Round 15 Non MFC Games

[TRIGON 4,718]

Don’t take it personally Febe’s, but whilst BT can still draw breath, then it is you.

[hemingway 7,595]

Despite our improvement, watching the Tigers and Swans last night was depressing, 

We have a long way to go to match their intensity, tackling, contested ball, aerial strength, leg speed, relentless running, confidence and mental toughness. Both sides just constantly will themselves into the contest to win and carry the pill.

They both have a handful of out and out stars supported by a whole plethora of swarming willing worker bees who run through brick walls and attack with frenetic speed of movement and decision making so quick that you wonder how it's done. They may have a great coach but more importantly they have a bunch of players who have the perfect combination of skill, fitness and win at all costs mentality. 

Coaches and players may learn by watching but you need to have 22 players who can go out on the paddock and replicate that same action. 

Not easy but we must aspire to it.  .    

[SFebes 4,692]

49 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Don’t take it personally Febe’s, but whilst BT can still draw breath, then it is you.

I miss Dennis, Roberts and Landy

[Megatron 834]

17 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Despite our improvement, watching the Tigers and Swans last night was depressing, 

We have a long way to go to match their intensity, tackling, contested ball, aerial strength, leg speed, relentless running, confidence and mental toughness. Both sides just constantly will themselves into the contest to win and carry the pill.

They both have a handful of out and out stars supported by a whole plethora of swarming willing worker bees who run through brick walls and attack with frenetic speed of movement and decision making so quick that you wonder how it's done. They may have a great coach but more importantly they have a bunch of players who have the perfect combination of skill, fitness and win at all costs mentality. 

Coaches and players may learn by watching but you need to have 22 players who can go out on the paddock and replicate that same action. 

Not easy but we must aspire to it.  .    

We are not that far off. We do lack leg speed, especially on the outside and mental toughness is probably the other thing we need. But taking a big scalp will change the belief of the playing group. 

You need to look at the teams this week as an example. Since 2014, nearly 5 seasons of footy, Richmond’s team this week have 12 players that have played together plus have picked up 3 players with experience (Caddy, Nank, Prestia). Sydney have 15 players. This week we are fielding a team that only 7 players have played together since 2014. That is a massive difference in experience and continuity. 

We are 12-18 months away from getting to that level. Might even only be 6 months.

[hemingway 7,595]

4 minutes ago, Megatron said:

We are not that far off. We do lack leg speed, especially on the outside and mental toughness is probably the other thing we need. But taking a big scalp will change the belief of the playing group. 

You need to look at the teams this week as an example. Since 2014, nearly 5 seasons of footy, Richmond’s team this week have 12 players that have played together plus have picked up 3 players with experience (Caddy, Nank, Prestia). Sydney have 15 players. This week we are fielding a team that only 7 players have played together since 2014. That is a massive difference in experience and continuity. 

We are 12-18 months away from getting to that level. Might even only be 6 months.

Perspective. 

[DubDee 20,685]

I look at Richmonds team on paper and it looks good at best. but seeing them play they just get it done every time. Sydney played well and still didnt really come near them.

no way we can beat the Tigers this year.  we need a lot more mature bodies on the ground

[Sir Why You Little 34,530]

8 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I look at Richmonds team on paper and it looks good at best. but seeing them play they just get it done every time. Sydney played well and still didnt really come near them.

no way we can beat the Tigers this year.  we need a lot more mature bodies on the ground

Yep. Sydney a Top Side, were switched on, they were simply not allowed to win. 

We are light years from that level at present

[beelzebub 22,225]

46 minutes ago, Megatron said:

We are not far off. We do lack leg speed, especially on the outside and mental toughness ,..........

Yes we are..... and even you start describing how !

All we are is a yo yo middle order team at present.

We need to stop kidding ourselves.

There are many things to cheer about....but beating up cellar dwellers loses its shine when a 'real' team shows up with the resulting reality check.

Currently we're mutton dressed as lamb in that when you look closely the truth stares you back.

We can only hope to emulate Richmond's progress and success.

The Toiges turned the corner when they brutally looked introspective. They realised what they were doing WRONG and set about changing that ( and the personnel )

We might need to follow suit.

[sue 8,434]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

 

There are many things to cheer about....but beating up cellar dwellers loses its shine when a 'real' team shows up with the resulting reality check.

 

True, but it's sure better than being a cellar dweller though.  Just because some supporters got carried away with our performance pre-QB, is a not reason to be gloomy.  One step at a time. 

Edited June 29, 2018 by sue

[beelzebub 22,225]

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

Perspective. 

Yes Ernest it is a perspective...but to me one that glosses over the myriad of variables and differences between us and any them.

It's not just a case of time /wait and see etc.

A lot more happened at Punt Rd than games into bods

[beelzebub 22,225]

12 minutes ago, sue said:

True, but it's sure better than being a cellar dweller though.  Just because some supporters got carried away with our performance pre-QB, is a not reason to be gloomy.  One step at a time. 

Well....thats definitely a better thing...escaping the basement ???

Alas the real party isin the Penthouse...and we're not in the right lift atm

Edited June 29, 2018 by beelzebub

[Sir Why You Little 34,530]

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

 

It's not just a case of time /wait and see etc.

