MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - ROUND 22

[Copuchas 763]

Just now, Deemented Are Go! said:

Yeah I've noticed that. Maybe why he's coming fifth last? 

Perhaps it's a legacy of having grown up as a Filth supporting [censored]???? !!!

[Bay Riffin 1,518]

12 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Strange that JKH did not get a role in Viney's absence.

None of the VFL regulars have grabbed their oppotunity when granted.

Perhaps Maynard this week but not full of confidence.

The Hogan selection is a surprise... will be interesting to see if we can get our forward line functioning again. It has not really worked for several weeks.

Another big game... Go Dees

Except when it functioned last week

[bandicoot 1,395]

2 hours ago, Copuchas said:

Has anyone else noticed that Bontempelli ALWAYS tips against the Dees in the Herald Sun footy tipping?  What's that all about? !!

Alister lunch and Brad Johnston also tipped Brisbane. Don't think lynch rates us at all 

[rpfc 29,020]

1 hour ago, Bay Riffin said:

Except when it functioned last week

That's a relative statement. Yes, it functioned enough to win but we had 62 Inside 50s and had 26 scoring shots.

In our best wins: StK 55 and 30, Ess 55 and 27, WB 54 and 28, Adel 53 and 22, Coll 57 and 29, WCE 47 and 24, PA 62 and 23.

There is a lot of noise in those numbers but we were running at a better efficiency earlier in the year. And we have left ourselves a tiny bit exposed in those last two stirring wins with excellent starts that didn't get enough out of the domination.

A rough guide would be a shot at goal for every two entries and we didn't get that, so I do believe it can function much better.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

2 hours ago, Copuchas said:

Has anyone else noticed that Bontempelli ALWAYS tips against the Dees in the Herald Sun footy tipping?  What's that all about? !!

There's been a rumour that we promised to pick him but didn't

[monoccular 17,759]

13 hours ago, dl4e said:

Stretch for Viney. Obviously weid out for Hogan. Just put Hogan at FF.

CHF please (as much as positions actually mean anything)

5 hours ago, Pates said:

We start well, break their spirits and cruise to a win. 

We get a slow start, give them belief, and there'll be a lot of nervous Dees fans!

Please can we just do it easy for once?

Great start last week wasn't exactly translated to a cruise ?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

2 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

There's been a rumour that we promised to pick him but didn't

Because the Bulldogs picked him before us?

[PaulRB 6,435]

Reckon big Max Gawn is set for a monster game on the weekend. looking forward to seeing how he responds.

[DemonOX 8,857]

1 hour ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

There's been a rumour that we promised to pick him but didn't

God don't say that. Geez wines and Bont would have been handy. 

[Demon Jack 7,194]

1 hour ago, bandicoot said:

Alister lunch and Brad Johnston also tipped Brisbane. Don't think lynch rates us at all 

I saw that. Lynch's logic was essentially that their best midfielder in Beams is a better player than our best midfielder in Nathan Jones (according to Roos). 

[binman 44,792]

4 hours ago, 3726062254 said:

Same. Overall I have been happy with Frost & O Mac's development down back this year.

Could there be more to him not being selected? I'm sure his contract it up at years end, and the paranoia in me says he is off to another club. Again, this is based on noting but my paranoia.

That's a stronger base than for many of the arguments on DL (particularly the dark web)

[Willmoy1947 4,260]

11 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

I saw that. Lynch's logic was essentially that their best midfielder in Beams is a better player than our best midfielder in Nathan Jones (according to Roos). 

Got a feeling that he was hoping Roos would say Viney instead of Jones, which sort of made the conversation peter out.

[poita 3,944]

Just to clarify, having screwed Viney's foot by bringing him back too early, we now propose to take the same risk with Hogan's shoulder? I'd rather see Watts play, and give Hogan at least one more week.

On the bold assumption that Hogan is actually fit to play, hopefully we see:

IN: Hogan, Stretch, Maynard

OUT: Weideman, Wagner, Viney

 

[Robbie57 2,042]

Does anyone think we will go with Hogan/Weid combo with Trac being used in the middle?

