27 minutes ago, small but forward said:

We've all got eyes, but I trust Jason Taylor's eyes much more than mine. Hasn't got one wrong yet, and I'm confident in 12-18 months we will have a player taking us to our next flag

The thing is Weideman didn't play a whole lot of football in his underage years so we have probably seen more of him now than Taylor saw when he drafted him.

Was a risk and is looking like we missed the best option at that pick (Curnow). This was a pick that was based on potential more than output. Curnow would have been another pick on potential but the main difference between the two is athleticism which will forever hold Weideman back in my opinion. 

 

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

I hated Oscar at the beginning of the year. Believe in player development.

Was just thinking that Omac came really good almost overnight. Something just clicked. Is it confidence?

ANB not too dissimilar to Omac.

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Wonder how he'd go in a defensive role.

Dare I say it, but his temprement reminds me of a young jack watts. A different skill set yes, but he doesnt seem to have much grunt factor. Im not panicking....yet. But Im in the camp that says we really missed with Charlie Curnow call. Hoping we at least get a reasonable player here. Not convinced...hope Im worng. 

7 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Dare I say it, but his temprement reminds me of a young jack watts. A different skill set yes, but he doesnt seem to have much grunt factor. Im not panicking....yet. But Im in the camp that says we really missed with Charlie Curnow call. Hoping we at least get a reasonable player here. Not convinced...hope Im worng. 

Couldn't disagree more, though I didn't see today's game, the way that the Weed attacks the ball in the air says that they have very different temperaments at the same age. I am very confident that he will develop into a very good player

Goodwin in after game presser:

"I'm a pretty happy coach to have him in our forward 50"

Think he might snag a few against Brisbane

Liked him today. Contested well and brought the ball down. No surprise that the likes of ANB and Harmes got a spark with Weideman and Pedo crashing packs. Kicking goals and taking marks isn't a KPI for him atm. He needs to be a target and needs to contest at every aerial contest forward of centre.  Suspect he'll play out the year.

 

10 minutes ago, praha said:

Liked him today. Contested well and brought the ball down. No surprise that the likes of ANB and Harmes got a spark with Weideman and Pedo crashing packs. Kicking goals and taking marks isn't a KPI for him atm. He needs to be a target and needs to contest at every aerial contest forward of centre.  Suspect he'll play out the year.

 

He was better than his stats suggest, but he was structurally an 'out' kick today and nothing more. There was no marking and movement into space and certainly no link play. If Goodwin is a realist and if Watts can lift his form then Weideman is out. I know they are not the same type of player but we don't have a replacement for Hogan and Watts can be more effective than Weideman. If we are to do any damage in a months time, it will be with Watts in the team.

He reminds me of Mathew Pavlich's commentating.

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

Looked lost today. As a power forward Goodwin can't hang his hat on him being a good tackler.

Will he make it?

Of course he will make it.

He turned 20  a month or two ago.  How many times does it need to be said that big guys take time!!

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2 hours ago, SFebey said:

6 disposals, 4 clangers- not good enough IMO.

This graphic also belongs on the Jordan Lewis thread with the 'he's finished' comments.

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Not concerned about the Weed at all.  He demonstrates the desire, commitment and talent to be a good KPF for us going forward.

Im a little disappointed that he was playing this week, truth be told.  Would hve been happy for him to continue playing at VFL level for the remainder of the year where he was stringing together a good run of matches.

2 hours ago, Jibroni said:

From memory he missed of the preseason in his 1st year and agree he still too skinny for AFL. With a bigger body he wll get there.

Eat more Maccas and get fat?%*{}=+???

Carlisle had a field day on the Weeds, in fact aside from umpires he was what got them back in the game.

 

Weed has a good endeavour at times however it is blatantly obvious that he isn't fit enough for AFL. The kid can't even run out a quarter let alone a game at the moment.

He needs a brutal pre season otherwise we will see more of the same next year 

He hit a lot of aerial costs but just didn't take the mark desire getting hands on it. 

He attacks the ball at the highest point which means he is hard to spoil, but at the moment he doesn't have the body strength tho take those big pack marks.  If this strength and the resulting marking develops, he becomes a dangerous player.

I really think that this is the affect of his development that the coaching team are waiting for. For example, today he would have taken marks instead of 2 and we would have been singing his praises. He has a different skill set and strength to Hogan which will diversify the forward attack. 

I think anyone writing him off before he has developed the strength required to execute his key abilities is crazy. 

Many young players look uncertain because they're still learning to blend their natural game with the coach's instructions/game plan. Takes a long time, because they can't just go on pure instinct any more.

I understand that he competes well and all that but a Key position forward who doesn't kick goals is a liability for a team going into a finals campaign

Kid is a footballer. I am very confident he will make it. I think a few have seen what Hogan managed from day 1 and expect that anyone can do it.

He is gonna take time but will be a beauty.

I hate saying we need patience after so long without success, but...........

Patience.

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Goodwin in after game presser:

"I'm a pretty happy coach to have him in our forward 50"

Think he might snag a few against Brisbane

Praying might be a better description.

Goodwin made a point in his pre game press conf that they were 'going in small in some areas'.  Clearly this was the forward line.  So, Weideman's job was to contest and bring the ball to ground for the small forwards. 

Some supporters viewed his role as a tall forward ie to lead, mark and kick goals.

I can see why Goodwin was so rapt:  he followed coaching instructions and did the team thing.  The strategy worked as most (11?) goals were kicked by our the small forwards.

Hindsight shows we should have taken Curnow but at the game I thought Weideman was actually contesting quite well, he's just still far too small to really have an impact.

Edited August 13, 20177 yr by Clint Bizkit

Toumpas. V  Wines

Tyson Salem. V  Kelly

Oliver. V. Parish

 now Weideman v. Curnow

Hindsight is for dreaming 

I remember at the time thinking that Curnow had a great highlight reel but the fact he got done drink driving a week before draft night showed he's not the best decision maker and was a risk. Bolton has clearly had a good influence on him, and it's worked out in retrospect.

Weids with a bad ankle was a different risk and I'm sure the medicos looked closely before giving away pick 8/9 on him. He'll be a keeper, no worries at all.

This guy can clunk a grab at its highest point. A bit more consistency in games and more confidence will see him flying for them more often. 

I have no doubt in the club's development program, as well as Weideman's ability to play.

I say that without the rose coloured glasses and bias. Why?

- Tall forwards generally take longer to develop. 

- He will physically mature with age.

- He's shown some exciting glimpses of what he's capable of. 

- Tall forwards generally have patches of form (a few weeks on, a few weeks off).

- Even Josh Schake (pick 2, same draft) is currently out of form.