Jones Forward?

[Demonland 73,936]

Garry Lyon has forecast a new role for Melbourne co-skipper Nathan Jones as he attempts to overcome a series of niggling injuries.

With the Dees starting to build a talented engine room, headlined by the likes of Christian Petracca and Clayton Oliver, the former Melbourne captain expects to see Jones spend more time forward in order to preserve his body for the challenges that lie ahead.

“I would expect him to play, we talk about Petracca wanting to go into the middle, you know that Oliver can, he will go forward perhaps for longer periods in time, and maybe it will help preserve his body,” Lyon said on SEN Breakfast.

“He could even go back as well.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/01/30/is-a-move-forward-in-the-offing-for-dees-leader/

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

Sam McClure reported on SEN this morning that Nathan still has calf issues.

 

[Demon3 2,541]

Makes sense to me.. actually has great goal awareness. 

[Demonland 73,936]

12 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Sam McClure reported on SEN this morning that Nathan still has calf issues.

 

We could have both captains sidelined in Round 1.

Who gets the coin toss gig?

[jackaub 1,402]

16 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Sam McClure reported on SEN this morning that Nathan still has calf issues.

 

I said that before xmas only to be shot down by Saty who talks to the players

The injury is much worse than admitted to

[Sir Why You Little 37,342]

Getting older...Not that i heard what G Lyon said, as i cannot cope with his radio voice, but it ain't Rocket Science...

[Forest Demon 4,681]

58 minutes ago, jackaub said:

I said that before xmas only to be shot down by Saty who talks to the players

The injury is much worse than admitted to

Are you suggesting the players are not completely candid when they talk to random supporters? Surely not.

Calf injuries, particularly in older players, is becoming one of those injuries that never seem to go away. Like foot injuries.

Edited January 30, 2018 by Forest Demon

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

We could have both captains sidelined in Round 1.

Who gets the coin toss gig?

toin coss for big Maxy.

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

1 hour ago, Forest Demon said:

Are you suggesting the players are not completely candid when they talk to random supporters? Surely not.

Calf injuries, particularly in older players, is becoming one of those injuries that never seem to go away. Like foot injuries.

Settle down, had a good laugh with Jonesy when I asked him were the reports of his demise premature

He attacked pre pre and pre season like he normally does and his body quietly reminded him he was a year older

As per the article on Club Website, he is now listening to it, has had a niggly calf, so as with Viney, the fitness and medical staff have him on a short leash, Viney is also right on track as well

As for the candid comments, I am told quite a lot of info, but trusted to keep it to myself, unless I am told to advertise it to put a lid on some nonesense

[What 18,810]

34 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

As per the article on Club Website,

lol

[The Chazz 4,077]

41 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Settle down, had a good laugh with Jonesy when I asked him were the reports of his demise premature

He attacked pre pre and pre season like he normally does and his body quietly reminded him he was a year older

As per the article on Club Website, he is now listening to it, has had a niggly calf, so as with Viney, the fitness and medical staff have him on a short leash, Viney is also right on track as well

As for the candid comments, I am told quite a lot of info, but trusted to keep it to myself, unless I am told to advertise it to put a lid on some nonesense

You've admitted in the past that Jones tells you SFA at the very least.

In response to the OP, I think Jones is still a very important cog in our midfield.  Without him, we have a young, confident (bordering on cocky) group of mids.  They will make some teams look silly, but will still get shown up against some of the hardened mids like Geelong, Sydney, etc.

I can also see Jones doing a "Lewis", by playing back rather than forward.  Just not yet.

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

2 hours ago, The Chazz said:

You've admitted in the past that Jones tells you SFA at the very least.

In response to the OP, I think Jones is still a very important cog in our midfield.  Without him, we have a young, confident (bordering on cocky) group of mids.  They will make some teams look silly, but will still get shown up against some of the hardened mids like Geelong, Sydney, etc.

I can also see Jones doing a "Lewis", by playing back rather than forward.  Just not yet.

I say Jones gives me nothing, read what I also wrote

The midfield group will be fine against any other team as long as they turn ip and play as a group

Edited January 31, 2018 by Satyriconhome

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4 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

Are you suggesting the players are not completely candid when they talk to random supporters? Surely not.