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,136]

9 minutes ago, poita said:

Just to clarify, having screwed Viney's foot by bringing him back too early, we now propose to take the same risk with Hogan's shoulder? I'd rather see Watts play, and give Hogan at least one more week.

On the bold assumption that Hogan is actually fit to play, hopefully we see:

IN: Hogan, Stretch, Maynard

OUT: Weideman, Wagner, Viney

 

Except that apparently it's a different injury to Viney's foot so it would seem we haven't "screwed Viney's foot by bringing him back too early."

However, I share your concern about Hogan. Presumably the only reason Weideman is in the selected 25 is for him to be a late replacement for Hogan should it be decided on Sunday that he's not actually ready. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

2 hours ago, PaulRB said:

Reckon big Max Gawn is set for a monster game on the weekend. looking forward to seeing how he responds.

The surgeon who screwed Hogan's collar bone back together also put a bolt in Max's elbow so he can't straighten it.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Goodwin on Viney: "We certainly feel that Jack has got some footy ahead of him. We're positive he'll play again this year".

Doesn't fill me with great confidence as a Melbourne supporter. In fact, I'm fearing the worst whilst trying to slap myself out of it.

 

 

[Drunkn167 5,093]

Stretch coming in for Viney, Hogan replacing Weideman.

Kennedy the carry-over emergency.

So the bench will be Brayshaw, Stretch, Hannah and Wagner.

Maynard and Sammy playing for Casey.

This might change tonight but that's the team as of right now.

[DubDee 26,669]

All those going on about the Lions midfield being one of the best around, where was that midfield during the:

70 pt loss to WC and 90 pt loss to Geelong, and 80 pt loss to Port?

they have 4-5 very good players, then a bunch of kids, no experienced fwds and very little depth in their worst 11 out of the 22.

no excuses

[DemonLad5 1,642]

12 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Goodwin on Viney: "We certainly feel that Jack has got some footy ahead of him. We're positive he'll play again this year".

Doesn't fill me with great confidence as a Melbourne supporter. In fact, I'm fearing the worst whilst trying to slap myself out of it.

 

 

Positive meaning certain. If he misses next week I'll be shocked

[jnrmac 20,360]

3 hours ago, rpfc said:

That's a relative statement. Yes, it functioned enough to win but we had 62 Inside 50s and had 26 scoring shots.

In our best wins: StK 55 and 30, Ess 55 and 27, WB 54 and 28, Adel 53 and 22, Coll 57 and 29, WCE 47 and 24, PA 62 and 23.

There is a lot of noise in those numbers but we were running at a better efficiency earlier in the year. And we have left ourselves a tiny bit exposed in those last two stirring wins with excellent starts that didn't get enough out of the domination.

A rough guide would be a shot at goal for every two entries and we didn't get that, so I do believe it can function much better.

Put this up last week. Shows our drop off in fwd line efficiency. Against StK it was better but was functioning better earlier in the year.....

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

14 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Positive meaning certain. If he misses next week I'll be shocked

How can you be sure?

Goody likes to use the word positive as 'hopeful' an awful lot.

 

[DemonLad5 1,642]

1 minute ago, stevethemanjordan said:

How can you be sure?

Goody likes to use the word positive as 'hopeful' an awful lot.

 

All I am sure of is that unless it's a season ending calibre injury, Viney isn't missing more than 1 week

[pineapple dee 2,892]

36 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

The surgeon who screwed Hogan's collar bone back together also put a bolt in Max's elbow so he can't straighten it.

Perhaps a bolt or two in Max' s neck.

[Copuchas 763]

20 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Positive meaning certain. If he misses next week I'll be shocked

The words quoted in http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-18/dees-hopeful-skipper-will-be-right-for-round-23 are "we're really positive"

The article makes it clear that the injury is different location wise to the plantar fascitis procedure but makes reference to recovery from it so one wonders if this latest injury is referred in nature due to Viney favouring the recovery from the pf operation.  Do we know if it's the same foot?