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8 minutes ago, TGR said:

Hawthorn are laughing all the way to the bank.  Hartung will never be a A-grade or B+ footballer.  Never.  Sam Mitchell is just past his prime and will retire in 1 year.  Lewis' decline will occur faster than most footballers.

 

When you come to the end of a dynasty, the tendency is to be ultra-loyal to your premiership heroes.  Geelong, bar Stevie J, did it, when they were forced to land a top-3 player about to enter his prime.  Brisbane kept their ageing stars, whereby Aker was forced out because he didn't conform...and there was the Bradshaw debacle for Fev.

 

Clarkson is a genius.  Mitchell is what 34.  In 18 months, he'll be in pasture.  But at least this 34 year old can move sideways in elite terms and has special awareness second-to-none.  Lewis is getting slower, and wasn't fast to begin with.  Hawthorn wont miss him in 12 months.  Actually, anybody that new anything about footy, came to Hawthorn's last game this year, knowing that the Bulldogs were going to treat them like wet cement.  Don't get me wrong, Hawthorn minus Hill, have our problem with less outside speed and run.  But Clarkson, if he can swindle pick 48 for an ageing one-dimensional 30 year old going on 36.....then it will be a decision that pushes them closer to their next window quicker.  The cocky eastern suburbs Hawthorn supporters may not like it in the short-term, but this strikes me as Croad mark II, so they will soon praise the decision.

 

 

As I said time and time again for the last 18 months, we are too one-paced and lack line-breakers.  This trade does nothing to improve it, only enhance it.

 

 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, TGR said:

Hawthorn are laughing all the way to the bank.  Hartung will never be a A-grade or B+ footballer.  Never.  Sam Mitchell is just past his prime and will retire in 1 year.  Lewis' decline will occur faster than most footballers.

 

When you come to the end of a dynasty, the tendency is to be ultra-loyal to your premiership heroes.  Geelong, bar Stevie J, did it, when they were forced to land a top-3 player about to enter his prime.  Brisbane kept their ageing stars, whereby Aker was forced out because he didn't conform...and there was the Bradshaw debacle for Fev.

 

Clarkson is a genius.  Mitchell is what 34.  In 18 months, he'll be in pasture.  But at least this 34 year old can move sideways in elite terms and has special awareness second-to-none.  Lewis is getting slower, and wasn't fast to begin with.  Hawthorn wont miss him in 12 months.  Actually, anybody that new anything about footy, came to Hawthorn's last game this year, knowing that the Bulldogs were going to treat them like wet cement.  Don't get me wrong, Hawthorn minus Hill, have our problem with less outside speed and run.  But Clarkson, if he can swindle pick 48 for an ageing one-dimensional 30 year old going on 36.....then it will be a decision that pushes them closer to their next window quicker.  The cocky eastern suburbs Hawthorn supporters may not like it in the short-term, but this strikes me as Croad mark II, so they will soon praise the decision.

 

 

As I said time and time again for the last 18 months, we are too one-paced and lack line-breakers.  This trade does nothing to improve it, only enhance it.

 

 

 

 

Man, you are a broken record. Bleating away the most poorly thought through tripe (sorry to mix my metaphors). 

Lewis brings a lot to the club in terms of leadership and attitude and there us nothing one dimensional about either our list or our approach. 

You should probably just head off and post on the Hawthorn forums where this kind of bull will be lapped up by the clarkson sycophants. 

^

Great.

21 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Probably half the reason they have salary cap problems,  wouldn't be cheap paying the umpires all season long......

Just reported on tv news that we want to give up pick 66 but hawks resisting ?

Lewis will be worth his weight in gold.  The stories, the training ethic, and the belief he'll be able to impart on our midfield will be enormous.  It's one thing having the coaches say we're building something special, but another to have a 4-time premiership peer to share their belief.

I do think Lewis is slowing down and was starting to get caught more than normal, but I also reckon he has enough footy left to walk in and be one of our top 3 mids.  Straight away he makes us better.  Lewis is a superb reader of the play, a ball magnet and very good user of the footy.  Just over a year ago he was AA, and in the final against Geelong he was Hawthorn's best player with 36 disposals.

Melbourne are developing an outnumber contested ball-winning team.  And Lewis will be super important in that pursuit for at least the next two years.

If you don't recognise the value he brings you haven't thought things through.

Edited October 17, 20169 yr by ProDee

5 minutes ago, Itsabouttohappen said:

Just reported on tv news that we want to give up pick 66 but hawks resisting ?

Wasnt it pick 48

7 minutes ago, Itsabouttohappen said:

Just reported on tv news that we want to give up pick 66 but hawks resisting ?

I reckon it will be pick 66 and a swap of 3rd round (48 for 57)

41 minutes ago, Demonland said:

ouch !!!!

I would happily trade 48 for Lewis..  if its 66 then even better.

