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3 hours ago, stuie said:

Just going to leave this here for anyone saying Boomer would give us things we don't already have....

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I like Kent but don't forget boomer still receives a higher quality defender or tag more frequently

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Another stat for you Stuie

Brent Harvey - Brownlow votes - 187. 15 in 2014, 4 in 2015, ? in 2016. 

Dent Kent - Brownlow votes - 0. 0 in 2014, 0 in 2015, ? In 2016...

just the same really.

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I think most peoples hate for him stems from him ripping us a new one every time we played NM.

Those opposed to getting him, what harm would it do?  Do you really think getting Harvey would make us take a step backwards?

I have read most opposed think he is not a leader, if that is the case then people will not follow his selfish on field habits will they?  They will follow the role models they have been following.  Why all of a sudden would they start playing selfishly just because he has joined the team?  I just do not understand this logic.

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2 hours ago, AzzKikA said:

Those opposed to getting him, what harm would it do?

It takes a space on our list away from someone we could develop, possibly for the next decade. Harvey doesn't add leadership, he's doesn't add anything to the list or fill any holes, and he's 38 years old FCS.

We are not that desperate.

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1 hour ago, mauriesy said:

It takes a space on our list away from someone we could develop, possibly for the next decade. Harvey doesn't add leadership, he's doesn't add anything to the list or fill any holes, and he's 38 years old FCS.

We are not that desperate.

This really is a agree to disagree topic.

 

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1 hour ago, mauriesy said:

It takes a space on our list away from someone we could develop, possibly for the next decade. Harvey doesn't add leadership, he's doesn't add anything to the list or fill any holes, and he's 38 years old FCS.

We are not that desperate.

Doesn't fill any holes?  Which Melbourne midfield have you been watching?  We've got two players in the side with pace (Hunt & Garlett) and neither of them play in the midfield where games are won and lost.  Boomer as a high half forward / wingman definitely fills a hole.

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2 hours ago, mauriesy said:

It takes a space on our list away from someone we could develop, possibly for the next decade. Harvey doesn't add leadership, he's doesn't add anything to the list or fill any holes, and he's 38 years old FCS.

We are not that desperate.

Maurie for mine if you look at the Dawks you can see it is much easier to let other develop a player and then look to bring them in ready made. I've said it a few times but if one of our young blokes can't get a game before someone like Harvey they won't win us a game either. hopefully it pushes them to work harder to get in front of him. Not saying I could stomach him in red and blue but if he helps us win 2-3 more games next year... bingo!

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Every player well into their 30s will at some time reach the point where they can no longer do what they used to do or at the same level. They lose pace, they lose the willpower to keep going, and get injured more frequently. It's why they end up retiring.

For many it comes fairly quickly, as Essendon found with, for example Fletcher. I suspect Hawthorn will find out at some stage with players like Mitchell, Gibson and Lewis.

Given that Harvey will turn 39 not long after the start of the 2017 season (May), the chances get even higher that he will start to lose a yard of pace, get injured more often and miss games.

I just don't see why we should willingly put ourselves in that type of scenario for very little benefit. North Melbourne didn't.

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I lean the other way. He'll cost nothing and make us a better side. He could be the difference between making and missing the 8, that's how tight spots will be. Yes it might not lead to a premiership but what's stopping us from having a run like the Bulldogs and building confidence if we did make it? 

GWS wouldn't even think twice if they had their time again with Stevie J. 

Yes to Boomer

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Would it be such a travesty to have him mentor Ben Kennedy and any other crumbing forwards or half forwards that can push into the midfield, to teach them a good off-field work ethic for one year? Or do we want BK or JKH to drift off and be delisted in 2 years? I think he can have a net-positive impact on the fringe players around him irrespective of whether his output is 80-90% of what it is this year. 80-90% would still put him in the 22.

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20 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Would it be such a travesty to have him mentor Ben Kennedy and any other crumbing forwards or half forwards that can push into the midfield, to teach them a good off-field work ethic for one year? Or do we want BK or JKH to drift off and be delisted in 2 years? I think he can have a net-positive impact on the fringe players around him irrespective of whether his output is 80-90% of what it is this year. 80-90% would still put him in the 22.

Does he have to be a player to teach them the things you've mentioned DT? 

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6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Does he have to be a player to teach them the things you've mentioned DT? 

He doesn't have to. But the 1 year player contract would be part of the coaching contract. If he's in our best 22 then he will be contributing on-field as well.

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Harvey still has something to offer a team in the premiership window, but I can't see what he would do for a year at a club such as us. He's not a genuine leader, he's not going to mentor a talented youngster on our list, and he's not going to be the difference between us making the finals next year and not. Pass.

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9 minutes ago, poita said:

Harvey still has something to offer a team in the premiership window, but I can't see what he would do for a year at a club such as us. He's not a genuine leader, he's not going to mentor a talented youngster on our list, and he's not going to be the difference between us making the finals next year and not. Pass.

No one in their right mind would have suggested that GWS were in a premiership window this year, just as no one thought the the Bulldogs would be contenders after 2014 upheavel.

Would you have classed Stevie J as a genuine leader? Most thought he was going to GWS for a pension, but like Harvey, he can turn a game.

A big yes for me.

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1 minute ago, mo64 said:

No one in their right mind would have suggested that GWS were in a premiership window this year, just as no one thought the the Bulldogs would be contenders after 2014 upheavel.

Would you have classed Stevie J as a genuine leader? Most thought he was going to GWS for a pension, but like Harvey, he can turn a game.

A big yes for me.

Harvey is not Stevie J.

We are not GWS.

This comparison is totally irrelevant.

 

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