JUDGEMENT DAY - THE "BOMBER" 34

[binman 38,430]

5 minutes ago, Chris said:

Here is a pearly of a comment from the delusionals on the Hun site.

"I cannot believe they can be convicted fairly when the standard of proof is 'reasonably satisfied'. This is a complete nonsense.  So without any positive drug tests the body adjudicating the case can 'feel' that the vibe is that they are guilty.  

 

Until the standard of proof is at the very least on the 'balance of probability' (civil jurisdiction) then the AFL must walk away from WADA and the Court of  arbitration for sport."

Maybe News limited is paying for the appeal. Apart from the lawyers they have the most to gain from this dragging on.

I'm only half joking

[SaberFang 7,141]

I suppose getting the EFC to fund the appeal makes the most sense. No out-of-pocket legal fees, and no harm done if the decision isn't overturned because you can still turn around and sue EFC anyway.

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

The entertainment keeps rolling on. Will it never end?

I'm starting to hope they get their injunction and have to start their suspension all over again!

And that Jobe gets to keep his medal only to have the AFL rip it off him months later due to public outcry.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,035]

28 minutes ago, Chris said:

The Australian and Hun reporting the appeal is on with most of the 34 joining in and it is all being funded by the EFC. I would love to what grounds they are appealing on?

Hopefully Melksham sees sense and just takes the 12 months off and doesn't risk the extra year, especially if an injunction isn't granted and he has to sit out this year anyway.

I have a sneaky suspicion that if they do get an injunction and play this year then the booing of Goodes last year will seem like a welcome home celebration in comparison to what these boys will get.

If it is that they are all nongs who don't take any responsibility for their actions, then they have very strong grounds ... 

[daisycutter 28,569]

Just now, Red and Bluebeard said:

If it is that they are all nongs who don't take any responsibility for their actions, then they have very strong grounds ... 

i'd say it was the vibe of whole thing........and the constitution.....and mabo.....

[Sir Why You Little 34,555]

Pop Corn?

[biggestred 4,316]

Appealing on the grounds that the case shouldn't have been heard de novo.

Uh guys

Probably  should have raised that at the start

[SaberFang 7,141]

So trying to get off on a technicality. Tsk, tsk. 

Take your medicine you guilty pricks.

[sue 8,441]

I love the line that the players took nothing illegal and if they did then they were duped by Dank.   The former has been decided against them by CAS.  The latter calls for only one response -  sue Dank.

[beelzebub 22,225]

who is Sue Dank ??

[ManDee 7,089]

It's understood the players have not sought an injunction, meaning they will remain suspended this year.

Essendon saga: Players to appeal to Swiss court against Court of Arbitration for Sport verdict

So they will miss the season. What do they stand to gain? This is a lawyer driven money fest. If they win they will sue everyone, if they lose they will sue the AFL & EFC in the mean time the lawyers pocket the money. 

This is a disgrace. Another year stuffed up by the drug cheats, I hope they get a greater penalty if that is possible.

 

[beelzebub 22,225]

29 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Appealing on the grounds that the case shouldn't have been heard de novo.

Uh guys

Probably  should have raised that at the start

Does anything show any clearer just how stupid this lot are ?

Idiots !!

[Lucifers Hero 37,106]

Had a browse on bfessendon to see the reaction to the appeal and noticed this from none other than out occasional interloper, 'Lance Uppercut':  "...And yeah, I've been pretty open about the fact I think the CAS probably came to the right decision, but got there in a very strange way..." 

He hasn't been back to DL since the CAS decision but kudos to him for taking the suspensions on the chin.

[ManDee 7,089]

I am angry about this, the next thing is they will be complaining that this whole saga is taking so long. 

F[-----------censored------------]k!

[biggestred 4,316]

The swiss will laugh them back onto the plane.

Probably with a wheel of swiss cheese and a comment along the lines of "this is how many holes your case has"

[beelzebub 22,225]

Just now, biggestred said:

The swiss will laugh them back onto the plane.

Probably with a wheel of swiss cheese and a comment along the lines of "this is how many holes your case has"

thats good !! 

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

Scene overheard in Zurich's finest restaurant.

