On 08/07/2019 at 05:40, picket fence said:

Ah no it wouldn"t and you don't just "Remove" the Meniscus you actually repair it generally putting in some stitches , which take time to fuse the fibres together. You would not have seen him before next season, even if a Grand Final was at stake!!

I know about meniscus injury I have had one. I think you missed my point. I was suggesting that if the injury was only minor you might attempt to get him back but minor or not these is no reason to as we wont go beyond the end of August.

  On 08/07/2019 at 04:20, whatwhatsaywhat said:

I can see us finishing second last this year; with the rate of injury that we’re having at the moment, we’ll be lucky to have 22 players by round 23!

Carltank should be able to beat GC17 in coming weeks, and then they’ll be one fluke win behind us, which would put us equal on points but (probably) behind them on percentage

2019...what a year.......

Yep reckon we will finish second last behind Carltank unfortunately. GC also asking for a R1 priority pick giving them the top 2 picks in the draft too. The top 2 supposedly the standouts, then daylight. Shouldn't happen but the AFL are corrupt.

Relieved Tmac didn't do an ACL.

Edited July 8, 20195 yr by TheoX

  On 08/07/2019 at 03:01, Clint Bizkit said:

I'm surprised we didn't send him back out to be honest.

Spot on Clint.  

  On 08/07/2019 at 06:28, TheoX said:

Yep reckon we will finish second last. GC also asking for a R1 priority pick giving them the top 2 picks in the draft too. The top 2 supposedly the standouts, then daylight. Shouldn't happen but the AFL are corrupt.

Relieved Tmac didn't do an ACL.

The second pick if given will come at the end of round 1... the other teams have made it clear they won't allow the multiple dips at the pointy end

  On 08/07/2019 at 00:37, Nasher said:

Yup. Do we know the recovery time for TMac? Obviously no more matches this year, but how will his pre-season be impacted?

Meniscal tear should nowadays ordinarily be a few Meeks to a month but MFCSS means it could be anything.  

Regardless he should be handled with kid gloves and why should any slight risk be taken in this total disaster of a season?

The time off should enable him to fully recover from whatever held him back until the past few weeks.  

And I agree some goal kicking set shot routines should be part of his later rehab. 

Should give Preuss an opportunity to work with Max as an alternating forward.  

Or maybe as some have suggested try Oscar as a forward?

  On 08/07/2019 at 06:53, monoccular said:

Meniscal tear should nowadays ordinarily be a few Meeks to a month but MFCSS means it could be anything.  

Regardless he should be handled with kid gloves and why should any slight risk be taken in this total disaster of a season?

The time off should enable him to fully recover from whatever held him back until the past few weeks.  

And I agree some goal kicking set shot routines should be part of his later rehab. 

Should give Preuss an opportunity to work with Max as an alternating forward.  

Or maybe as some have suggested try Oscar as a forward?

Ah the old McDonald for McDonald switcheroo. It's not the worst thing I've heard, and the way things are going with injuries we might not have much choice but to bring O back.

I'm not a fan of his, but you never know, this might be the second McDonald transformation. At the very least his failed attempts up forward won't cost us any goals. At least directly anyway.

  On 08/07/2019 at 06:53, monoccular said:

Meniscal tear should nowadays ordinarily be a few Meeks to a month but MFCSS means it could be anything.  

Regardless he should be handled with kid gloves and why should any slight risk be taken in this total disaster of a season?

The time off should enable him to fully recover from whatever held him back until the past few weeks.  

And I agree some goal kicking set shot routines should be part of his later rehab. 

Should give Preuss an opportunity to work with Max as an alternating forward.  

Or maybe as some have suggested try Oscar as a forward?

We've got a season to play, pump it full of the good stuff and get him back out there. Two weeks off max. 

  On 08/07/2019 at 06:32, Diamond_Jim said:

The second pick if given will come at the end of round 1... the other teams have made it clear they won't allow the multiple dips at the pointy end

If the AFL decides to grant GC's request, the other teams' opinion counts for SFA. 

  On 08/07/2019 at 09:39, TheoX said:

If the AFL decides to grant GC's request, the other teams' opinion counts for SFA. 

they won't grant it because of the view of the other teams... they went through this multiple times over the last few years and the AFL's position on where any priority pick is located is now clear and its not at number 1 or 2.

  On 08/07/2019 at 09:44, Diamond_Jim said:

they won't grant it because of the view of the other teams... they went through this multiple times over the last few years and the AFL's position on where any priority pick is located is now clear and its not at number 1 or 2.

Diamond Jim - you forget it s the A FL, whose modus operandi is making decisions on the run.

I now have inside info on our foot injury crisis

 

  On 08/07/2019 at 04:20, whatwhatsaywhat said:

I can see us finishing second last this year; with the rate of injury that we’re having at the moment, we’ll be lucky to have 22 players by round 23!

Carltank should be able to beat GC17 in coming weeks, and then they’ll be one fluke win behind us, which would put us equal on points but (probably) behind them on percentage

2019...what a year.......

Well im wondering what happens when we have less than 22 fit players? Can we get a special dispensation from the AFL not to play anymore games this year and go to Bali?

......are we allowed top up players, or is that just an Essendon thing?

