MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 19

[dl4e 5,593]

One of the problems with this game is that it is an elimination final for Adelaide.We were robbed there against Port so lets hope the umps don't favour them too much.

[dees189227 10,808]

So do we put Frost on Walker or do we give Oscar a shot first? also you have there other talls Jenkins and Lynch as well to stop. Maxy also needs a big game against Jacobs. 

[Young Blood 2,024]

17 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

So do we put Frost on Walker or do we give Oscar a shot first? also you have there other talls Jenkins and Lynch as well to stop. Maxy also needs a big game against Jacobs. 

Frost on Walker to start as he works further up the ground which works if Frost wins the ball as a better rebounding back.

Oscar to Jenkins who usually plays as the deepest forward.

I would say they'll rotate players against Lynch. Look for Bernie and Smith to both spend time on him.

[loges 6,097]

Is anyone else concerned about our for & against scoreline being impacted by incorrect umpiring decisions. It seems to be a continuing trend in our close games. Just hope we're due a bit more luck in the coming weeks. Won't hold my breath though.

[Clintosaurus 6,473]

2 minutes ago, loges said:

Is anyone else concerned about our for & against scoreline being impacted by incorrect umpiring decisions. It seems to be a continuing trend in our close games. Just hope we're due a bit more luck in the coming weeks. Won't hold my breath though.

Probably need to see Gil's Final 8 list to know the answer to that. If we are in it, then maybe the luck is about to come our way, if not, the reaming continues.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,246]

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

One of the problems with this game is that it is an elimination final for Adelaide.We were robbed there against Port so lets hope the umps don't favour them too much.

Sooner rather than later it's all going to all come crushing down on Adelaide if they're playing elimination finals every week to the rest of the year.

Same as Essendon.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,246]

7 minutes ago, loges said:

Is anyone else concerned about our for & against scoreline being impacted by incorrect umpiring decisions. It seems to be a continuing trend in our close games. Just hope we're due a bit more luck in the coming weeks. Won't hold my breath though.

Hopefully this time around the umpires can accurately measure a 50 metre penalty.

Still having nightmares about the 70 metre penalty and goal that was awarded to Westhoff in the last qtr of round 14.

[dl4e 5,593]

12 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Hopefully this time around the umpires can accurately measure a 50 metre penalty.

Still having nightmares about the 70 metre penalty and goal that was awarded to Westhoff in the last qtr of round 14.

Or the free kick against Melksham in the 2nd quarter for what I will never know. The free or mark to whingegard in the second and the one that wasn't paid to Brayshaw. Oh and don't forget about melksham having his pulled off in front of goals in the last quarter which of course wasn't paid.

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

So do we put Frost on Walker or do we give Oscar a shot first? also you have there other talls Jenkins and Lynch as well to stop. Maxy also needs a big game against Jacobs. 

As I said in a different thread, the last time we played Adelaide, Vince played on Lynch, and gave him a bath.  I can't see why we wouldn't do that again.

If Harmes plays, he has to go to Sloane.

I'm quite confident about this game.  I was concerned how our young midfield would compete against a strong, mature midfield last week, and they bloody near dragged us over the line.  I don't think Adelaide's midfield bats as deep as Geelong's, so I'm confident we can at least draw level in this area, which will go a long way to us winning.

I think across the park, we match up very well, and feel that we are ready to win a game like this.

[Deemania since 56 6,165]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

So do we put Frost on Walker or do we give Oscar a shot first? also you have there other talls Jenkins and Lynch as well to stop. Maxy also needs a big game against Jacobs. 

Frost has got to take Walker from the start and play off the slow dunderhead for rebounding - but eyes up rebounding to assist his delivery to a teammate. I would not play OMac this week unless he is prepared to drop back continuously to protect the last line - I'd put Pedo in at FBack and have the Weed in one Bpocket and Jetta in the other. HBFlank would be the OMac spot with Jones rebounding on the other HBFlank. OMac can be benched if we need more run - Kent comes in off the bench. 

[The Chazz 4,077]

5 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Frost has got to take Walker from the start and play off the slow dunderhead for rebounding - but eyes up rebounding to assist his delivery to a teammate. I would not play OMac this week unless he is prepared to drop back continuously to protect the last line - I'd put Pedo in at FBack and have the Weed in one Bpocket and Jetta in the other. HBFlank would be the OMac spot with Jones rebounding on the other HBFlank. OMac can be benched if we need more run - Kent comes in off the bench. 

So that's;

In; Pedo, Kent, Weed

Who's out?

[binman 38,461]

15 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

 

I think across the park, we match up very well

Agree. And not just in terms of personnel. Our game plan works well against them because in many ways it is similar. Their press is not has high or aggressive but, like us they do press up,  don't really flood their back line (which we struggle to overcome) and like to run hard forward and attack. 

Our recent record against them reflects the fact we match up well with them. I think we will win this game. In fact i'm tipping 40 plus.

Edited July 26, 2018 by binman

[Deemania since 56 6,165]

8 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

So that's;

In; Pedo, Kent, Weed

Who's out?

Lewis, JKH, Harmes, most likely.

[The Chazz 4,077]

11 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Lewis, JKH, Harmes, most likely.

Lewis?  Dropped on game 299?  Ruthless (or stupid, I'll let you decide).

