12 minutes ago, 58er said:

DeeTox 

Brown had injury and personal family  issues which affected his form.

Dont  remember Lockett or Dunstall Getting any more than 25% of their goals on the run! Far from it.

Will give other forwards a lift  as well as get 45/50 plus I think.

Hope so 58er!

1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

Whenever Brown played against us I'd be so frustrated that he kicked his four or more goals. Always looked after by the umpires. Jag a couple of assy goals from the pocket, etc.

Not sure what to make of him coming to Melbourne. Having a 200cm proven goalkicker is good in theory. I have my concerns though. Never been a natural footballer. He isn't the strongest guy overhead. Doesn't seem to kick goals on the run.  Not known for his defensive efforts.

Was last year's form only fitness related or symptomatic of where the game is at the moment?  I guess we'll wait and see!

Ben Brown has better career contested mark averages than Josh Kennedy, Jeremy Cameron and equal to Jack Darling. He is in the elite group of contested mark takers in the game and has a 67% goal scoring accuracy for shots on target. In the top handful goals per game scored. Cant get better than that in the modern game. 

Edited November 15, 20204 yr by america de cali

On 11/14/2020 at 9:26 AM, Dr. Gonzo said:

It's a joke mate, lighten up

"Joke" definition,

• n.
  Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
• " I suppose it made you guffaw when you made it"

Your reply is what bigots, xenophobes, homophobes and  sexists say when they're challenged.

 

Now if you want to read something that evokes laughter and amusement check out "What they’re saying in Lulie Street", the exchanges between "Trigon", "buck_nekkid and BBO are comedy gold!

 

Wait a minute ..... I might be getting this all "arze about" did you mean the other definition?

n.

Something that is of ludicrously poor quality.

16 minutes ago, dworship said:

"...........

Your reply is what bigots, xenophobes, homophobes and  sexists say when they're challenged.

.............

 

just asking for a friend, but which one (or more) of these do you think dr gonzo is? ?

 

18 hours ago, daisycutter said:

just asking for a friend, but which one (or more) of these do you think dr gonzo is? ?

 

all of the above clearly 

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

all of the above clearly 

oh well, could;ve been worse.....you could have been called a privileged white colonial ?

21 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Whenever Brown played against us I'd be so frustrated that he kicked his four or more goals. Always looked after by the umpires. Jag a couple of assy goals from the pocket, etc.

Not sure what to make of him coming to Melbourne. Having a 200cm proven goalkicker is good in theory. I have my concerns though. Never been a natural footballer. He isn't the strongest guy overhead. Doesn't seem to kick goals on the run.  Not known for his defensive efforts.

Was last year's form only fitness related or symptomatic of where the game is at the moment?  I guess we'll wait and see!

I suggest you watch the best of Ben Brown on AFL .com, he takes lots of overhead marks, most of his marks are taken at the highest point, do some research before making statements, about not being strong over head.

19 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

I suggest you watch the best of Ben Brown on AFL .com, he takes lots of overhead marks, most of his marks are taken at the highest point, do some research before making statements, about not being strong over head.

DeeTox look at my post re goals on the run and IMO I think Ben is at least as strong as Weid Tommy  Jesse Bailey and  Maxy.

I would say I think May and Lever are slightly stronger marks but it's the overall total taken that's important after alI.

I suspect your misgivings will be erased Both in strength and style of goals.

50 minutes ago, 58er said:

DeeTox look at my post re goals on the run and IMO I think Ben is at least as strong as Weid Tommy  Jesse Bailey and  Maxy.

I would say I think May and Lever are slightly stronger marks but it's the overall total taken that's important after alI.

I suspect your misgivings will be erased Both in strength and style of goals.

That's the problem with most people's opinion they don't take the time to research things, they just parrot what others say, Ben takes most of his marks at the highest point, this myth that he needs the ball on his chest is unfounded, I watched all his goals in 2018 video, and there are  heaps of overhead marks

Edited November 16, 20204 yr by don't make me angry

On 11/15/2020 at 12:39 PM, jumbo returns said:

Gun footballer??

Lordy.....

Yep, John Lord was a great footballer, too. Another Demon of note with a big heart.

3 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

That's the problem with most people's opinion they don't take the time to research things, they just parrot what others say, Ben takes most of his marks at the highest point, this myth that he needs the ball on his chest is unfounded, I watched all his goals in 2018 video, and there are  heaps of overhead marks

Congrats on looking on AFL.com and seeing all of Ben's 2018 goals. That's your research?

Well, as a well researched bloke that doesn't parrot what others say you'd know that Ben averages 1.6 contested marks a game and 2.2 marks inside 50 a game? Not big numbers for a stay at home full forward? And you'd know that from his nine games last year he didn't take a contested mark in six of them? So which is the true Ben Brown? The one you saw in video highlights  of in 2018 or last season? A similar argument could be used with Tom McDonald who had a great 2018, but we all agree had a shocking year this season. Statistically he was on par with Brown and most Demonlanders wanted him gone.

No where did I say Ben needs the ball on his chest. What I did say was he wasn't particularly strong overhead which is common knowledge among North supporters that watch him every week. What he is good at though is crafting goals through other means.

30 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Congrats on looking on AFL.com and seeing all of Ben's 2018 goals. That's your research?