  On 08/07/2019 at 06:53, monoccular said:

Meniscal tear should nowadays ordinarily be a few Meeks to a month but MFCSS means it could be anything.  

Regardless he should be handled with kid gloves and why should any slight risk be taken in this total disaster of a season?

The time off should enable him to fully recover from whatever held him back until the past few weeks.  

And I agree some goal kicking set shot routines should be part of his later rehab. 

Should give Preuss an opportunity to work with Max as an alternating forward.  

Or maybe as some have suggested try Oscar as a forward?

Sheeeeit Oscar as Forward??? Facepalm... lets get some perspective...

He is hardly hardly of standard! Sheesh

 

I prefer the old dressing gowns. A seriously good captain and coach.

  On 10/07/2019 at 00:34, ManDee said:

I prefer the old dressing gowns. A seriously good captain and coach.

Perhaps appropriately, RDB looks like he's asleep in his dressing gown.

  On 10/07/2019 at 00:34, ManDee said:

I prefer the old dressing gowns. A seriously good captain and coach.

looks like rdb has overdosed and norm hasn't noticed

  On 09/07/2019 at 08:34, Demonland said:

 

Tim Smith not on the injured list but reported as running with the rehab group at training yesterday.

Lever and Jetta on the injured list and noted as available but they both played at VFL level last week so why are they even listed.

Such wonderful communication...

Stretch's foot injury is worrying. Combined with our other four perennially injured players I cannot see how he can be retained if there is any doubt whatsoever over his recovery. (It's not the first time with a foot injury.).

 

Injury List: Round 17

Jake Lever (knee) – available
Neville Jetta (knee) – available
Max Gawn (ankle) – test
Harry Petty (concussion) – test
Tim Smith (something) - FMW
Marty Hore (collarbone) – 2-4 weeks
Billy Stretch (foot) – 3-4 weeks
Jake Melksham (foot) – 4-5 weeks
Tom Sparrow (knee) – 4-5 weeks
Tom McDonald (knee) – TBC 
Kade Kolodjashnij (head) – TBC
Aaron vandenBerg (foot) – TBC
Jeff Garlett (shoulder) – Season 
Joel Smith (groin) – Season
Aaron Nietschke (knee) – Season
Guy Walker (shoulder) – Indefinite
  

FMW - forgotten man of the week

  On 10/07/2019 at 06:30, Chelly said:

Tim Smith (something) - FMW

 Tim Smith     Calf      TBC

Not sure we should put Nev Jetta back in this week. Needs more match condition. I think a full game at Casey this week then off to the NT.  

I wonder if ever any club has actually managed to go an entire season with an average of 1/3rd of their list injured?

Could be in record-breaking territory.

Remembering that we had already passed the average total missed games for a season before the halfway point.

  On 11/07/2019 at 08:11, Little Goffy said:

I wonder if ever any club has actually managed to go an entire season with an average of 1/3rd of their list injured?

Could be in record-breaking territory.

Remembering that we had already passed the average total missed games for a season before the halfway point.

And factor in also that a significant number were also under-prepared at the beginning of the season due to late starts to pre-season. I wonder how many players had essentially a full pre-season and a year uninterrupted by injury? It wouldn't be too many. 

  On 11/07/2019 at 08:11, Little Goffy said:

I wonder if ever any club has actually managed to go an entire season with an average of 1/3rd of their list injured?

Could be in record-breaking territory.

Remembering that we had already passed the average total missed games for a season before the halfway point.

And it's not just to t ial numbers of injured players that is so remarkable. It is how many of our nominal best 22 we have out.

For much of the season in any given game we have had close to half of our best 22 out. Even with jetts and lever back this  week we still have a third out (melk, vdb, tmac, Joel Smith, kk, jeffy, hore are best 22 and stretch is on the bubble).

I have said numerous times but it bears repeating. No club has had a run of best 22 players out with injury. Not even close. Nor did any club have anywhere near the number of post season surgeries. Not even close.

These two issues are facts. Critics of our game plan and coaching might prove to be correct but it is simply not possible to make an accurate assessment of either with what has happened to us. Supposition yes. Definitive no.

Look at how pies have gone when they lose their best  forward.  One player our and suddenly they can't convert inside 50.

  On 10/07/2019 at 06:30, Chelly said:

Injury List: Round 17

Jake Lever (knee) – available
Neville Jetta (knee) – available
Max Gawn (ankle) – test
Harry Petty (concussion) – test
Tim Smith (something) - FMW
Marty Hore (collarbone) – 2-4 weeks
Billy Stretch (foot) – 3-4 weeks
Jake Melksham (foot) – 4-5 weeks
Tom Sparrow (knee) – 4-5 weeks
Tom McDonald (knee) – TBC 
Kade Kolodjashnij (head) – TBC
Aaron vandenBerg (foot) – TBC
Jeff Garlett (shoulder) – Season 
Joel Smith (groin) – Season
Aaron Nietschke (knee) – Season
Guy Walker (shoulder) – Indefinite
  

FMW - forgotten man of the week

Melksham getting close to missing the rest of the season.

I wonder how many clubs have lost 4 players for an entire season, before it even started and then several others who end up missing most of the season after playing a game or two?