On 13/05/2018 at 06:43, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

You know, watching all these replays of the umpire contact, I have been thinking that whilst I don't condone any intentional agressive behaviour towards umpires, the umpires also need to get out of the face of players and out of their personal space a bit.  Thought the May incident was almost accidental and that the Carlton one was more just a natural almost instinctive reaction of someone intruding on another's personal space.  Really don't see why the umpires should have been as close to the players as they are in these instances.

nope, i disagree and curnow the senior should absolutely be suspended for a week

  On 13/05/2018 at 06:43, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

You know, watching all these replays of the umpire contact, I have been thinking that whilst I don't condone any intentional agressive behaviour towards umpires, the umpires also need to get out of the face of players and out of their personal space a bit.  Thought the May incident was almost accidental and that the Carlton one was more just a natural almost instinctive reaction of someone intruding on another's personal space.  Really don't see why the umpires should have been as close to the players as they are in these instances.

i notice often in the nrl, (when a player engages the referee) the referee will hold one arm out, palm up to indicate player is not to invade his space. they are quite insistent in this.

One thing that is really cheesing me off right now.  I was just watching the Geelong Collingwood game and listening to the commentators raving about what a great backline combination Howe and Dunn are.  What amazing discoveries they were by the Collingwood recruiters, who would have thought Dunn would turn out this good when Collingwood gave him a chance...  They make it sound as if they were recruited out of the bush leagues by the savvy Collingwood recruitment staff, not already established players who played a substantial amount of football with Melbourne.  How about acknowledging that Dunn was developed ad persisted with for years at Melbourne to become the defender he is today? 

Good to see that Geelong players are still allowed to dispose of the footy any way they like.

  On 13/05/2018 at 07:57, RalphiusMaximus said:

One thing that is really cheesing me off right now.  I was just watching the Geelong Collingwood game and listening to the commentators raving about what a great backline combination Howe and Dunn are.  What amazing discoveries they were by the Collingwood recruiters, who would have thought Dunn would turn out this good when Collingwood gave him a chance...  They make it sound as if they were recruited out of the bush leagues by the savvy Collingwood recruitment staff, not already established players who played a substantial amount of football with Melbourne.  How about acknowledging that Dunn was developed ad persisted with for years at Melbourne to become the defender he is today? 

They also forget Dunn had an AA season with us. Dunn’s a veteran and retirement is near. We got Omac in his place who appears will be a great key defender for a decade or more to come. Plus we have Hibberd and Lever who will be around for a while and will provide far more value than Howe gave us. Collingwood are not going  to build a premiership side with those two. Good luck to them to have found a good superannuation club and still being serviceable but if the old won’t go away then the new won’t come. 

Edited May 13, 20186 yr by america de cali

  On 13/05/2018 at 04:48, Mr Steve said:

Dusty having a poor game at the moment. I take it he is not injured.

 

Just watched the channel 7 news and dusty fended off a guy straight into his throat I think in the last qtr. No free and I bet you nothing will be said by the AFL. Protected  player by head office.

 

Haha go Bombres!! 

  On 12/05/2018 at 23:31, biggestred said:

Essendon fans.

It takes a bad start to the year and a loss to carlton to make them have a meltdown, not a systematic doping regime....

Says everything really

They still are debating their innocence on that board.

To be fair, we still have 'The Fat Lady Sings' thread here but it usually gets updated when one of that crew bobs up in the media.

We also have the odd 'we never tanked' post turn up but I think most of us now recognize that was a dark chapter in our club and that the blokes who came up with it were incompetents and self promoters of the highest order.

In some ways, I can see how the club are trying to put it behind them. Lindsay Tanner has mostly slapped down talk from the Sheedys of this world intimating that it was everyone's fault besides Bombers and Jimmy's. 

However, I can see Essendon's fan base becoming as great a bugbear to their administration as Richmond's was through the 80's and 90's. They hounded Matty Knights out of his job to get Golden Boy in and will be more than vocal the second Woosha looks wobbly.

Just look at @daisycutter's post. How different is that from microwaving your membership?

Edited May 13, 20186 yr by Colin B. Flaubert

  On 12/05/2018 at 21:44, don't make me angry said:

I would not take that as a reason for him not to be captain, who else could captain them that  has not been convicted,  he is over rated as a player, the bombers played above themselves last year, I never rate heppel as a player. They have recruited very poorly, from the time they picked parish I always thought he was never going to be any good, I mean he was classed as a inside mid, he is too slim for that I can't see any tricks to his game, he does not get much of it his kicking is just average, he is weak lucky we have Jason Taylor because in the past we would have picked him, he is Cale Morton mark2, can anyone tell me his best weapon?

That great natural leader, Goddard ????

  On 13/05/2018 at 01:46, willmoy said:

God, i'm gonna miss you Beelzebub........almost like listening to my imaginary psychiatrist.....

Now willmoy, tell me how your psychiatrist must feel when you describe him as imaginary? ?

  On 13/05/2018 at 05:11, daisycutter said:

i50 going at 45:28 to richmond for only a 4 point lead

That trend has a very familiar feel. 

  On 13/05/2018 at 22:49, Colin B. Flaubert said:

They still are debating their innocence on that board.

To be fair, we still have 'The Fat Lady Sings' thread here but it usually gets updated when one of that crew bobs up in the media.

We also have the odd 'we never tanked' post turn up but I think most of us now recognize that was a dark chapter in our club and that the blokes who came up with it were incompetents and self promoters of the highest order.