A lot more happened at Punt Rd than games into bods

100% agree

i still think some people think it is just going to happen. Changing the mindset of those who step inside our club is a huge ongoing and unfinished project

[John Crow Batty 8,255]

4 hours ago, hemingway said:

Despite our improvement, watching the Tigers and Swans last night was depressing, 

We have a long way to go to match their intensity, tackling, contested ball, aerial strength, leg speed, relentless running, confidence and mental toughness. Both sides just constantly will themselves into the contest to win and carry the pill.

They both have a handful of out and out stars supported by a whole plethora of swarming willing worker bees who run through brick walls and attack with frenetic speed of movement and decision making so quick that you wonder how it's done. They may have a great coach but more importantly they have a bunch of players who have the perfect combination of skill, fitness and win at all costs mentality. 

Coaches and players may learn by watching but you need to have 22 players who can go out on the paddock and replicate that same action. 

Not easy but we must aspire to it.  .    

In the game against Port we matched and bettered their desire and intensity for two and a half quarters. When 20 points up we shut shop. We can match these better sides but we either don’t show up or get too comfortable when we have some control and lose momentum. Seriously after having a bye there were no excuses to be goaless for the last 40 minutes. I am convinced the worst of our problems are in the headspace.

[beelzebub 22,225]

19 minutes ago, america de cali said:

In the game against Port we matched and bettered their desire and intensity for two and a half quarters. When 20 points up we shut shop. We can match these better sides but we either don’t show up or get too comfortable when we have some control and lose momentum. Seriously after having a bye there were no excuses to be goaless for the last 40 minutes. I am convinced the worst of our problems are in the headspace.

Was it us so much shutting shop or having our doors closed by someone else ? Thats how i see it. We do ok til we're denied....then we're stuck !!

[dl4e 5,592]

1 hour ago, america de cali said:

In the game against Port we matched and bettered their desire and intensity for two and a half quarters. When 20 points up we shut shop. We can match these better sides but we either don’t show up or get too comfortable when we have some control and lose momentum. Seriously after having a bye there were no excuses to be goaless for the last 40 minutes. I am convinced the worst of our problems are in the headspace.

That is 100% right. We are mentally soft.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,423]

Bulldogs by 13 points. 

[Return to Glory 7,728]

7 hours ago, SFebey said:

Is it just me or is Cameron Ling the worst commentator going around? No wonder ratings are down. Bruce has lost the plot and every comment is followed by "don't you think" "isn't he" or "aye" - it's cringeworthy.

Oh and Rance is getting found out to be the dog and [censored] he is.

Ling is woeful but Derwayne is next level shite. He's really got it all - lack of knowledge, repetition, smugness, absolute bias, little effort in pronunciation of names. And he packs every bit of this into every single game. And can always be relied upon the ratchet it up a bit at the Cattery. It's at the point where I now applaud his capacity to maintain a career.

[SFebes 4,692]

Oh great, Ling and Bruce again

[deelete my account 1,194]

7 hours ago, hemingway said:

Despite our improvement, watching the Tigers and Swans last night was depressing, 

We have a long way to go to match their intensity, tackling, contested ball, aerial strength, leg speed, relentless running, confidence and mental toughness. Both sides just constantly will themselves into the contest to win and carry the pill.

They both have a handful of out and out stars supported by a whole plethora of swarming willing worker bees who run through brick walls and attack with frenetic speed of movement and decision making so quick that you wonder how it's done. They may have a great coach but more importantly they have a bunch of players who have the perfect combination of skill, fitness and win at all costs mentality. 

Coaches and players may learn by watching but you need to have 22 players who can go out on the paddock and replicate that same action. 

Not easy but we must aspire to it.  .    

I do hold hope for us this year that we have 'one night' where it all clicks, and our pressure matches Rich & Syd and we capitalise on almost every scoring opportunity with great luck thrown in. And then after the opposition tries to claw back, our defence has their best night in years and absorbs everything thrown at them. I was hoping it could be a top 4 battle with Richmond that catapults us into a prelim, but i've wound down my expectation and hope to a 5-8 MCG battle with Collingwood.

Edited June 29, 2018 by John Demonic

[Sir Why You Little 34,530]

5 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Oh great, Ling and Bruce again

Beat me to it

Bruce: Ablett squeezes a pass

WTF Bruce, it’s a kick

he makes me nauseous!!

[FireInTheBennelly 4,024]

Imagine Ablett, or any Cats player, complaining that an oppo player has dropped his knees and drawn the 'in the back' free kick.

They are the undisputed experts at it.

[deelete my account 1,194]

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Beat me to it

Bruce: Ablett squeezes a pass

WTF Bruce, it’s a kick

he makes me nauseous!!

Geelong, Channel 7 and a woeful Bulldog outfit, you'd have to be a masochist to not have planned/switched over to a movie night instead.

Edited June 29, 2018 by John Demonic

[dl4e 5,592]

Thats it I have seen it all. Listening to Bruce carry on about that Narkle is sickening. He has a new one to cream himself over. Disgusting.

[beelzebub 22,225]

1 minute ago, dl4e said:

Thats it I have seen it all. Listening to Bruce carry on about that Narkle is sickening. He has a new one to cream himself over. Disgusting.

Let the 'mute' be your friend

[Ethan Tremblay 28,423]

Guthrie blocks the drop of the ball and gets a free. Even the umpires are confused by the rules. 

Edited June 29, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay