I wonder how Brad Scott compares in terms of levels of interest? you don't see too much about clubs asking about him. 

He’d be a great asset as an assistant coach and mentor. I think it’s extremely likely we’ll see the majority of assistant coaches cleared out over the off season and Richardson joins us as part of a new setup.

Would love to get Michael Voss in as a midfield/stoppage coach. how good would it be to have Voss to team guys like Brayshaw and Oliver?

Pity we couldn’t get Ratten back a year or so ago. He knows the midfield so well. 

That said Richo would be a great asset. He beat us often as a coach. 

32 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I wonder how Brad Scott compares in terms of levels of interest? you don't see too much about clubs asking about him. 

I suspect the Scott brothers will job share at Geelong. 

With Macca going, I think Richardson is a lock. 

I’m onboard with Richo

Are we... shopping for next years potential caretaker coach? ?

Edited August 5, 20195 yr by John Demonic

 I like Richo, but he's not the right man for us - his style is similar to Goody's  in that he likes his side to get the ball forward, but he's not coming in to work guys over on the training track at his age. 

Goody is 42, he's not a kid on training wheels that needs a new mentor to replace Macca. He needs quality 'next generation' coaches to spark things up at training and reduce the generational impasse between players and coaches.

We have just appointed Darren Burgess as fitness coach, which should be a good get, but he is over 50 and won't be doing most of the drills with the players - he's now too old for that. But he has years of experience and should know how to get blokes fit and have smarts in injury and load management.

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

Ruck coach Greg Stafford turns 45 in a few weeks.

Stoppage coach Ben Mathews is a ripper but he's 42 next year.

Forwards coach Jade Rawlings is about to turn 42 and he still is happy to have blokes body him at training, but he's not a young pup.

Midfield development Justin Plapp is also 42.

Backline coach Troy Chaplin is just 33.

Development coach Max Rooke is 37.

Player development coach Matthew Egan is 36.

So to me the most important gets now are two or three young assistants who can be hands-on at training - Jordy should be No.1 choice and there are others who have just retired and can impart knowledge and instantly have respect of their young players.

To me a really good tackling coach is high on the list - the Billy Slater role has worked at Saints this year, is there another Storm ex-player who we can snare to impart technical wisdom? 

18 hours ago, chookrat said:

I suspect the Scott brothers will job share at Geelong. 

I think they already are, can't just be coincidence that Geelong have gone to [censored] after norf got rid of their Scott??

20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pity we couldn’t get Ratten back a year or so ago. He knows the midfield so well. 

That said Richo would be a great asset. He beat us often as a coach. 

Midfield is going alright though SW.  Outside quality run / finish missing and a few decent forwards needed also to compliment these areas.

Tracc & Gus more time in the mid field should boost the inside a tad also with Jones vacating.

21 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

He’d be a great asset as an assistant coach and mentor. I think it’s extremely likely we’ll see the majority of assistant coaches cleared out over the off season and Richardson joins us as part of a new setup.

I don't know enough about him: what would be his area of expertise?

We need a super-specialist "entry into forward 50" coach it seems.

20 hours ago, chookrat said:

I suspect the Scott brothers will job share at Geelong. 

LOL.  They could alternate. :-)

Edited August 6, 20195 yr by monoccular

15 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Midfield is going alright though SW.  Outside quality run / finish missing and a few decent forwards needed also to compliment these areas.

Tracc & Gus more time in the mid field should boost the inside a tad also with Jones vacating.

Midfield could be doing a lot better Rusty. 

Do not kid yourself

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Midfield could be doing a lot better Rusty. 

Do not kid yourself

They should be doing a lot better.

If you consider the amount of hit-outs and hit-outs to advantage Gawny gives us, then look at how many clearances we record per game, it becomes blatantly obvious that there is a huge disconnect between our ruck and mids.

If only Max could rove his own taps.................

2 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

They should be doing a lot better.

If you consider the amount of hit-outs and hit-outs to advantage Gawny gives us, then look at how many clearances we record per game, it becomes blatantly obvious that there is a huge disconnect between our ruck and mids.

If only Max could rove his own taps.................

he does a lot of the time

1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

They should be doing a lot better.

If you consider the amount of hit-outs and hit-outs to advantage Gawny gives us, then look at how many clearances we record per game, it becomes blatantly obvious that there is a huge disconnect between our ruck and mids.

If only Max could rove his own taps.................

Sweet Jeezus! Imagine if Max asked for a trade. Or worse, went down with another ACL..... ?

3 hours ago, Deespicable said:

 

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

 

What?????

A coach can be 70, morbidly obese and spend half their time on a mobility scooter and still do the job. 67 year old Bill Belichick or big Red Andy Reid wouldn't make good NFL assistants? Or 70 year old Greg Popovich in the NBA?

Daniel Cross is a physical freak capable of doing rehab group training. Any else who's retired has almost instantly lost the ability chase, pressure and reproduce drills at AFL players levels.