Saty is a random supporter? Wash your mouth out with bleach for committing such blasphemy!

He should be put on the honor boards at the club and not made to weather such wicked attacks on his character.

[Fat Tony 5,322]

I think Jones would be better going back in a similar role to Jarrad McVeigh than as a forward. He is not great overhead or super quick. I also don't see small forwards having a lighter load than midfielders these days given they push up the ground so far.

[Willmoy1947 4,229]

Adds a whole lot more to the, no certainties in the best 22 this year and we should embrace it.........

[dazzledavey36 55,996]

I do worry about Jonesy calf. This is the same calf that made him miss 4 weeks last year, and which ever way you look at it, it is the old man's injury in footy terms. To hear he's been having niggle during the pre season is a little worrying.. but not slashing my wrist over, as I'm still backing his durability. 

He's the ultimate professional, so I know he'll do everything in his power to get it right each week.

Edited January 31, 2018 by dazzledavey36

[buck_nekkid 6,089]

Think of the game as one of rotations:  Midfield, secondary zone, bench.  Bernie and Lewis rotate centre-back-bench, Trac, Jones (Hogan, Hannan) rotate forward-centre-bench.   Stretch wing-centre-bench.  Oliver and Viney as almost pure mids (on ball - bench). Etc. Provides lots of options, and also leadership on every line.  With Lewis and Lever coordinating the back half, Jones could add some valuable leadership forward if needed.  So I'm not against him spending time forward as Trac rotates into the middle.

I don't speak to him, or for him, but in the pics posted he seems to be going OK for an old bugger with bung calves....

[rjay 25,362]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is the same calf that made him miss 4 weeks last year,

Quad strain I think last year 'dazzle'...

The calf seems to be one he's picked up this pre season. Either way he is starting to pick up a few soft tissue injuries now and will need to modify his training a bit as it appears he understands.

He's been quite durable to date.

[DeeSpencer 26,539]

Back makes more sense than forward, but I still think he's got plenty of time left in the midfield, first by moving on to the wing and away from the crash and bash.

A high half forward role wouldn't be unreasonable but in reality there's not much difference between that role and playing on a wing/rotating in to the guts.

[deelete my account 1,194]

4 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I think Jones would be better going back in a similar role to Jarrad McVeigh than as a forward. He is not great overhead or super quick. I also don't see small forwards having a lighter load than midfielders these days given they push up the ground so far.

The scary bearded bald man role ? McVeigh does have 4cm and some flexibility on him, so he can play on a 3rd tall as well as small. I think Jones has more of a scent for kicking a goal when its needed. 20 goals as a hf would be a valuable contribution in a year. And he has the fierceness to corral defenders and tackle them with force if we're aiming to be the best team for pressure again like we were until mid season last year.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Doodle Dee

[Biffen 12,949]

Would you position Pele as goalkeeper? Do not overthink .

[Chook 15,031]

Anything Gary Lyon has to say about the MFC I take with a massive handful of salt.

[Vineytime 854]

1 hour ago, Chook said:

Anything Gary Lyon has to say about the MFC I take with a massive handful of salt.

I don’t, he is still connected within the Club and his “mail” is generally pretty good...

Edited January 31, 2018 by Vineytime

[dworship 3,343]

12 hours ago, jackaub said:

I said that before xmas only to be shot down by Saty who talks to the players

The injury is much worse than admitted to

I went along to training 2 weeks ago with the specific aim of looking at the players in rehab. I spent 15 mins watching Jones in competitive work and he certainly didn't look like a player who was struggling with a calf. So I'm interested in what you have observed or who have you spoken to that makes you think the injury is "much worse"?

Edited January 31, 2018 by dworship
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[dazzledavey36 55,996]

5 hours ago, rjay said:

Quad strain I think last year 'dazzle'...

The calf seems to be one he's picked up this pre season. Either way he is starting to pick up a few soft tissue injuries now and will need to modify his training a bit as it appears he understands.

He's been quite durable to date.

You're correct, my bad.