MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 19

[dazzledavey36 48,929]

32 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Got a bite, that was too easy, thanks precious, you have emailed the Footy Dept on their atrocious selections this year I take it?

Offering your services as a footy oracle?

Most of the players have me blocked but if you like a photo though do let me know

I'm shocked..

In all seriousness glad to hear the players have taken this stance. As a young kid nothing scary then a creepy old man in a beard stallking and commenting on everything on your personal life which you were doing.

Thats actually cheered me up now! Well done Sats..

[Willmoy1947 3,801]

A little bit off the subject a bit, but what about last looks at certain players with transfer value seeing as we shouldn't make the Finals now?

[PaulRB 5,974]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

What's the deal with Oliver? Don't understand why he's languishing in the VFL is it just his fitness?

ANB very stiff doesn't do a kids confidence any good when he's dropped after one game, happened a couple of times this year I think. Should be given a block of games to show whether he is worth persevering with.

Bwahaha

I think Oliver's lack of a tank started to effect the way he played and could play, leading to habits that were detrimental to his development creeping in. Several have noted he wasn't kicking and given his engine issues I suspect he was strugging to spread as well. so playing him at Casey to build engine and have capacity to develop the outside aspects of his game may be the reason...?   

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Lol Saty you can always try to lure them with Pokemon. I can picture you dressed up as Pickachu hiding in some bushes at Casey fields hoping someone will throw their balls at you  

[Demons11 6,404]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

What a strange change, surely ANB deserves more than one game?

Surely he needs to show something when he plays 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

37 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Surely he needs to show something when he plays 

He's shown no less than Oscar McDonald, that's what's confusing.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Clint Bizkit

[Demons11 6,404]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I'd agree with you if vandenBerg was fit, I don't think he is.

Do you really think he would be playing if he wasn't fit?

I'm happy with the 1 change 

[DubDee 20,890]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Got a bite, that was too easy, thanks precious, you have emailed the Footy Dept on their atrocious selections this year I take it?

Offering your services as a footy oracle?

Most of the players have me blocked but if you like a photo though do let me know

The site could do without your trolling Saty. If you have something to say to someone that is not footy related I suggest PMing them so threads don't get derailed with nonsense. 

[Moonshadow 16,275]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Got a bite, that was too easy, thanks precious, you have emailed the Footy Dept on their atrocious selections this year I take it?

Offering your services as a footy oracle?

Most of the players have me blocked but if you like a photo though do let me know

Do you not see that you are a troll? Quite sad really.

[What 18,810]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

Most of the players have me blocked 

LOL.   Please let us know why.  

[dazzledavey36 48,929]

50 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Do you not see that you are a troll? Quite sad really.

Of course he is a troll. If it was me doing it or even yourself then we would be in the dog house having a holiday.. but not Saty.. Gets away with whatever he wants because his 'training threads' are so valuable to Demonland..

Spare me

[Ethan Tremblay 28,443]

46 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

LOL.   Please let us know why.  

I heard he sent Rohan Bail a naked selfie.

[DemonOX 8,541]

2 hours ago, willmoy said:

A little bit off the subject a bit, but what about last looks at certain players with transfer value seeing as we shouldn't make the Finals now?

I would prefer to win. 

[Binmans PA 26,268]

7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

ANB should be phoning his manager tonight exploring opportunities.

He showed a bit last week and deserved at least another week.

I suspect maybe that call was already made well before this evening. Last week may well have been his last game with the MFC.

6 hours ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

I cannot understand how Roos can spout on about picking an in form team and then drop a player for a guy who is not in form?

Paul Roos is a politician. Take most things he says with a grain of salt.

6 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

Thought ANB showed enough to hold his spot

Think VDB has shown nothing all year. Hasn't looked right at any stage

And Vandenberg is a limited fringer who for some reason is vastly overrated on Demonland. He's hard at it, but what else does he offer?

[Binmans PA 26,268]

6 hours ago, praha said:

Good to see OMac keep his place.