It's good to have fit and healthy younger coaches who can feed the balls in and demonstrate body positions but assistant coaches by and large aren't joining in drills. It's demonstrate the techniques then use the group of 40+ players to execute the drills. 

I'd be trying to bring a complimentary group in alongside Goodwin. A coach with experience like Richo makes sense, no one else on the MFC staff can give Goodwin advice on how to deal with senior coaching issues. And a young on the rise assistant with fresh ideas and ambition would make sense too. I'd take a close look at the non Victorian teams and look for a coach keen to come to Melbourne on the path to a senior job, that's Teague and Rhyce Shaw's pathway as well as another higher rated assistant in Justin Longmuir. 

28 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Midfield could be doing a lot better Rusty. 

Do not kid yourself

Delivery inside 50 certainly and defensive two way stuff for sure but a failed forward line hasn't helped with their ability to recover in time (aerobically & just covering the ground in time) SW.

Improve the latter (FL) in a big way, some outside class and speed.  May, Hore, Lever, Nev, hopefully less turnovers im key areas from Frosty and we just might have one of the top defences in 2020.

Maxy, Clarry, Harmes, Tracc, Salem a bit of Melk (part time) a raw but developing Dunkley.  Add two classy outsiders to assist Harmes.  Maybe one more classy inside/outside mid who can kick goals on the run and hit targets coming inside.

The two concerns for mine Viney & Gus.  Both can be your biggest asset one quarter then major turnover kings the next.

Edited August 6, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

5 hours ago, Deespicable said:

 I like Richo, but he's not the right man for us - his style is similar to Goody's  in that he likes his side to get the ball forward, but he's not coming in to work guys over on the training track at his age. 

Goody is 42, he's not a kid on training wheels that needs a new mentor to replace Macca. He needs quality 'next generation' coaches to spark things up at training and reduce the generational impasse between players and coaches.

We have just appointed Darren Burgess as fitness coach, which should be a good get, but he is over 50 and won't be doing most of the drills with the players - he's now too old for that. But he has years of experience and should know how to get blokes fit and have smarts in injury and load management.

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

Ruck coach Greg Stafford turns 45 in a few weeks.

Stoppage coach Ben Mathews is a ripper but he's 42 next year.

Forwards coach Jade Rawlings is about to turn 42 and he still is happy to have blokes body him at training, but he's not a young pup.

Midfield development Justin Plapp is also 42.

Backline coach Troy Chaplin is just 33.

Development coach Max Rooke is 37.

Player development coach Matthew Egan is 36.

So to me the most important gets now are two or three young assistants who can be hands-on at training - Jordy should be No.1 choice and there are others who have just retired and can impart knowledge and instantly have respect of their young players.

To me a really good tackling coach is high on the list - the Billy Slater role has worked at Saints this year, is there another Storm ex-player who we can snare to impart technical wisdom? 

Does anyone really care if our coaches are not near as fit and physically able as the players? They're not meant to be.

With age comes wisdom.

As the saying goes, youth is wasted on the young.

Edited August 6, 20195 yr by Moonshadow

I would take richo in a heartbeat.

4 hours ago, Deespicable said:

 I like Richo, but he's not the right man for us - his style is similar to Goody's  in that he likes his side to get the ball forward, but he's not coming in to work guys over on the training track at his age. 

Goody is 42, he's not a kid on training wheels that needs a new mentor to replace Macca. He needs quality 'next generation' coaches to spark things up at training and reduce the generational impasse between players and coaches.

We have just appointed Darren Burgess as fitness coach, which should be a good get, but he is over 50 and won't be doing most of the drills with the players - he's now too old for that. But he has years of experience and should know how to get blokes fit and have smarts in injury and load management.

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

Ruck coach Greg Stafford turns 45 in a few weeks.

Stoppage coach Ben Mathews is a ripper but he's 42 next year.

Forwards coach Jade Rawlings is about to turn 42 and he still is happy to have blokes body him at training, but he's not a young pup.

Midfield development Justin Plapp is also 42.

Backline coach Troy Chaplin is just 33.

Development coach Max Rooke is 37.

Player development coach Matthew Egan is 36.

So to me the most important gets now are two or three young assistants who can be hands-on at training - Jordy should be No.1 choice and there are others who have just retired and can impart knowledge and instantly have respect of their young players.

To me a really good tackling coach is high on the list - the Billy Slater role has worked at Saints this year, is there another Storm ex-player who we can snare to impart technical wisdom? 

Rubbish

Absolutely would go for Richo.

I reckon direct replacement for Macca. Head of Development.

23 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pity we couldn’t get Ratten back a year or so ago. He knows the midfield so well. 

That said Richo would be a great asset. He beat us often as a coach. 

Most of them did including Brad Scott

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

I would take richo in a heartbeat.

Ditto.