Hellofatime 84 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I know we are only playing with 14 players on the ground each week and it's a credit to those 14 to get the ball in so often, but, who are our forwards coaches because we don't seem to have any plan, system or confidence when it's in the 50 arc! Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Why worry about the forwards? The biggest problem is the midfield who over handball, stuff around with it then bomb it in long to anywhere in the f50, anywhere would do. Quote
deebug 1,754 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said: Why worry about the forwards? The biggest problem is the midfield who over handball, stuff around with it then bomb it in long to anywhere in the f50, anywhere would do. 100% agree. If we don't fix this in the off season it will be time for the rebuild drums again. Quote
Damo 3,466 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 You would think Nick Reiwoldt or Wayne Carey would be available(payable) to come down and talk forward craft to forwards and mids. Quote
Damo 3,466 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, Queanbeyan Demon said: here they are Isnt that Preuss 2nd from the right on the top row? 2 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,025 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Damo said: Isnt that Preuss 2nd from the right on the top row? recon you're right Damo. recon i spotted nat jones in there as well. Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 H.R. Pufnstuf, Kling, Klang, Fleagle, Bingo, Drooper and Snork. 2 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,681 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 There's clearly no connection between the forwards and mids. 50/50 blame. The only thing I can say to defend the coaches is that the forwards are trained to focus so much on defensive work - partially because the midfield and backline have been so poor defensively to start the year - that they have lost a lot of attacking focus. The backline and midfield are defending far better and the forwards are going ok in that regard. The focus can shift back on to attacking play. Also look at the personnel: Hannan's 3rd game this year - rusty as heck. Garlett - cooked Spargo - limited Tommy Mc - awful Hunt, Petracca, Weid ok. Judging a coach largely requires talent, which means a healthy and confident Tommy Mc or a different tall target plus some better smalls. Quote
Salems Lot 2,692 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Anyone who knows my posts would know that I hate potting players but I seriously thing TMac needs a spell in the 2s. A man without a plan. Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,773 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said: Why worry about the forwards? The biggest problem is the midfield who over handball, stuff around with it then bomb it in long to anywhere in the f50, anywhere would do. yep... the vaunted midfield is not playing well. Perhaps ban Oliver from hand balling for an occasional quarter or two Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 More to the point 7 goals 15 AN ABSOLUTE INDICTMENT ON THE CLUB, COACHES AND PLAYERS who just cannot kick a friggen goal. Sheeeeit it aint that hard from set shots!! It really isn't! This after last weeks debacle. we are very SLOW Learners.! 1 Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Damo said: You would think Nick Reiwoldt or Wayne Carey would be available(payable) to come down and talk forward craft to forwards and mids. Oh Yeah, give me Nick "Freddie Mercury" Reiwoldt anyday Kicked CRUNCH goals and was a real "Dead eye [censored]" Quote
Pipefitter 2,234 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Poorly coached and bereft of talent. Down there with Gold Coast as the worst forward line in the league. At least they have Sexton. Quote
bing181 9,473 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 22 shots on goal should be enough to get the job done, but almost none of them are renowned for their kicking prowess. Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, picket fence said: Oh Yeah, give me Nick "Freddie Mercury" Reiwoldt anyday Kicked CRUNCH goals and was a real "Dead eye [censored]" Not in his early years he didn't, 'PF'. He was as bad as 'Richo'. Riewoldt fixed his kicking around the time he played predominantly wing. Half way thru his career, he got much better. Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 9 hours ago, fired up said: Blind Freddie Quote
Matsuo Basho 1,053 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Max Rooke Troy Chaplin Ben Matthews Greg Stafford Justin Plapp Tell me I'm wrong but that list of former players does not scream "skill, vision and finesse" to me. ALL OF THEM were either backmen or good honest battlers. Maybe some assistant coaches who were renowned for their skills and vision might impart some teachings about skills and vision to our players? Just a thought. *Mods - The forward line coach thread should be subsumed into this broader one. Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 In other sports around the world (notably the NFL & NBA) clubs often do a cleanout of the assistants whilst at the same time keeping the head coach. Some responsibilities might be taken from the head coach as a matter of course too. And you don't want to necessarily wait until the proverbial hits the fan before making those changes. Rebuilding of the list to varying degrees are often needed too. We have to do something and only a thorough review will reveal what we need to do. Those doing the review need to be detached or semi-detached from those who they are reviewing. 2 Quote
scarlett 247 Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Hellofatime said: I know we are only playing with 14 players on the ground each week and it's a credit to those 14 to get the ball in so often, but, who are our forwards coaches because we don't seem to have any plan, system or confidence when it's in the 50 arc! Interesting watching casey with more afl players available this week had much more space in the fwd50 and a clear change in plan and execution. Hopefully its the start of change. Quote
ManDee 7,395 Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) If we insist on bombing it in we need a man mountain. Rest Tommy Mac FFS give Preuss a few games in a row. This years average stats. Braydon Preuss Name Tom McDonald Melbourne Demons Team Melbourne Demons Ruck Position Forward 10 Career Games 158 Surfers Paradise Origin North Ballarat June 16, 1995 Date of Birth September 18, 1992 23yr 11mth Age 26yr 8mth 206cm Height 194cm 109kg Weight 100kg 2014 Rookie Draft Last Drafted In 2010 National Draft Round 1, Pick #15 Last Draft Position Round 3, Pick #53 North Melbourne Kangaroos Last Drafted By Melbourne Demons 2019 Stats for Season 2019 2 Games 12 10.0 Kicks 7.4 3.0 Handballs 4.5 13.0 Disposals 11.9 2.0 Marks 3.6 2.0 Goals 0.7 0 Behinds 0.8 1.0 Tackles 1.6 14.5 Hitouts 1.3 3.0 Inside 50s 2.2 0 Goal Assists 0.4 1.0 Frees For 0.8 0.5 Frees Against 0.8 9.0 Contested Possessions 5.8 Edited June 11, 2019 by ManDee Quote
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