Well, as a well researched bloke that doesn't parrot what others say you'd know that Ben averages 1.6 contested marks a game and 2.2 marks inside 50 a game? Not big numbers for a stay at home full forward? And you'd know that from his nine games last year he didn't take a contested mark in six of them? So which is the true Ben Brown? The one you saw in video highlights  of in 2018 or last season? A similar argument could be used with Tom McDonald who had a great 2018, but we all agree had a shocking year this season. Statistically he was on par with Brown and most Demonlanders wanted him gone.

No where did I say Ben needs the ball on his chest. What I did say was he wasn't particularly strong overhead which is common knowledge among North supporters that watch him every week. What he is good at though is crafting goals through other means.

Maybe the real Ben Brown is the one who kicked 180+ goals between 2017 to 2019 3 seasons of 60 + goals, Tmac only had 1 good year, so your going to judge 1 poor year over 3 great ones, his body of work is more the half a season playing injured, he takes lots marks above his head many times over 100 games, so you think just watching 9 games tells you all about a player, that's lazy and pathetic.l

Edited November 16, 20204 yr by don't make me angry

4 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Yep, John Lord was a great footballer, too. Another Demon of note with a big heart.

Not great but a very good player. Number 4, if I remember correctly who  went to East Ringwood in the EDFL as it was in the old days. 

On 11/15/2020 at 9:55 PM, dworship said:

"Joke" definition,

• n.
  Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
• " I suppose it made you guffaw when you made it"

Your reply is what bigots, xenophobes, homophobes and  sexists say when they're challenged.

 

Now if you want to read something that evokes laughter and amusement check out "What they’re saying in Lulie Street", the exchanges between "Trigon", "buck_nekkid and BBO are comedy gold!

 

Wait a minute ..... I might be getting this all "arze about" did you mean the other definition?

n.

Something that is of ludicrously poor quality.

And here we have a “blown out of proportion” type nuffie.

3 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Maybe the real Ben Brown is the one who kicked 180+ goals between 2017 to 2019 3 seasons of 60 + goals, Tmac only had 1 good year, so your going to judge 1 poor year over 3 great ones, his body of work is more the half a season playing injured, he takes lots marks above his head many times over 100 games, so you think just watching 9 games tells you all about a player, that's lazy and pathetic.l

You're true to you're name Angry, I'll give you that.

Labelling someone as lazy and pathetic because they don't agree with you tells me all I need to know. 

Random question, who was the last player to wear no 50 for us? And is there one player of note who’s worn it?

10 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Congrats on looking on AFL.com and seeing all of Ben's 2018 goals. That's your research?

Well, as a well researched bloke that doesn't parrot what others say you'd know that Ben averages 1.6 contested marks a game and 2.2 marks inside 50 a game? Not big numbers for a stay at home full forward? And you'd know that from his nine games last year he didn't take a contested mark in six of them? So which is the true Ben Brown? The one you saw in video highlights  of in 2018 or last season? A similar argument could be used with Tom McDonald who had a great 2018, but we all agree had a shocking year this season. Statistically he was on par with Brown and most Demonlanders wanted him gone.

No where did I say Ben needs the ball on his chest. What I did say was he wasn't particularly strong overhead which is common knowledge among North supporters that watch him every week. What he is good at though is crafting goals through other means.

60+ goals a season is about 3 per match. If BB is taking 1.6 contested marks per match that means he's likely getting half his goals from contested marks - not too bad eh?

On the other hand if he's taking 2.2 marks inside 50 per game then then about one of his 3 goals isn't coming from a mark.  Maybe from a free or maybe on the run?

In 2019 (full length games) WC Josh Kennedy's numbers were 1.3 CM and 2.9 I50 M for comparison.

 

5 hours ago, Pates said:

Random question, who was the last player to wear no 50 for us? And is there one player of note who’s worn it?

Robert Flower

10 minutes ago, durango said:

Robert Flower

I think Robbie wore 52 then 2?

Robert Flower did wear 50 52 and 2.

He never played a senior game in 50.

6 hours ago, Pates said:

Random question, who was the last player to wear no 50 for us? And is there one player of note who’s worn it?

Here you go: http://www.demonwiki.org/Number+50

Whether there are "players of note" is completely subjective, of course, although Neville Jetta did play one game in the #50 in 2017 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1967 Referendum.

On 11/14/2020 at 2:50 AM, special robert said:

Yes, next year the networks are even threatening to cut to an ad break as he starts his runup and then cut back in as he kicks the ball. A ten goal game could add up to as much as an extra 13 minutes of AAMI ads.

For the run up he has been told he is not allowed back past the centre line at the G if he marks the ball inside the 50.

He has asked to be allowed to go as far back as centre half back but this has been nipped in the bud by the coach worried his run up could actually extend all the way back to full back if he is allowed his natural game.

 

8 minutes ago, hardtack said:

 

brilliant. I love the original and subsequent scenes with John Cleese as sir Lancelot

On 11/14/2020 at 10:56 PM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Watching his highlights, I don't think it will matter if we kick it to him well or not.  He seems to track the ball through the air so well, time his launch and clunk the marks from everywhere, so I think that suits us well.

I think he's one of those who "catch it at its highest point"  :)

 

 

 

joke, I hate that phrase !

Edited November 17, 20204 yr by KysaiahMessiah
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Marks per game, tackles, contested marks... don’t care. He kicks lots of goals, he will kick lots of goals for us and is potentially pushing us well into the top 8, even top 4. He had a down year but if he gets back to the previous form we move to a genuine contender.