THE BOMBERS' DOPING SAGA - THE FAT LADY SINGS

[Sir Why You Little 34,717]

2 hours ago, willmoy said:

There are so many characters for a best selling TV series, the question is would Danny DeVito, Chevvy and Jim Carrey be interested.....

HBO must be seriously considering at least 8 seasons, with possibly still more to come!

[Redleg 37,909]

On 19/02/2017 at 0:56 PM, grazman said:

While I know you're tongue is in you cheek Red, sadly it's there because the AFL are unlikely to do what the NRL and IOC do when it comes to cheating and that is take away the rewards for those that are exposed as breaking the rules.

More's the pity. 

[jnrmac 19,226]

On 2/17/2017 at 6:05 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hird had some early lessons in cheating it seems.

The AFL should take the 2000 premiership off them, and give it to us

They were fined for cheating the salary cap in 1993 as well. Cheating bastaards

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

Sydney Swans, Lance Franklin, Luke Parker fined for breaking drug rules

Phew! Talk about tough on drugs.

Don't cross the AFL when it comes to drugs or you won't know what hit you.

It just shows, the AFL are determined to penalise any infringement when it comes to drugs in sport. Even the smallest infringement!

[rjay 23,970]

Here we go again...good old Robbo's mob at the Sun.

Wow, I wonder were this came from????

The Herald Sun are reporting "Bombshell Rocks the AFL" secret tape emerges.

Some people should give up and let the club get back on it's feet, couldn't care less about EFC myself but ones that profess to have a funny way of showing it...

 

Edited February 23, 2017 by rjay

[Demon Disciple 11,082]

Hate the EFC with a passion. They got what they deserved.

But the head honchos at AFL headquarters are as corrupt as FIFA under Blatter. Would not trust Gil for a second. I would love to see that he gets what's coming to him too.

What's worse, is that the fat one has been able to wipe his hands and break away from all this cleanly. Him and Gil can be cell buddies for corruption and perverting the course of justice.

[TRIGON 4,719]

The fat lady gets another encore?

[Wells 11 4,840]

Its frikn unbelievable this resurfaces it really is. These c#ckheads at the Sun and at EFC ( is there a difference?) dont know when to take a break.

It 100% exposes that a Gil spoke of a deal  with the bombers that he had to change. Thats IT. Is it a scandal that the head of the AFL would try to do a deal to get a club off after it had monstrously flouted the most important rules in the game? . Yes. But we all already knew that and that this thing stunk. 

Does it in any way show that the EFC didnt drug their players ...no. Does it any way clear any of them ...no. All It shows their utter arrogance and outrage at being confronted by their own cheating. And how they are determined to get back at Gil for having the temerity to try and save them somehow. Somehow the story their spinning is how Gil backed down from his "deal" not that the bombers were drugging their players????  

In some ways I think the dees had a small part in this. We lay down so easily over the tanking "scandal" that Gil thought he knew how to handle things. He accepted a "not guilty" from us but let the papers shame us unmercifully before and since. With the bombers the deal was the opposite. You accept guilty ( because we cant possibly rescue you from this) and we'll make sure the penalty is as small as possible and that the press support you. ie  we'll try to make it go away. 

He forgot that the bombers had way more money than we did and were prepared to sacrifice several million to save face. But in the end...the players were still doped, Drugs were still  in the club and being injected into the players. Forget the word "supplliments". I wish ASADA had banned the team for a year ....and I wish Gil wasnt such a [censored] and saw past his own need to have a " no mess" situation and get how SERIOUS performance enhancing drugs in football really is. 

Can we ban the sun for a year too? sheesh....this stroy made me angry

[biggestred 4,357]

Have no records of what players were injected with 100s of times

 

Have a recording of a meetinf 4 years ago

Righto

[ArtificialWisdom 3,897]

Bomber Thompson: "We need to find out what actually happened not just believe whats in the report"
Paul Little: "Theres no time for that"

[censored] with a chairman with an attitude like that i have no idea why they had any issues. 

[Sir Why You Little 34,717]

16 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Bomber Thompson: "We need to find out what actually happened not just believe whats in the report"
Paul Little: "Theres no time for that"

[censored] with a chairman with an attitude like that i have no idea why they had any issues. 

Should have all been banned for 5 years

the whole club

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,505]

I haven't heard the tape but I have read Mick Warner's story. Two things struck me:

• who recorded that meeting and why? (That's more interesting to me than who gave it to Mick Warner and why now)  
• there appears to be no discussion amongst the four (Little, Hird, Thompson, Corcoran) that they needed to cop their right whack. Which means they were either all delusional or all convinced of the club's innocence

I realise that Warner's story is based on a tape which may not include everything said. But I'm confident that if any of the four had said anything that was anywhere close to admitting guilt, that would have been the main story. So, are they all delusional? Can circumstances such as this lead four otherwise successful and determined individuals to become delusional? 

