Post Match Discussion - Round 4

[Cards13 9,117]

Yea very disappointing, was noted all week as a statement game (amongst fans) and we chit the bed massively.

Anyone who says theirs reason for that loss are kidding themselves. We’re not good enough, have zero composure, have no ability to stop a run on/turn a game our way and our coaches are questionable. 

Very frustrating for the Dees faithful again and again and again. 

[Jaded No More 59,201]

Just now, big_red_fire_engine said:

Things are never as good or as bad as they seem. Today was poor execution and no spread or clean stoppages against a well drilled side. If thats the loss we have to have to drop Lewis, Bugg, Harmes and play another tall forward then so be it. I am disappointed in the game but more interested in the response at both selection and against the best drilled team in the comp on Anzac eve. 

I will eat my arm if they drop Lewis. 

Worst vice captain in the AFL!

[DV8 2,271]

26 minutes ago, Chris said:

Turn the sprinklers on at training this week, we have no idea how to play with a wet ball

Barass would have them training with the yellow ball in the wet to get them right,, after many many 100 Mtr sprints.

But its much more than just a skill thing.

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This has been going on at Melbourne for decades now Under game pressure

 

We do not handle our own supporters negativity on game day.

 

The players try harder and harder, until they end up trying so hard, they lose objectivity...  and they become harassed within their own minds.

 

From that point, the game is as good as gone.

 

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we our our own worst enemies on gamedays.

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lets take it out on the opposition,,,,, instead of our own players.

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Leave the venom and critique for during the week days Melbourne..

 

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Edited April 15, 2018 by DV8

[Garbo 1,364]

Under Goodwin we haven’t played well when it is wet or windy so today’s result was not unexpected once I saw the weather, I was more surprised that we did so well in the first qtr than anything.

Lever has to go back to the 2’s and find some form, I don’t care how silly it makes the club look in recruiting him on big money it’s the only way he will be any use to us, continuing to play him is doing him no favours 

Edited April 15, 2018 by Garbo

[nosoupforme 3,085]

I am sure and many others are gutted by the meek performance. 15 goals 2  to ONE goal 7 after Quarter time.  Haw 54 to Mel 53 inside 50s. smashed in the middle 56 to 39. missed Tyson today  We are missing one tall forward. However some of our players definitely  not skilful.

We need to make some changes maybe quite a few because some are receiving free games. I hope that Tyson and Hunt get back in and whoever else really wants to play for the Dees.  

[What 18,810]

Note to self - don't get excited about this footy club ever again.

[frankie_d 1,410]

16 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Well... anyone do anything interesting today ??  ?

At the Comm Games in QLD. Watched the Australian netballers (shortest priced favourites ever) get done by a single point with a penalty after the final bell. Probably less painful than being at the 'G.

Son and heir texted the progress from the 'G - good to see his vocabulary expanding nicely...

The only blokes I have faith in at the moment are PJ, Oliver and Max. 

 

[Die Hard Demon 1,154]

Guys... Goodwin weaves his magic to keep Tom Mitchell under 40 disposals! That’s a win ?

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Things are never as good or as bad as they seem. Today was poor execution and no spread or clean stoppages against a well drilled side. If thats the loss we have to have to drop Lewis, Bugg, Harmes and play another tall forward then so be it. I am disappointed in the game but more interested in the response at both selection and against the best drilled team in the comp on Anzac eve. 

I'm with you, red.  It's a very, very disappointing loss that we have to swallow today, but I'm very interested in what Goodwin and the players do from here.  While much lies at the feet of Goodwin, some of the players have to take responsibility for their performances as well.

A big 8 days lie ahead.

[3Dee 1,153]

25 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

At least  we now know we're utter shite.  

i realized that last August 

[Pipefitter 2,042]

Needed another tall if we are just going to play a bomb it on their heads game plan. 

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Hawthorn were clean and direct in the wet.

We kept trying to paddle it, flick it, dinky handball it, anything but take possession and do the hard work.

Wet weather footy 101.

[pinkshark 935]

Terrible. 

Coaching strategy I mean.

When Hogan patted that rookie on the head in the first quarter who dropped the chest mark I thought here we [censored] go!  Karma gods never reward that behaviour.  

