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Lol this is amateur hour by Bell.

Tries to leak a supposed reason for him cancelling the deal to cover his [censored].

Where he has gone wrong is it doesn’t explain why Freo made an offer to Demons (Pick 11), when they supposedly hadn’t even agreed on a deal with Hogan yet.

Wtf would they have done if we had accepted? 

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    23 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

    It’s like a few builder mates I have, they get asked to quote for a job and don’t really want to do the job for different reason’s. So they will over quite by 30% or more on the usual rate, if the client says yes... happy days but not a job they were chasing. 

    Yep,im in the building industry & its 100% what happens.Go for a high price,test the customer (market/club)& if they dont budge well you're no worse off.If they take the bait then you're happy enough to do the work (change clubs)

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    3 minutes ago, Pates said:

    “A Hogan trade is not dead in the water, but it appears Melbourne will have to buckle first”

    I would suggest that first Freo have to buckle with regard to the Neale deal so that they can get pick 5. if they do fold on that then it would be a significant backdown by them and I could see Bell going aggressively at the hogan deal to get his feathered cap.

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    6 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

    I read it as though Freo were not prepared to cough up that much money, that many years and those high picks. And therefore Freo called the negotiations off. And that they would offer Hogan the 8x8, but not give up the draft picks. 

    I could very well be wrong, the article was ambiguous. Having thought about it more, it is a poorly written article, but that doesn't mean there is not a lot of truth in it. 

    I have no idea about the truth of it, just that it is a terrible piece of so called journalism and has no view other than what Freo say is behind their ‘due dilligence’ comments. It is also logically inconsistent.

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    25 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    The trade process has built into it a mediation phase for when clubs cannot agree on a trade.  I think It is essential to have the mediation process so that difficult trades get done and so that the current Freo position causing a log jam for about 6 players is cleared.

    IIR the last time it was used was the Ryder trade to Port.

    But in the end Hogan,Beams,Neale,Kelly are all contracted,through their own choice when they last signed,so why should the AFL be able to force clubs into helping them?

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    I don’t know if I believe the story that negotiations fell through due to the 8 years/$8mil request. I’d imagine the contract length and amount would be agreed upon by a player’s manager and the club chasing the player prior to the two clubs negotiating the trade. 

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    10 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

    I read it as though Freo were not prepared to cough up that much money, that many years and those high picks. And therefore Freo called the negotiations off. And that they would offer Hogan the 8x8, but not give up the draft picks. 

    I could very well be wrong, the article was ambiguous. Having thought about it more, it is a poorly written article, but that doesn't mean there is not a lot of truth in it. 

    Isn't this the problem though? What are they thinking? We'll give a bloke 8 mil over 8 years but not pay the commensurate trade value? Hogan isn't a free agent, they have to give up something.

    I'm not saying he's worth 2 early first rounders, but he's worth more than 11 and 23, and much closer to 5, 23 and 30. 

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    1 minute ago, Good Lord George said:

    Isn't this the problem though? What are they thinking? We'll give a bloke 8 mil over 8 years but not pay the commensurate trade value? Hogan isn't a free agent, they have to give up something.

    I'm not saying he's worth 2 early first rounders, but he's worth more than 11 and 23, and much closer to 5, 23 and 30. 

    Yeah for sure, but maybe they think cumulative cost for Hogan Picks/Price/Years is too much. Maybe if Hogan's management agreed to 5 x 5 they would be happy to give 5, 23 and 30. But who knows

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    15 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

    I read it as though Freo were not prepared to cough up that much money, that many years and those high picks. And therefore Freo called the negotiations off. And that they would offer Hogan the 8x8, but not give up the draft picks. 

    I could very well be wrong, the article was ambiguous. Having thought about it more, it is a poorly written article, but that doesn't mean there is not a lot of truth in it. 

    I think they said on the Fox programme that Hogan is earning that much next year. That makes an 8x8 offer unacceptable.

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    Just now, Freddy Fuschia said:

    I think they said on the Fox programme that Hogan is earning that much next year. That makes an 8x8 offer unacceptable.

    Imagine the human pyramid, climbing all over each other to get a 8 x 8 contract.

     

    $64 million would attract most players I'd reckon.

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    10 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I don’t know if I believe the story that negotiations fell through due to the 8 years/$8mil request. I’d imagine the contract length and amount would be agreed upon by a player’s manager and the club chasing the player prior to the two clubs negotiating the trade. 

    Peter bell has proven he’s in over his head but imagine entering trade negotiations without knowing the kind of contract the player would be after. And the. Being surprised when the same star player was deemed worthy of two first rounders by the current club. I’m calling BS 

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    23 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

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    The whole article is just a PR statement from Freo. I am not saying that the journalist is biased, just lazy and more like a PR agent than a journo 

    Very common, even outside footy journalism.  I've written quite a few 'articles' for journos to regurgitate.

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    Peter Bell is trying to wrangle a tea and biscuits deal for someone they are trying to offer 8 year contract on.  Tell him it’s 2x first rounders (pick 5 and Freo 2019 1st pick if that’s the offer)

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    If Hogan doesn't go this year I would think he won't go there (to freo) for quite a while. He has ummed and ahhhhed about moving home and really when you look at it I think he thought he might get on a good contract and be on easy street for the rest of his career.

    I reckon this is a good thing, He might just dust himself off and having come so close to the crap of off-season moves re-focus and get stuck in.

    If this deal doesn't go through (and I hope it doesn't) we may see clear air with Jesse, not the "will he won't he" scenario some posters are afraid of.

    Hold out, hold out.

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    Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

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    3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    This is a job for International Rescue

    Thunderbird 2 i reckon. 

    TB3

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    27 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

    Not all of us felt Bell was bluffing.

    Fire up the Brucey avatar, Drags. It's coming home. ;)

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    2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

    Belly is winging his way to town in order to get some feathers in his cap? 

    Go figure?

     

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    2 minutes ago, Deeman said:

    Belly is winging his way to town in order to get some feathers in his cap? 

    Go figure?

     

    Spray him with baygon, the cockroach 

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    1 minute ago, chook fowler said:

    Spray him with baygon, the cockroach 

    Spray him with Bacon ....bacon makes everything better ;)

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    4 minutes ago, Deeman said:

    Belly is winging his way to town in order to get some feathers in his cap? 

    Go figure?

     

    alert border control

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