[daisycutter 28,641]

what new info i learned from audio tape

ZILCH ZERO NIL

[biggestred 4,357]

2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I haven't heard the tape but I have read Mick Warner's story. Two things struck me:

• who recorded that meeting and why? (That's more interesting to me than who gave it to Mick Warner and why now)  
• there appears to be no discussion amongst the four (Little, Hird, Thompson, Corcoran) that they needed to cop their right whack. Which means they were either all delusional or all convinced of the club's innocence

I realise that Warner's story is based on a tape which may not include everything said. But I'm confident that if any of the four had said anything that was anywhere close to admitting guilt, that would have been the main story. So, are they all delusional? Can circumstances such as this lead four otherwise successful and determined individuals to become delusional? 

Or they just didnt want to be actually punished... like a schoolboy who gets busted having a smoke. It wasnt me i didnt do it you cant prove it i dont deserve to be punished

[ManDee 7,091]

Who found the 34 players guilty of drug cheating? 

Was it the AFL?

Could the AFL CEO guarantee no penalties?

Could the AFL overrule any penalty applied by CAS?

This shows how ill informed the EFC were about ASADA and anti doping rules. They should have known that  AFL football was in the bailiwick of ASADA and that ASADA could act independently of the AFL and that the AFL held no sway over ASADA -WADA. They should have known that the world governing anti doping body had the power to get them if they breached the rules. To complain about the AFL breaking their word is more obfuscation from the EFC. The AFL's word is irrelevant as they did not find EFC guilty of drug cheating. No claim is made that they did not cheat. No claim is made that they were innocent. The only conclusion I draw from this is they knew they were guilty but thought the AFL would not ban their players. That is what happened. How with any integrity can they complain about the AFL when the AFL had no say in the outcome? How is it that all records are lost except a recording of a conversation about another conversation, at best hearsay, Little may have been lying to bolster the troops. 

More smoke from the EFC and its sycophants.

[Chris 2,892]

57 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Bomber Thompson: "We need to find out what actually happened not just believe whats in the report"
Paul Little: "Theres no time for that"

[censored] with a chairman with an attitude like that i have no idea why they had any issues. 

And then the idiot goes on to claim he is doing everything for the well being of the players! Wouldn't knowing what actually happened be number 1 of the list of things you would do if you were interested int eh well being of the players. Not to mention that this is 6 months after the story broke and they still haven't started to work out what is going on.

Just confirms again that they really don't care for the players and were in it for themselves from day 1.

[beelzebub 22,269]

Hilarious

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,186]

I just don't get it.  

How do some people not see that:

a) Dank is a nutcase and was given too much freedom without sufficient checks.  This is an acknowledged fact by all sides but seems to get lost when some are looking to point fingers of blame.

b) He gave the players banned substances.  You can argue all you want about what the players knew, but Dank sourced it, purchased it, imported it- with the intention of using it.

c) The AFL had no motivation to see Essendon found guilty.

d) The AFL had no motivation for the ordeal to drag on for years.

e) The 'saga' spread over 2 governments and 4 prime ministers- it was apolitical.

f) The only body to clear the players was the AFL tribunal.  Every other legal and sporting/anti-doping body found they had done wrong.

 

Most Essendon people don't want this dragged up again- the people who do refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing by the club at all- even having Dank running amok.

We can laugh at them from afar but I don't want Melksham and Hibberd focusing on anything other than football for the Dees.

Edited February 24, 2017 by TeamPlayedFine39
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[The Chazz 4,077]

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Should have all been banned for 5 years

the whole club

Who would be our coach if this happened?

[Sir Why You Little 34,717]

51 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Who would be our coach if this happened?

Don't care about that we get someone else. 

Edited February 24, 2017 by Sir Why You Little

[hemingway 7,601]

4 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Bomber Thompson: "We need to find out what actually happened not just believe whats in the report"
Paul Little: "Theres no time for that"

[censored] with a chairman with an attitude like that i have no idea why they had any issues. 

Not a surprising comment from a businessman and president that was used to getting his own way, without consultation or consideration of the views of others, and also without any concern for the truth. Sound like someone else currently in the news. Powerful people think they get their own way through force of personality and position. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,186]

2 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Not a surprising comment from a businessman and president that was used to getting his own way, without consultation or consideration of the views of others, and also without any concern for the truth. Sound like someone else currently in the news. Powerful people think they get their own way through force of personality and position. 

Little was, without a doubt, the worst possible choice on God's green earth to fill that position at that stage.  His pugnacious, bullying attitude works when you're the most powerful person in the room, however outside of Essendon, Melbourne, Victoria and ultimately Australia- his voice meant nothing.  They needed someone who was a strong communicator, diplomatic and most importantly, someone who could inspire empathy... he was and still is none of these things. 

[Satyriconhome 9,993]

Nah I reckon the other article where the MP wants a Senate enquiry into the AFL, the government at the time and ASADA            yes please

[Satyriconhome 9,993]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Don't care about that we get someone else. 

???????

[Return to Glory 7,779]

13 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Hate the EFC with a passion. They got what they deserved.

But the head honchos at AFL headquarters are as corrupt as FIFA under Blatter. Would not trust Gil for a second. I would love to see that he gets what's coming to him too.

What's worse, is that the fat one has been able to wipe his hands and break away from all this cleanly. Him and Gil can be cell buddies for corruption and perverting the course of justice.

But he cuts quite the figure on the Polo field. I don't understand your reservations.