Cause for optimism?

I had some free time and called SEN yesterday to specifically ask David Schwarz one question that’s been nagging me for years.

I know he has a son and was wondering ( hoping ) if he had the makings of a prospective father/son nomination in a few years time 

David was very honest and admitted that whilst his son played football , he was only 12 and pencil thin , thus not monstering opponents yet .

On the positive side he WAS projected to grow to 6’6” ( in the old measurements ) and The Ox hoped he’d be good enough to play for the mighty Dees eventually.

We can live and dream? because realistically there’s no other superstars in the recent history of the club that we can hope for similarly gifted offspring.

 

 

1 minute ago, joeboy said:

Cause for optimism?

I had some free time and called SEN yesterday to specifically ask David Schwarz one question that’s been nagging me for years.

I know he has a son and was wondering ( hoping ) if he had the makings of a prospective father/son nomination in a few years time 

David was very honest and admitted that whilst his son played football , he was only 12 and pencil thin , thus not monstering opponents yet .

On the positive side he WAS projected to grow to 6’6” ( in the old measurements ) and The Ox hoped he’d be good enough to play for the mighty Dees eventually.

We can live and dream? because realistically there’s no other superstars in the recent history of the club that we can hope for similarly gifted offspring.

 

 

That’s what I like about the ox he says it as it is with no sugar coating it. 

Hopefully his son comes on in a big way for us. 

What a champ was the Ox.

Tall, mobile, great mark, great kick.Supreme  talent curtailed by injury.

No wonder Collingwood offered him a fortune to change. But he remained a Demon.

Still is a Demon.

 

Hopefully he comes on for himself and Theox - whether it’s football or something else I hope he does well. Theox was one of my all time favorites and I just hope his son has more luck than he did - not exactly an easy path

if he was able to play for our beloved team that would amazing 

If his son can do anything like his old man could then I think we'll be pretty happy.

 

17 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

What a champ was the Ox.

Tall, mobile, great mark, great kick.Supreme  talent curtailed by injury.

No wonder Collingwood offered him a fortune to change. But he remained a Demon.

Still is a Demon.

 

Ron Barassi offered him 1mil to join the Swans in the toilets at the Brownlow.

 

(no matter how many times a rewrite that it still sounds dirty)

1 hour ago, joeboy said:

We can live and dream? because realistically there’s no other superstars in the recent history of the club that we can hope for similarly gifted offspring.

 

 

Kobe Farmer

Huge man crush on the great man.  Hopefully Cooper is as big a talent, and has better knees. God knows I don’t want to cry again over another busted knee.

Our Schwarzenegger was a champion.  

In 1994, he was as good as Carey. And Carey was one of the greatest of all time. 

I was behind the goals at the punt road end, when Schwartz twisted and his knee went.  We were silent.  For the rest of the game, it was a blur.  I think our future went out the window. He was a sensational CHF.  We were seeing another Demon cursed.  

His courage to play on was amazing and whilst he was never the spring heeled CHF, he was a loyal champion Demon. 

He's a club legend/favorite son. Bitter sweet reminiscing his career, but i still love doing it.

As a fairy tale it would be nice if he's son could play for us, but i'd rather concentrate (eventhough it's not your point) on our current No 5 who I think is the greatest talent we've had since the great Schwartz.

Love the passion still(always) there for David! Red & Blue. 

12 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

If his son can do anything like his old man could then I think we'll be pretty happy.

 

Long time since ive seen this. Rudolf Nureyev he was! I remember Schwarz and Nietz, 5 and 6, i couldnt believe we finally had these two huge players and all the marks they took. Thanks for posting WB.

Schwarz along with Flower and Jacovich were the best demon players I can think of. It may seem a bit far fetched but his knees probably cost us a premiership.

15 hours ago, joeboy said:

We can live and dream? because realistically there’s no other superstars in the recent history of the club that we can hope for similarly gifted offspring.

Gee joeboy Jack Viney not good enough for you, and Joel Smith just needs a bit of luck

Kobe Farmer for me if Dad can prize him away from the hoops

Would hate to be young Stot, would be crucified if not as good as the Ox, great footy player, awful media person

Edited November 2, 20178 yr by Satyriconhome

46 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Gee joeboy Jack Viney not good enough for you, and Joel Smith just needs a bit of luck

Kobe Farmer for me if Dad can prize him away from the hoops

Would hate to be young Stot, would be crucified if not as good as the Ox, great footy player, awful media person

Todd Viney and Shaun Smith were not superstars.

Why don’t you bother to fully read and comprehend other people’s posts?

Serious question.

Love the Ox

He still keeps good contacts within the club. 

He was filthy like us after Round 23

he was still a great player after that third recon. not a superstar like he was destined to be, but still very good. We've actually lacked that exist type of player since he retired.

Nice person the OX man. He was one player that was always happy to have a chat with the the kids and parents as well, at the family days.

During the footy season love SEN on a Friday arvo with the OX and Doctor turf, great show.

4 hours ago, McQueen said:

Todd Viney and Shaun Smith were not superstars.

Why don’t you bother to fully read and comprehend other people’s posts?

Serious question.

I don't regard the Ox as a superstar

Why don't you mind your own business, serious answer, I am allowed to post what i want

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

I don't regard the Ox as a superstar

Why don't you mind your own business, serious answer, I am allowed to post what i want

Pot.. meet.. Kettle...

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

I don't regard the Ox as a superstar

Why don't you mind your own business, serious answer, I am allowed to post what i want

 

7 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Gee joeboy Jack Viney not good enough for you, and Joel Smith just needs a bit of luck

Kobe Farmer for me if Dad can prize him away from the hoops

Would hate to be young Stot, would be crucified if not as good as the Ox, great footy player, awful media person

You once promised you'd never read my threads again?‍♂️

8 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Love the Ox

He still keeps good contacts within the club. 

He was filthy like us after Round 23

I would like it were he to spend some time with Jesse and Weed ( and maybe Tommy) advising and encouraging even if not in any formal capacity.  

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I don't regard the Ox as a superstar

Why don't you mind your own business, serious answer, I am allowed to post what i want

Prior to the knee reco he was going to be one of the best players to ever pull on the red and blue jumper.  

He was, at the very least, a superstar at the end of 1994.  It's a shame to see you not giving him the credit he deserves.

He would have to throw a freak. Geez he was good. Before the knee he was something else. Really unfortunate we will never know how good he could of been.

Just now, KingDingAling said:

He would have to throw a freak. Geez he was good. Before the knee he was something else. Really unfortunate we will never know how good he could of been.

From his highlights package, during the last term against the Dogs he had 25 touches, 12 marks and had kicked 2 goals.  The Ox had a massive tank and would do a mammoth amount of work to not only kick goals but set them up as well.  Lyon kicked 10 that day and he had a hand in many of them.  

It's why I'm still super excited to see Jesse get a full pre-season under his belt as I believe he can play this exact role for us going forward.  He doesn't need to hit the scoreboard each week in big numbers to have a positive impact on the side.  Schwarz was exactly the same.