Sick of know-it-alls who want a drop a young kid and replace him with experienced players who contribute little to the team's development.

Club having its best year in a decade and people are calling for the head of a kid who has been a regular player in that side. 

Anyone who prefers Dunn over OMac needs their brain checked.

Had a bad week last week, but I think OMac has made really big strides this year. Those first two games last year were shocking. But he's looked at home for the majority of the year. He needs to build his contested game, but aside from last week, he's been pretty good all year, IMO. An important development year for him. Pity we haven't managed to get more games into Frost down back...

6 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

ANB out after one game again to make way for an unfit Vandenburg who is in rubbish form this year. Yet another poor decision by the selection panel. They have been woeful this season.

They clearly have their favourites, but they usually align with mine, so I've been pretty happy with the selections this season.

6 hours ago, P-man said:

Firstly the last decade is hardly a high bar, and secondly O Mac has looked out of his depth most weeks, as was the case again last week. He's been a detriment in defence regardless of results. It's no slight on him. He just isn't ready to compete against AFL key forwards and is hesitant in most of what he does.

Winning games is good for development. If you genuinely think O Mac is doing as good or a better job than what seasoned AFL defenders in Garland or Dunn would do, then we're in disagreement. But I won't label you a "know-it-all" because of it as I learned at about the age of 10 that disagreement is okay.

I'd however remind you and others that every selection decision can make a difference. We lost the game last week by one scoring shot. 

I really have no words for dropping ANB after one game when we're playing him out of his natural position only to bring in AVB whose doing next to nothing to justify a spot and on the back of no VFL form.

I think I'll take WB's advice and give up worrying about selections. There's rarely been a week where they've all made sense.

I think the FD are just doing what they think is best for the long term and IMO short term of the club. I think I disagree with you P. Garland or Dunn playing ahead of OMac gets us nowhere. Not once this year has OMac cost us a game, so despite some people thinking he's a liability, I'd much prefer OMac continue to hone his craft at AFL level, rather than watch Dunn and Garland fail to play to the new system with their scars and decision making frailties. I just don't think that gets us anywhere. And there's no way playing Dunn or Garland a few more times this year would have equated to more wins. If anyone believes that, I guess we disagree again.

6 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Hoping we see Oliver back in this year. He's one of your best talents and since the club is going down the path of pumping games into kids regardless of form then he should be at the top of the list.

Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Viney. That's our midfield core for the next decade right there.

I think the FD feel they messed up Brayshaw's development year a little bit and are being extra cautious with Oliver. Given Clarry's limited TOG and his diminishing returns, I think they've played him pretty well. No use continuing to play him when he clearly needs a larger fitness base. But ultimately, I'm with you. I'd love to see him out there and I can't wait to see Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw and Viney all in the same team. Then we're cooking!

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I never thought I would see you post such heresy.......whatever would DD, Picket and SWYL think, of course they know better than everybody else

Do you ever post on footy or is it always about other posters?

5 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

He certainly has and, as you say, he admitted it as such.  He's almost made terrific selections as well and backed some younger players who have come good.  It takes some courage (and a little piece of insanity) to back someone like Oscar, or a Jayden Hunt, put in most instances he has been on the money.

Just quietly, though - I'm surprised Oscar got another run this week.  Thought he was beaten a little easy in the contest by Kennedy and Lycett, and I thought they might turn to a Garland or Dunn instead.  The decision to stick with him will either be a ripper or blow up in their faces.  I sure hope it's not the latter.

If this FD has backed a player a couple of times, they've usually let them bounce back after a down week. I think they've laid down the challenge to Oscar to respond. I think he'll be alright this week. And even if he gets beaten, I don't see it being an egg on their face situation. 

Edited July 29, 2016 by AdamFphlebeb

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm shocked..

In all seriousness glad to hear the players have taken this stance. As a young kid nothing scary then a creepy old man in a beard stallking and commenting on everything on your personal life which you were doing.

Thats actually cheered me up now! Well done Sats..

