Hogan has been very, very average this year. Apart  from this last week, of course. Just in time for his game against us... 

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57 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Turn Tom Mac out for three weeks, send him North to dabble his toes in the Gold Coast surf and bring in Pruess.

For gods sakes Goodwin we need to see what he can offer.

Try to turn Stretch into a tagger. He is fit and can run well and his body, although not super strong, is just about fully mature. Otherwise he is lost to us. We need to make better players with the players we have got.

Send Jack Viney with Tom Mac North for some rest and toe time in the gold coast waters, he's giving us nothing and the whole team balance is out with Jack and Jones in the same team.

Send Spargo back to the VFL for the rest of the year and play him in the guts to try and toughen him up otherwise he is just going to become the whipping boy of Demonland which is really unfair for a young kid in his second year (some of you ought to be ashamed).

Bring in JKH for a good 3 weeks and then lets see what we've got. I think he could be okay. Lockhart as well.

Stop playing Fritsch back. He is a half forward flanker. Play him there Goodwin and be done with it, your ruining him.

Yes yes yes yes and yes is that enough?? You forgot about Jeffy?? Could have and should have kicked 4 last week!

16 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Hogan has been very, very average this year. Apart  from this last week, of course. Just in time for his game against us... 

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Hogan is a Rolls Royce, the only one we had for a long time. Also one of the few players who have left us I would love to see succeed.

I watched some of the Freo game yesterday. For three quarters (or the bits that I saw) they couldn't hit a target by hand or foot. It was laughable (yet sadly familiar). They put it together in the last quarter and played very well. Hogan was same old with the body language. I'd never noticed before, but he was useless at 'playing on at all costs.' Stopped every time he marked the pill, with or without options and Freo kept losing the run of play. According to the commentators, he had a very good game, which is entirely possible, as I didn't see the whole thing but he looked to be still finding his feet. 

I wish him all the best but would be happy if he stinks this weekend.

3 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Hogan is a Rolls Royce, the only one we had for a long time. Also one of the few players who have left us I would love to see succeed.

Yup, agreed.    He had a slow start to the season but was great last week.

I love his game,  and wish we still had him.  Hopefully he comes back in a couple of years  (a man can dream).

4 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

When reality bites you have to accept it.You were caught out.

Not at all. If you believe we are in better shape than we were with Hogan, then you are the one deluded. This was not a got you moment. Where the marks were taken and the results from them are relevant. Hogan has been way more productive. 

Hard to imagine dropping jeffy, one of our leading goal scorers. On his current scoring output, compared to the teams overall, he cannot be dropped. 

‘It’s time to rest tmac though. Pruess must be played. 

‘Agree with Fritsch going  to half forward. We are killing his development playing him out of his position for this long. 

I have no idea what selections we’ll witness this week. 

Edited June 17, 20196 yr by Smokey

5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

 

When was the last time Freo won at the MCG?

2 weeks ago against Collingwood and they rolled us at the G in 2017 after we got out to a 6 goal lead from memory, Cam Mcarthy kicked a late one for them

Frost on Hogan? Or May?

In: Preuss, ANB,

Out: Spargo, T Mac, 

IN : Lockhart, Dunkley, Preuss

OUT: Spargo, Wagner, TMAC

5 hours ago, Deehumanizing said:

If you believe we are in better shape than we were with Hogan, then you are the one deluded

Red herring in regards to the discussion at hand.

You made specific - and ridiculous  - claims about the number of marks the forwards were taking. You were wrong first time, and doubled down when you were called on it, even when presented with the facts.

Serious confirmation bias BS. Pathetic.

How on earth do the bookies have us as favourites? Bizarre.

5 hours ago, P-man said:

How on earth do the bookies have us as favourites? Bizarre.

Wondering if the punters will jump on Freo as the week goes on. We have won the same amount of games as them at the G this year.

Freo is a strong line up but there is 4 players we need to stop.  Fyfe Mundy Walters Hogan.  

I think Walters is the most dangerous with Jetta being out.  Perhaps try Lockhart or Hibberd on him.  Walters is a very good mark for a small forward. 

ins Lockhart TSmith 

outs jWagner Spargo 

Hannan stays in ahead of ANB

TMCD given his 5th last chance!! Hopefully the Bye has refreshed him. 

13 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Hogan is a Rolls Royce, the only one we had for a long time. Also one of the few players who have left us I would love to see succeed.

This one?

8 hours ago, bing181 said:

Red herring in regards to the discussion at hand.

You made specific - and ridiculous  - claims about the number of marks the forwards were taking. You were wrong first time, and doubled down when you were called on it, even when presented with the facts.

Serious confirmation bias BS. Pathetic.

I was going to reply to his above post but couldn't be bothered he obviously can't remember what he posts so I didn't want to embarrass the poor soul.

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

I was going to reply to his above post but couldn't be bothered he obviously can't remember what he posts so I didn't want to embarrass the poor soul.

I am not embarrassed by the poor judgment of others. The fact is our recruiting has been a failure and no amount of nitpicking will change that. Do you have a point to make? 

 

14 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

I am not embarrassed by the poor judgment of others. The fact is our recruiting has been a failure and no amount of nitpicking will change that. Do you have a point to make? 

 

Go back to your original post and read what you said.

17 hours ago, deespicable me said:

We need to make better players with the players we have got.

One might think that for the FD, this normal expectation is too much to ask. For the fans, members and supporters, it seems, in reality, to have been totally overlooked.

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Freo is a strong line up but there is 4 players we need to stop.  Fyfe Mundy Walters Hogan.  

I think Walters is the most dangerous with Jetta being out.  Perhaps try Lockhart or Hibberd on him.  Walters is a very good mark for a small forward. 

ins Lockhart TSmith 

outs jWagner Spargo 

Hannan stays in ahead of ANB

TMCD given his 5th last chance!! Hopefully the Bye has refreshed him. 

A little creativity and we can rest TMac against Fremantle Dockers, so that at least his recovery (from whatever ails him) and performance readiness are addressed.

4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Freo is a strong line up but there is 4 players we need to stop.  Fyfe Mundy Walters Hogan.  

I think Walters is the most dangerous with Jetta being out.  Perhaps try Lockhart or Hibberd on him.  Walters is a very good mark for a small forward. 

ins Lockhart TSmith 

outs jWagner Spargo 

Hannan stays in ahead of ANB

TMCD given his 5th last chance!! Hopefully the Bye has refreshed him. 

No Preuss?

Can't believe we are favourites.

In saying that, we are definitely a chance. Harmes to hard tag Fyfe, Hibberd on Walters. Gawn should be able to massacre Darcy, despite how well he played last week against Ryder and Lycett. 

46 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

No Preuss?

No, they'll bring him in for the last game of the year and he'll no doubt kick 6 just to make a mockery of our  match committee,

IN - Lockhart, T Smith

OUT - Wagner, Garlett or Spargo.

T Mac one last last chance. If the bye hasn't freshened him up physically and mentally he may have to have an indefinite spell in the 2's.

 

can't see t mac being dropped

interesting to see who mans up on hogan as he plays mostly up the ground and working back, which doesn't suit may as a 'last man back' approach