Edited October 17, 20169 yr by Petraccattack

1 hour ago, TGR said:

Hawthorn are laughing all the way to the bank.  Hartung will never be a A-grade or B+ footballer.  Never.  Sam Mitchell is just past his prime and will retire in 1 year.  Lewis' decline will occur faster than most footballers.

 

When you come to the end of a dynasty, the tendency is to be ultra-loyal to your premiership heroes.  Geelong, bar Stevie J, did it, when they were forced to land a top-3 player about to enter his prime.  Brisbane kept their ageing stars, whereby Aker was forced out because he didn't conform...and there was the Bradshaw debacle for Fev.

 

Clarkson is a genius.  Mitchell is what 34.  In 18 months, he'll be in pasture.  But at least this 34 year old can move sideways in elite terms and has special awareness second-to-none.  Lewis is getting slower, and wasn't fast to begin with.  Hawthorn wont miss him in 12 months.  Actually, anybody that new anything about footy, came to Hawthorn's last game this year, knowing that the Bulldogs were going to treat them like wet cement.  Don't get me wrong, Hawthorn minus Hill, have our problem with less outside speed and run.  But Clarkson, if he can swindle pick 48 for an ageing one-dimensional 30 year old going on 36.....then it will be a decision that pushes them closer to their next window quicker.  The cocky eastern suburbs Hawthorn supporters may not like it in the short-term, but this strikes me as Croad mark II, so they will soon praise the decision.

 

 

As I said time and time again for the last 18 months, we are too one-paced and lack line-breakers.  This trade does nothing to improve it, only enhance it.

 

 

 

 

I don't think anyone has acused Hurting of being a A-grade or B+ footballer, he's bog ordinary in my opinion and if he was at another club he'd be labelled a dud, so I'm not sure what you are referring to, he's been one of their only reasonable selections in the draft in the last few years.

When you come to the end of a dynasty you need to recognise it before it ends, not after, they should have been working on this last year not this year, in fact probably the year before, Mitchell didn't go from 29 to 34 overnight, it happened over a 5 year period. If Clarkson is a genius he would have seen the writing on the wall after the GF last year, if he is a genius you will see it in the way the Hawks recover without a batch of superstars picked up over a couple of drafts.

You fail to understand the significance of Lewis coming to Melbourne and for someone like you that has a fair amount of "self belief" I find that extraordinary.

Did you see the way The Bont, knocked the ball out of Hodges hands as he was about to handball it in the final, that didn't show much special self awareness then, did he.

1 hour ago, FlashInThePan said:

 

Man, you are a broken record. Bleating away the most poorly thought through tripe (sorry to mix my metaphors). 

Lewis brings a lot to the club in terms of leadership and attitude and there us nothing one dimensional about either our list or our approach. 

You should probably just head off and post on the Hawthorn forums where this kind of bull will be lapped up by the clarkson sycophants. 

 I think the author is confusing Jordan Lewis, the still elite AFL player with Joe Lewis, the American heavyweight boxer who undoubtedly should not have fought on against Rocky Marciano,

3 minutes ago, Dante said:

 special self awareness then, did he.

I'm almost certain that Ron was meaning to say "spacial awareness", but an auto correct got in the way.

Pick 66 plus JKH is what im hearing!!

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Pick 66 plus JKH is what im hearing!!

That won't happen. JKH is seen to have a big future with us by some in the FD. 

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That won't happen. JKH is seen to have a big future with us by some in the FD. 

lol, i cannot see that happening, after all they just gave away their captain for pick 88 and he was the best and fairest winner, why would we be giving pick 66 and a young potentially good player for the guy that came second.  no, back to the drawing board hawks.

15 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Pick 66 plus JKH is what im hearing!!

Could see this happening if we're looking to free up a list spot. In the few years on the list, shown very few AFL level attributes. 

20 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Pick 66 plus JKH is what im hearing!!

Hope you're wrong as usual picket because that would be a reaming for us. Pick 66 ok.

29 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I'm almost certain that Ron was meaning to say "spacial awareness", but an auto correct got in the way.

Spatial even!

Pick 66 on its own should be enough, frankly. I'd say that's what the hold up is; Hawthorn would be pushing for more than we're offering because they would've taken a third rounder and run had we offered it.

As a side note...

Lewis gets more hitouts than Vickery.

Come to think of it, he also kicked 27 goals one season, which is only just shy of Vickery's best (36, back in 2011).

So maybe Lewis is the forward-ruck we've been missing?

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

Spatial even!

Yes.

Well done you !

2 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

As a side note...

Lewis gets more hitouts than Vickery.

Come to think of it, he also kicked 27 goals one season, which is only just shy of Vickery's best (36, back in 2011).

So maybe Lewis is the forward-ruck we've been missing?

More hitouts!? Hilarious, Vickery really is shite!

16 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

More hitouts!? Hilarious, Vickery really is shite!

Hawthorn cheer squad already preparing that for Round 1 banner.