Sorry DD it was a joke in fact a couple of them follow me on Twitter    I exchanged tweets with Maxy Gawn on Sunderland the other day  sorry

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

The site could do without your trolling Saty. If you have something to say to someone that is not footy related I suggest PMing them so threads don't get derailed with nonsense. 

Sorry sheriff   for a minute there I thought it was a public forum

I was actually commenting on Wiseblood's post, in a humouous way, remember humour, nah probably don"t    you dont have to read my posts 

Wasn't me who trolled in the reply

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Do you not see that you are a troll? Quite sad really.

Just a bit of fun Moon nice to see you are still reading my posts   don't really care what you think

[SaberFang 7,141]

11 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Sorry DD it was a joke in fact a couple of them follow me on Twitter

Well, how could Truck not follow you with zingers like this?

 

 

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

8 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Well, how could Truck not follow you with zingers like this?

 

 

I got a comment from Trac re the post, very uncomplimentary!!!!!

Edited July 29, 2016 by Satyriconhome

[dazzledavey36 48,929]

7 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Well, how could Truck not follow you with zingers like this?

 

 

Yuk

[Boots and all 895]

On 28/07/2016 at 0:41 PM, hemingway said:

i think we need to move on from Dawes and move with Pedersen or look to 2017 by blooding one of the youngsters.

Agree, even when fit CD offers very little, move on. He simply cannot take a mark and I find his disposal really poor as well. I prefer Pedersen, but like Dawes struggles to impact on a game. I don't see much to lose in blooding either of Hullett or Weiderman.

[jnrmac 19,099]

21 hours ago, P-man said:

I'm bitterly disappointed with the result last week, but it's worth recognising we played some great footy at times. There's no doubting our contest has gone up a level again this season and the stats support that. Ball movement particularly to create scoring opportunities remains a slower work in progress.

Last week really hurt. That would've been a massive notch in the belt for the season. As it stands, we didn't get it. Like every loss it needs to be used as motivation. We need to get the job done this week the same as against Brisbane and Fremantle.

9 wins remains a pass mark for mine and that's still firmly in sight.

Which makes the GC game critical. After that Hawthorn, Port at Adelaide, Carlton at the G and the Cats at Kardina. The Cats we have beaten once from the last 11 games, the Blues once from the last 9 games, Port twice form the last 7 and the Hawks have beaten us the last 13 games. 9 games is a stretch and would bevery good if we could get it beating two of those teams.

While we are undoubtedly playing better than recent years our win/loss record is still poor. Our three losses to Essendon and St Kilda have hurt us badly. We haven't beaten anyone inside the eight and if we finish on 7 wins it would be my view that our year has been disappointing. Particulalry when PJ and ROos were aiming for finals.

 

 

[old dee 22,930]

3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Which makes the GC game critical. After that Hawthorn, Port at Adelaide, Carlton at the G and the Cats at Kardina. The Cats we have beaten once from the last 11 games, the Blues once from the last 9 games, Port twice form the last 7 and the Hawks have beaten us the last 13 games. 9 games is a stretch and would bevery good if we could get it beating two of those teams.

While we are undoubtedly playing better than recent years our win/loss record is still poor. Our three losses to Essendon and St Kilda have hurt us badly. We haven't beaten anyone inside the eight and if we finish on 7 wins it would be my view that our year has been disappointing. Particulalry when PJ and ROos were aiming for finals.

 

 

Spot on jnr.

Tomorrow sets our season IMO anything less than a win means we have come bugger all distance in 2016.

[PaulRB 5,974]

16 hours ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

I suspect maybe that call was already made well before this evening. Last week may well have been his last game with the MFC.

Paul Roos is a politician. Take most things he says with a grain of salt.

And Vandenberg is a limited fringer who for some reason is vastly overrated on Demonland. He's hard at it, but what else does he offer?

I rate Vandenberg as a big powerful mid capable of kicking goals and punishing teams that reminds me of Swans Kennedy. And his improvement in his almost two years on the list has been as good as any.

23 games in, big fan