Delisting, Trade and FA discussion 2018

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,788]

20 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

12th October wrap up.

8 delisted/retired. 36 spots 

Vandenburg resigns ?

2 traded out. Kent and Tyson. 

1 traded in. Preuss. 

Likely trade in Kade Kolodjashnij.

?? Hogan hopefully he stays and tears it apart in 2019.  Likely retain  

xx Steven May. Not considered given Hogan to stay  

Keilty upgrade to senior list  

Back to 36 spots.  Need more pace and run. Another ball winning Midfielder for depth.  Need backup small defender as backup for Jetta.  

Probably:  

+1 delisted free agent

+5 draftees. # 36  46  54 62  65

+2 rookies.  # 15, 33

Re-signs thanks

[TheoX 1,222]

Would be nice if we tried to take advantage of the GWS firesale

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

We got our Giants sell off earlier.  Tyson Bugg Frost Mckenna.  Frost is the only survivor.  

[rumpole 537]

10 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

We got our Giants sell off earlier.  Tyson Bugg Frost Mckenna.  Frost is the only survivor.  

The Trade Period isn’t over yet. 

[Vineytime 854]

So if: 

IN - May, Kolodjashnij & Preuss 

OUT - Hogan, Tyson, Kent

 

do we see that as an improvement?

[MikeAlphaTango 150]

Bit unknown, Hogan amd Tyson played 20 and 17 games this year and Kent when fit was selected.

May would strengthen our defence but at who's expense? O.Mac gets games before Frost in Goodwins eyes.

Jetta May Hibberd

Lever O.Mac Salem

Kent isn't much of a loss we have plenty of half forwards.

Losing Hogan is a bummer, hoping Weed can continue to develop and kick 30+ in 2019. Tom Mcdonald will need to kick 40+

Will be interesting to see if KK can be a regular 22 player and where he plays his best football. He only played 8 games this year and 11 games in 2017.

[John Demonic 5,901]

Do we have any rumours of players we might be looking at drafting, trading for or picking up from a delisted club in the event of the following situations, or any personal suggestions on players to pick up?

• Hogan is traded, May comes in. Another 3rd tall forward?
   
• Hogan stays, May stays, Hold tight for a year? Or another KPD?
   
• Or if Hogan stays. May signs with another club. Another KPD?

[Lucifers Hero 40,516]

LINE-BREAKING midfielder Aaron Hall has been traded from Gold Coast to North Melbourne. The Roos handed over a fourth-round draft pick (No.68) to seal the deal, as reported by AFL.com.au on Monday. 

Quite a few seemingly good players are being traded at picks 50+ : Kent, Lycett, Rohan, Scully, Hall, Sam Lloyd and I'm sure there are others.

Just shows that most clubs are about cleaning up their list than sweating over picks.

[TRIGON 4,792]

Out of interests sake, why didn't we pursue Hall as a line-breaker? Was it a potential contract size or an attitude/temperament issue?

[beelzebub 23,390]

Well my brain's fried trying to keep up...

Sooooo...if we do do 'that deal' ...and then the other...meaning 

Out. Hogan

In May KK

Could some kind soul tell me how many spots we MUST fill ? 

Is it at all probability a rookie upgrade might account for 1 ..even 2 ?

Rookie spots easy to fill... The list..I presume the draft but I've lost count of where we might end up here ( number of picks )

Time for a drink... we know ... it's early....its Circus week

[old55 23,833]

Port has Brisbane's 5 now and Brisbane have 6 - Bell will not be pleased

[Axis of Bob 11,898]

8 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Port has Brisbane's 5 now and Brisbane have 6 - Bell will not be pleased

The only difference it will make is that Freo could have got the value in shifting 5 to 6 instead of Brisbane. I suppose that's the problem with waiting. Effectively it means that Freo received two picks for pick 5 instead of 6, so they lost value there.

Also, would Gold Coast view 6 as being 5 in a May deal? For us that's all that matters. Brisbane is extracting the value at the expense of Gold Coast.

[old55 23,833]

2 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

The only difference it will make is that Freo could have got the value in shifting 5 to 6 instead of Brisbane. I suppose that's the problem with waiting. Effectively it means that Freo received two picks for pick 5 instead of 6, so they lost value there.

Also, would Gold Coast view 6 as being 5 in a May deal? For us that's all that matters. Brisbane is extracting the value at the expense of Gold Coast.

True but I'm not confident Bell will be able to get his head around that.  It's quite possible it will complicate his negotiations with Brisbane for Neale because "now you're offering me 6 instead of 5 - I want more steak-knives"

[Axis of Bob 11,898]

I think it's probably the sort of thing that comes with experience. In his first year he's trying to win every deal but soon he'll realise that the true value comes from having the assets available when the real bargains are there to be taken.

He'll probably start realising now when all of these bargains are going to go around and he's too busy haggling over an unavailable 5 vs the 6 they had originally!

Edited October 17, 2018 by Axis of Bob

[Jibroni 5,035]

Means Brisbane have an extra 2nd round pick to use as part of getting Neale.

Still cant believe not real trades have happened today.

[old55 23,833]

Port keeping ahead of Adelaide in the race to draft SA prospects.  Now only Carlton, GC x2, Saints ahead of them.  Port now 5 and 10, Adelaide stuck on 8 and 13.

I wonder if Port will try to do 5 and 10 to get one of GC's 2 or 3 to make sure they get one of Lukosius or Rankine.  5 still seems late for them.

I see Adelaide's 8 + 13 is enough points for 2.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Fifty-5

[hemingway 7,633]

Can't help but feel that the whole circus is unseemly and almost indecent. 

Like a group of men haggling over a parade of prostitutes on a street corner with the pimps (player managers) urging on the suitors with their hands out for the shekels. The authorities/police (the AFL) pass by and turn a blind eye to it because they get kickbacks.

Its a win win for all.

But everyone is demeaned in the process. 

The unholy alliance between the media, the AFL, the clubs and the players all prosper as everyone seek to have their senses and desires satisfied.

However, over time, the greed and the behaviour corrupts the decency and indeed the culture of the game.  

The sad thing is that it is just going to get a lot worse in the future.   .

[old55 23,833]

Neale + 30 for 6 + 19 + 55

values Neale at 6 + 35

[picket fence 17,973]

WE CAVED IN WITH HOGAN DEAL. Freo and other clubs must be laughing their heads of at this deal!

should have insisted on 5, 19, Kollo and late third rounder.

Under the deal done Neale worth more than Hoges

Gutted!

Edited October 17, 2018 by picket fence

[ManDee 7,319]

Do you want to win the trading period or the flag?

[Demons11 7,096]

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

WE CAVED IN WITH HOGAN DEAL. Freo and other clubs must be laughing their heads of at this deal!

Gutted!

You are kidding mate!

They offered 11 and 23 and we got 5 and 23.  

A win for both

Edited October 17, 2018 by Demons11

[drysdale demon 4,837]

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

WE CAVED IN WITH HOGAN DEAL. Freo and other clubs must be laughing their heads of at this deal!

Gutted!

just another hysterical post from you.

[Jibroni 5,035]

There is 5 hours to go guys, hang in there.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Jibroni

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

Disappointed in deal, but moving on bigger fish to fry.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Win4theAges

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,251]

Essendon and Port were the premiers and runners ups in last October's trade period.

Both clubs were in Bali, Thailand, the US and Europe by September 1 2018.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Bring-Back-Powell