In some ways, I can see how the club are trying to put it behind them. Lindsay Tanner has mostly slapped down talk from the Sheedys of this world intimating that it was everyone's fault besides Bombers and Jimmy's. 

However, I can see Essendon's fan base becoming as great a bugbear to their administration as Richmond's was through the 80's and 90's. They hounded Matty Knights out of his job to get Golden Boy in and will be more than vocal the second Woosha looks wobbly.

Just look at @daisycutter's post. How different is that from microwaving your membership?

I think the big difference with the tanking thing is that it was pretty much encouraged within the rules at the time. Everyone knew we were terrible and everyone knew there was a certain/max number of games we could win. We all thought we'd be better off with an extra high draft pick too. 

 

  On 13/05/2018 at 12:45, daisycutter said:

 

Hitting the afterburners ??

Apropos of nothing, Michael Hurley has laid 6 tackles in 8 games this year. Great AA defender.

Even Jack Watts, who has always been 'measured' against Hurley as they were taken in the same draft has had 23 tackles!

 

  On 13/05/2018 at 07:57, RalphiusMaximus said:

One thing that is really cheesing me off right now.  I was just watching the Geelong Collingwood game and listening to the commentators raving about what a great backline combination Howe and Dunn are.  What amazing discoveries they were by the Collingwood recruiters, who would have thought Dunn would turn out this good when Collingwood gave him a chance...  They make it sound as if they were recruited out of the bush leagues by the savvy Collingwood recruitment staff, not already established players who played a substantial amount of football with Melbourne.  How about acknowledging that Dunn was developed ad persisted with for years at Melbourne to become the defender he is today? 

How can Dunn be a whole lot fitter without being a whole lot thinner than what he used to be?

Meanwhile Moore eyes the inevitable change sides.....

  On 13/05/2018 at 05:44, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Rance on Brown, two of the biggest stagers in the league, intolerable sods the pair of them 

Why doesn't anyone ever seem to call out Ben Brown for his staging for free kicks? Every week, he seems to run himself under the ball, but then flops forward, arms flailing, and the umps buy it. The tv will show a replay, and the commentators just sit there in silence. It was karma he missed those set shots at the end.

North are the biggest stagers in the competition, and what do you know, 33 free kicks yesterday...

  On 14/05/2018 at 01:12, clark's kick said:

Why doesn't anyone ever seem to call out Ben Brown for his staging for free kicks? Every week, he seems to run himself under the ball, but then flops forward, arms flailing, and the umps buy it. The tv will show a replay, and the commentators just sit there in silence. It was karma he missed those set shots at the end.

North are the biggest stagers in the competition, and what do you know, 33 free kicks yesterday...

watched North live a couple of weeks ago against Port.

Certainly the North supporters holler for a free kick to Brown every time he doesn't mark it. In the main they weren't given but I take your point.

He is a big unit and I think his style lends itself to the free kick. Luckily Oscar had his measure a few weeks ago.

  On 12/05/2018 at 06:33, Gorgoroth said:

Ed Curnow won’t play next week, hand firmly placed on umpires chest.

Charlie Curnow also touched an umpire. Slight touch but is he also in trouble?

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-05-14/has-nat-blown-the-brownlow

  On 14/05/2018 at 02:04, Dee Zephyr said:

Charlie Curnow also touched an umpire. Slight touch but is he also in trouble?

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-05-14/has-nat-blown-the-brownlow

Gee whiz, imagine playing Carlton without the Curnow brothers.  Not too worried about the Blues, but after last years two matches were way too close for comfort, not having those two will make Carlton much worse.

  On 13/05/2018 at 12:45, daisycutter said:

 

I assume by gear they are referring to the club's performance enhancing drugs and related paraphernalia (needles, swabs etc etc). I would too. It's clearly not working 

Or perhaps gear is more old schools and just refers to some of Bombers products. If that is the case i wouldn't be burning it if i was them. They are going to need some mood enhancers this season. 

  On 14/05/2018 at 02:04, Dee Zephyr said:

Charlie Curnow also touched an umpire. Slight touch but is he also in trouble?

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-05-14/has-nat-blown-the-brownlow

This just proves AFL footballers aren’t too smart. After all the carry on last week with Hawkins you would think the "Don’t touch the umpire, there are consequences" message would have got through.

For the sake of the lower grades and kids level footy both Curnows and May should go for a week. It would reinforce the rule and show consistency by the tribunal. Having said that I think they will all get off..

  On 14/05/2018 at 02:04, Dee Zephyr said:

Charlie Curnow also touched an umpire. Slight touch but is he also in trouble?

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-05-14/has-nat-blown-the-brownlow

You couldn't make this shite up could you??

Both have to go. Intentionally touching an ump, if Hawkins deserved a week then same must apply here. 

  On 14/05/2018 at 01:12, clark's kick said:

Why doesn't anyone ever seem to call out Ben Brown for his staging for free kicks? Every week, he seems to run himself under the ball, but then flops forward, arms flailing, and the umps buy it. The tv will show a replay, and the commentators just sit there in silence. It was karma he missed those set shots at the end.

North are the biggest stagers in the competition, and what do you know, 33 free kicks yesterday...

I really like Brown as a player but this is spot on, did it against us a lot too.

Looking forward to next week, i dont think i can recall seeing so many 1 sided games? There are 7 of 9 games that are pretty much heavily favoured to one team, with the other very little chance of winning or even getting close.

Is our even competition suddenly starting to turn into the haves and the have nots......?