Just looked at the Changes for This Week thread, you also had T Smith, Wagner and AVB in the team.  So there's another 3 you need to drop to be replaced by them.

6 changes.  Wow.

[Deemania since 56 6,165]

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

Lewis?  Dropped on game 299?  Ruthless (or stupid, I'll let you decide).

Just looked at the Changes for This Week thread, you also had T Smith, Wagner and AVB in the team.  So there's another 3 you need to drop to be replaced by them.

6 changes.  Wow.

Just re-assessed some possibles since that post 24 hrs ago. 'Ruthless' is necessary in a competitive world. It is not necessarily heartless but revision is usually good and if not, it is informing; whereas 'stupid' does not quite fit the bill, but thanks for that, anyway. Sometimes I'd reckon that posters such as yourself are indicative of a need for singlemindedness to get out more in order to be a little less self-transfixed and personally critical, and to see how the others about us might think from time to time. However, enjoy the game.

[The Chazz 4,077]

35 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Just re-assessed some possibles since that post 24 hrs ago. 'Ruthless' is necessary in a competitive world. It is not necessarily heartless but revision is usually good and if not, it is informing; whereas 'stupid' does not quite fit the bill, but thanks for that, anyway. Sometimes I'd reckon that posters such as yourself are indicative of a need for singlemindedness to get out more in order to be a little less self-transfixed and personally critical, and to see how the others about us might think from time to time. However, enjoy the game.

We are crying out for leaders, and with our balls on the line for the next 5 games, you are wanting to drop our most experienced (both in games and finals experience)?

It was interesting to hear him talk about the moment late in the game where he gave Menzel that space.  Lewis was watching the play unfold, and immediately thought that if it was him (Lewis) coming out of the backline, the first place he would've kicked it would've been down the guts.  That's where he placed himself.  He also thought that allowing Menzel to lead to the boundary was a high % play from him (Lewis), as it would chew time off the clock, as well as making the kick out of the backline needing to be spot on.

History would show that he made the wrong decision.  But I would guarantee that ANB, Brayshaw, Petracca, et al wouldn't have that brain.

(It's worth watching the replay of "that" play - where did Hawkins take that contested mark and handball to Duncan?  EXACTLY where Lewis was standing when the ball was coming out of the backline prior to the Menzel mark).

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

Is our side announced tonight for a Saturday night game, or do we carry over like Sunday games? I am not sure how these things work. In any event, I hope it is soon as I can't handle reading idiotic suggestions like the one about dropping Lewis anymore. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,558]

5 hours ago, dl4e said:

One of the problems with this game is that it is an elimination final for Adelaide.We were robbed there against Port so lets hope the umps don't favour them too much.

If i see Nichols amongst the umpires it's game over and we can almost kiss our Finals chances goodbye

Edited July 26, 2018 by Rusty Nails

[Diamond_Jim 11,827]

25 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Is our side announced tonight for a Saturday night game, or do we carry over like Sunday games? I am not sure how these things work. In any event, I hope it is soon as I can't handle reading idiotic suggestions like the one about dropping Lewis anymore. 

Lewis won't be dropped. Two reasons. His form has been best 22 and there is no one at VFL level pushing for his spot.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Diamond_Jim

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3 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Is our side announced tonight for a Saturday night game, or do we carry over like Sunday games? I am not sure how these things work. In any event, I hope it is soon as I can't handle reading idiotic suggestions like the one about dropping Lewis anymore. 

That’s all well and good @Leoncelli_36 - but the coaches need to know that performances like Lewis won’t be tolerated, he’s been too old and too slow since he came on board - and those two factors alone prove he is not leadership material - nor the fact that his 299 games of experiences went to cut out the biggest likelihood of going down the corridor - hopefully the coaches punish him and end his career on 299 ?

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

2 minutes ago, Danelska said:

That’s all well and good @Leoncelli_36 - but the coaches need to know that performances like Lewis won’t be tolerated, he’s been too old and too slow since he came on board - and those two factors alone prove he is not leadership material - nor the fact that his 299 games of experiences went to cut out the biggest likelihood of going down the corridor - hopefully the coaches punish him and end his career on 299 ?

i bet you are a Dom Tyson apologist though?

Lewis was a midfielder who has been asked to play back and people wonder why he sometimes makes errors. He is still learning the craft of playing in that spot. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

extended bench....25 picked tonight and then reduced to 22 Friday night

Given it's a Saturday game the finalised 22 will be announced tonight.

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10 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

i bet you are a Dom Tyson apologist though?

Lewis was a midfielder who has been asked to play back and people wonder why he sometimes makes errors. He is still learning the craft of playing in that spot. 

 

Oh sorry thought my sarcasm was writ large - he does a great job and funnily enough is human - yep - makes errors.. which is easy to pull apart in retrospect . Clearly I need to choose better sardonic emoticons 

[Diamond_Jim 11,827]

3 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Given it's a Saturday game the finalised 22 will be announced tonight.

sorry .. after last week I haven't really been into this game.For some reason I assumed it was Sunday

[Jones 62]

I think Harmes (inj.) and JKH (useless) will come out for this game.

Hope Harmes stays in but if he is going to be limited in any capacity don't play him.

Bring in Pedo ... and possibly someone else, anyone... aside from JKH!