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35 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

The reason Freo are playing hardball is because they know they can't easily get Lobb and Hogan without giving up everything in the first round. GWS will want one of their first few picks as well, we will obviously want two.

There seems to be a concerted effort in the media to create the impression Hogan is only worth one first rounder. Wonder why!

Bluff. Bluff. Bluff.

How do you play hardball when you just finished 14th on the ladder and are trying to poach a contracted key forward from the club that finished 4th?

That math don’t work!

Edited by EnterTheDragon

 
1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

crack a beer, have a cone followed by a mud cake and then decide where he wants to be. 

Well, guess what? We are all doing similar things - except that we are also awaiting very important news in a state of high anxiety that has lasted for at least two weeks, now - this combination has put us in the queue for the cardiac ward -  that's surely not where Jesse wishes to be so why does he commit us to this cardiac fibrillation by holding back?

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

So many opinions being written forcibly on here as fact....

Let's stick to your expert subject.  Would Norm Smith trade Hogan?

 
2 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

The reason Freo are playing hardball is because they know they can't easily get Lobb and Hogan without giving up everything in the first round. GWS will want one of their first few picks as well, we will obviously want two.

There seems to be a concerted effort in the media to create the impression Hogan is only worth one first rounder. Wonder why!

What the media thinks Hogan is worth should be of no consequence to us. If Hogan wants to go to Fremantle we set a not negotiable price. If it's not met he stays with us.

It will be interesting to see what Fremantle demand and get in return for Lachie Neale.

It would seem that Geelong have taken a firm line with Kelly. I hate Geelong but I do admire their recruiting strategies and success with recruiting. We need to take a leaf out of their book. We must not be pushovers.

6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Let's stick to your expert subject.  Would Norm Smith trade Hogan?

Ignore...


41 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I was all for trying him along the HB during this season. To see if he had the acumen for it as much as curtailing the hanging up he was experiencing from the better teams' defenders.

But as a new full time job...I'm a little more circumspect and have my reservations. 

Defenders have got to be on all day. Hogan can drop his shoulders at times and lose the tempo. That's a disaster for a backline.

For a defensive role I'm more inclined to get a proven defender which is exactly the stance of the club btw.

But then again, defenders have the higher ratio of winning or 'nullifying' contests than forwards have of winning them. Might be the kind of role that suits his temperament.

Edited by johndemonic

I'm sitting here trying to sort out some very complex tax stuff by the deadline that ATO have put on me, as well as keeping a close eye on the trade moves affecting our Club.  I'm not sure which is the more frustrating (or important for that matter!).

Damn. I’m starting to get my hopes up that he will stay and sign an extension. Was hoping this wouldn’t happen. 

 

 
26 minutes ago, corowa said:

What the media thinks Hogan is worth should be of no consequence to us. If Hogan wants to go to Fremantle we set a not negotiable price. If it's not met he stays with us.

Agree that media opinions are irrelevant but in truth everything’s negotiable. This is business!

28 minutes ago, corowa said:

What the media thinks Hogan is worth should be of no consequence to us. If Hogan wants to go to Fremantle we set a not negotiable price. If it's not met he stays with us.

It will be interesting to see what Fremantle demand and get in return for Lachie Neale.

It would seem that Geelong have taken a firm line with Kelly. I hate Geelong but I do admire their recruiting strategies and success with recruiting. We need to take a leaf out of their book. We must not be pushovers.

Of course they have . He's contracted to them for a relative pittance and was second or thereabouts in their B&F.


32 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Let's stick to your expert subject.  Would Norm Smith trade Hogan?

Would Norm Smith give Hogan 4 coaches votes

31 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Let's stick to your expert subject.  Would Norm Smith trade Hogan?

Norm Smith would would give straight and say your staying lad?

28 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

But then again, defenders have the higher ratio of winning or 'nullifying' contests than forwards have of winning them. Might be the kind of role that suits his temperament.

There is some excitement felt in this idea. He goes the clearance, punch, rebound, steering ... exhausting opposition forwards with his aerobics ... , and can deliver passes reasonably well. Certainly adds the concept of  'impregnable' to the backs - and he can do an amount of midfield run-on for good effect at the same time. 

5 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Would Norm Smith give Hogan 4 coaches votes

He was happy to Let Ron go. And Big Bob Johnson just seemed to walk out of the club when we needed him . There he was, starring for East Fremantle and Oakleigh in the 60s when we needed him.


47 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

The reason Freo are playing hardball is because they know they can't easily get Lobb and Hogan without giving up everything in the first round. GWS will want one of their first few picks as well, we will obviously want two.

There seems to be a concerted effort in the media to create the impression Hogan is only worth one first rounder. Wonder why!

.... Hardball?  

Perhaps I am being naive but Hogan hasn't said anything to the MFC, so neither club knows his intentions. Freo don't look like they are budging on Neale leaving.... which limits what they have to play with too!

I don't think Freo has indicated anything about what they plan on offering for Hogan, it's purely media speculation and rubbish out of mouths of people like Sam Maclure that has driven this at this point. 

We’ve put forward what we think will get the deal done.

Josh Mahoney just said this.

Its definitely happening 

1 hour ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Agreed that our defence hasn't been our strong suit. But our game style does contribute to conceding more goals, we are a team that backs ourselves in a shootout. 

But i guess i am very optimistic that we can sure up our defence through the growth of our current list.

Collingwood, West Coast did nothing last trade period, and got exceptional growth from the players they had on their list. Similarly Richmond saw huge improvements from the likes of Grimes, Astbury, Vlastain etc 2 years ago

The footy dept would seem to disagree, They got in Lever and now they want to get in May and KK. They aren't as confident as you clearly.


5 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The footy dept would seem to disagree, They got in Lever and now they want to get in May and KK. They aren't as confident as you clearly.

Lever is a key part of my optimism... thought that would have been blatantly obvious.

KK is a great addition, also not a key position player. He will be replacing lewis, or potentially going onto a wing/defence rotation with salam. 

May is also a great addition, but just because we are trying to get a player in doesn't mean we cannot succeed without said player. I personally think making a prelim with a super young list, without our best defender, is cause for optimism. 

Edited by Lord Neville X Flash

4 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Lever is a key part of my optimism... thought that would have been blatantly obvious.

KK is a great addition, also not a key position player. He will be replacing lewis, or potentially going onto a wing/defence rotation with salam. 

May is also a great addition, but just because we are trying to get a player in doesn't mean we cannot succeed without said player. I personally think making a prelim with a super young list, without our best defender, is cause for optimism. 

I suspect we will want to use him as a wingman & take Tysons spot. 

1 minute ago, TRIGON said:

When you say that May will be a good rotation, do you mean rotating with O Mac,  during the periods that’s Stephen’s suspended?

If you are replying to me, you may want to read my comment again. 

 
25 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

We’ve put forward what we think will get the deal done.

Josh Mahoney just said this.

Its definitely happening 

Which deal Jesse or May?


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