Australian lawyer: "What a shame, eh? Real pity. I thought we had a good case. God, this lobster is amazing."

Other Australian lawyer: "You did?"

Australian lawyer: "No, not really. Another bottle of Grange?"

Third Australian lawyer: "Don't mind if I do. Hey, are we billing this to the client?"

Australian lawyer & Other Australian lawyer: *withering looks*

Third Australian lawyer: "... Sorry."

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,455]

34 minutes ago, ManDee said:

 It's understood the players have not sought an injunction, meaning they will remain suspended this year.

Essendon saga: Players to appeal to Swiss court against Court of Arbitration for Sport verdict

So they will miss the season. What do they stand to gain? This is a lawyer driven money fest. If they win they will sue everyone, if they lose they will sue the AFL & EFC in the mean time the lawyers pocket the money. 

This is a disgrace. Another year stuffed up by the drug cheats, I hope they get a greater penalty if that is possible

Reputational enhancement. At the moment they are considered "officially" guilty of taking illegal substances. If they win the appeal they won't be. But nothing will really undo the damage they have already sustained in the eyes of the general public, unless the appeal unequivocally states CAS was wrong and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of wrongdoing. A big ask, I would have thought, even if they win.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

Reading some of the post of EFC Big Footy. Some of those guys are so delusional.

[rjay 23,922]

I would be very surprised if it even gets to appeal stage...

[ManDee 7,089]

1 minute ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Reputational enhancement. At the moment they are considered "officially" guilty of taking illegal substances. If they win the appeal they won't be. But nothing will really undo the damage they have already sustained in the eyes of the general public, unless the appeal unequivocally states CAS was wrong and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of wrongdoing. A big ask, I would have thought, even if they win.

I think the general public is sick to death of this saga. They will forever be tainted. Interesting that the insurance company is funding the appeal, they must be very afraid of all the law suits coming their way. The legal fraternity must be licking their lips.

[Gorgoroth 12,330]

With an appeal can they get two years?

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

1 minute ago, Gorgoroth said:

With an appeal can they get two years?

Hopefully

[Lucifers Hero 37,106]

13 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Reputational enhancement. At the moment they are considered "officially" guilty of taking illegal substances. If they win the appeal they won't be. But nothing will really undo the damage they have already sustained in the eyes of the general public, unless the appeal unequivocally states CAS was wrong and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of wrongdoing. A big ask, I would have thought, even if they win.

I just heard Chip LG speak and he said the appeal is not based on the evidence or the decision.  They are appealing on a technicality - jurisdiction and CAS's right to hear the case 'de novo'.  So even if they win it won't clear their names.  If they really believed they were innocent they would appeal the decision and the evidence.

It is the same Hird's/EFC  challenge in the Fed court on a technicality ie the legality of the AFL and ASADA doing a 'joint' investigation.  It was (and Hird's later appeal) emphatically turned down. 

I'm a bit over their attempts to use 'the law' to get out of accepting their guilt as if technicalities will erase the taint of being cheats.

Let's hope the player appeal is thrown out of the Swiss court just as emphatically as Hird/EFC in the Fed court!!

[Dees2014 2,377]

5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I just heard Chip LG speak and he said the appeal is not based on the evidence or the decision.  They are appealing on a technicality - jurisdiction and CAS's right to hear the case 'de novo'.  So even if they win it won't clear their names.  If they really believed they were innocent they would appeal the decision and the evidence.

It is the same Hird's/EFC  challenge in the Fed court on a technicality ie the legality of the AFL and ASADA doing a 'joint' investigation.  It was (and Hird's later appeal) emphatically turned down. 

I'm a bit over their attempts to use 'the law' to get out of accepting their guilt as if technicalities will erase the taint of being cheats.

Let's hope the player appeal is thrown out of the Swiss court just as emphatically as Hird/EFC in the Fed court!!

On that basis, I doubt they will even get to have the appeal heard at all. In other words, their next step ie having CAS give permission for the appeal to be heard, won't happen. I think a previous poster hit it on the head when he said if this is being funded by the  EFC insurance company, then they must be terrified of what comes after. And so they should be. 

The last desperate throw of the dice I would have thought.