[stranga 328]

2 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Yea very disappointing, was noted all week as a statement game (amongst fans) and we chit the bed massively.

Anyone who says theirs reason for that loss are kidding themselves. We’re not good enough, have zero composure, have no ability to stop a run on/turn a game our way and our coaches are questionable. 

Very frustrating for the Dees faithful again and again and again. 

Pretty much summed it up perfectly.

Time to accept majority of the list is still mediocre, I don't know where this depth thing came from. At least ten blokes are vfl players in their skill and decisions.

 This coaching group have undone much of the game plan improvement Roos brought us.

Lack of leadership remains an issue. 

[layzie 29,798]

Wow. What in the hell was that? Turned up to play in the first quarter but as soon as the Hawks found their rhythm and the rain came so did our game plan and effort. I'm completely lost for words after that. 

All I can think of right now is the phrase that was thrown around after rd23 last year. How it was going to 'burn in the guts'. That's all just words it really is.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

16 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

It was.  I'm not worried as such, I think frustration was the overriding emotion for most of the day.  But to watch us put the cue in the rack the way we did was the thing that got me worried.

Lever has made us worse because we don't know how to use him properly.  I say we, but it's really on Goodwin.  Teams know how Lever plays and they're doing everything they can to drag him away from the play.  We can fix it, but it's clearly going to take a little time.

What I want to see is a response.  Alright, we've been done by 10 goals today in an embarrassing performance.  What are we going to do about it?  Will we do the same things again next week and let Richmond put us to the sword, or will we make some changes to both personnel and the game plan, and look to fix up some of our issues?

It's going to be a long 8 days ahead...

I don't think bending over and picking up the ball or hitting a target with your foot has much to do with structure. The problem is he isn't even doing the basics to an acceptable level.

It's a whole other debate about what he is already making us have to do structure wise. Losing a runner off half back so he can play third tall. He would want to learn to play key defender real soon or Casey will be his next destination.

[drdrake 3,057]

We can go back for 15 years pretty see sure this site was live then plus demonology, it is the same every year mentally weak dumb footballers.  Our players are robots programmed to play one way.  The conditions dont suit our players cant change

[640MD 3,010]

Clarkson clearly won this one. Fortunately for me I only saw the scores after quarter time. Then last 10 minutes.

My wife thinks I am unhinged watching such tripe. I’ve been watching carp football for most of the last 50 years 

couple of good years but not enough 

she might be right.

[DV8 2,271]

31 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

We lost this in the Box...makeno mistake

Bunnies in headlights ... effectively did sfa to remedy the hemorrhage !!

Take a bow Simon/Brendan

No we didn't, we lost this out in the open air of the Arena.

Not the coaching.

 

The players became shell-shocked. From the hawks sole intent on Pressure in the 1st, and from our own unfriendly-fire.

 

We undermine our own, and have been doing that to ourselves foe many a year.

 

This is partly why we becAme a front-running team in our past. because when Our boys are 'on', the supporters are 'on'... everyone is Happy.

 

But add focused opposition Pressure to shell-shock those D's,  and then watch them Implode..................  from over the fence first.   The whole vocal-theme changes from the positive,,,  into a ferocious attack on our own men.

 

Particularly the pressure of the Poos and Wees.

 

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Edited April 15, 2018 by DV8

[Ethan Tremblay 28,567]

We’ve gone backwards since last season. 

[DemonLad5 1,640]

[Nasher 33,175]

27 minutes ago, olisik said:

We don’t even have a first rounder in this years super draft...

FFS.

[martin 727]

In pre season previews the much maligned Mark Robinson left us out of the 8 because we cant be trusted. Dont like him but its hard to argue after this insipid performance.

[640MD 3,010]

No wonder we did not get many high profile live to TV matches 

the AFL know more than some (most) of us,

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

Why on earth did Goodwin sacrifice an in form Jones on mitchell?? Blokes an idiot. Should of sent Melksham or Vince..

Why on earth were Hawthorn allowed to play a goal keeping like FB in Stratton all day? 

Game plan was clearly not altered to play in the wet. Kept bombing it long to our SMALL FWD LINE!!

We couldn’t lacked heart, endeavour and cool Heads under pressure.

The only few that could hold their heads high weee OMac Hibberd Kent & Gawn.