Best strategy has to be take best available, regardless of postional need.

In this era of player movement, a graders are 'currency'. we can always trade out surplus a graders for proven players of a certain position the following year.

surplus a graders...what a wonderful day that will be

Posted this on Collins thread as there was info on Collins.

A friend's son has played in games with Weideman and says he is fearless and backs into packs or runs with the flight of the ball, like Carey did.

Says he has kicked 5 goals in a quarter in an AIS game.

Says he is the real deal.

I don't see him getting past Essendon.

Posted this on Collins thread as there was info on Collins.

A friend's son has played in games with Weideman and says he is fearless and backs into packs or runs with the flight of the ball, like Carey did.

Says he has kicked 5 goals in a quarter in an AIS game.

Says he is the real deal.

I don't see him getting past Essendon.

Leaving us with Curnow?

Posted this on Collins thread as there was info on Collins.

A friend's son has played in games with Weideman and says he is fearless and backs into packs or runs with the flight of the ball, like Carey did.

Says he has kicked 5 goals in a quarter in an AIS game.

Says he is the real deal.

I don't see him getting past Essendon.

If this is correct ^ ^ ^, (I haven't seen any draftee possibilities except for vid's)... then I would definately take him at P-3, hands down. we need a partner for Hogan who has the guts qualities like this.

& forget about the pie heritage; we cannot run this club like that... either 'we back ourselves in now', or we may as well fold. Because not backing ourselves, is the cowardly approach we've been hindered by, for too many decades already.

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Callum Twomey on AFL radio during the trade period said that he genuinely believes that if not for his injury Weideman would be ranked No 2 in this draft. He is a big wrap for him. Most BF phantom drafts have him a fair bit lower. Watch for Callum's final Phantom update on the AFL website close to draft day. He usually gets close to the mark. I guess he gets a bit of information etc from clubs. So I am not surprised by Redlegs comments regarding his information. Backs up Callum's 'big' statement. on trade radio.

If Weideman is that good then we would have to take him at pick 3, play him at FF and let Hogan slaughter the opposition as a higher CHF.

If this is correct ^ ^ ^, (I haven't seen any draftee possibilities except for vid's)... then I would definately take him at P-3, hands down. we need a partner for Hogan who has the guts qualities like this.

& forget about the pie heritage; we cannot run this club like that... either 'we back ourselves in now', or we may as well fold. Because not backing ourselves, is the cowardly approach we've been hindered by, for too many decades already.

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Francis does the same.

Snoop Dog:

Sam Weideman (Eastern Ranges / 196cm / 91kg)

Terrific young prospect who we just didn't get to see enough of this year but the little we did was super impressive at times.He also showed us a fair bit last year as a bottom ager and suspect had Gary Pert trying to get grandsons included in the F/S rules. Presents as the best tall forward in this draft albeit Harry McKay pretty close for mine. Sam is a natural forward unlike guys like Boyd etc who have been drafted high in previous years. I think coaches really value key forwards that haven't got their success camped in the goal square clunking marks but rather kids who understand how, when and where to lead. He has real speed and many will find it hard to close space on him once he is ahead of them. Once he has the space ahead of him he will use his long arms and good hands to clunk them and his finishing is generally pretty good albeit has scope for some improvement. The knock I have on him is his consistency but that happens a lot with young talls and his kicking at times is a bit erratic. Loads of potential for mine.

Next best kid for mine is Clayton Oliver which would have taken if Melbourne needed another mid but they need a tall forward and hence only other consideration was Harry McKay who was bloody close.

Eastern Ranges and hip problem.....alarm bells.

Snoop Dog:

Sam Weideman (Eastern Ranges / 196cm / 91kg)

Next best kid for mine is Clayton Oliver which would have taken if Melbourne needed another mid but they need a tall forward and hence only other consideration was Harry McKay who was bloody close.

This 'snoop dog' and I have different interpretations of the word 'need'...

Eastern Ranges and hip problem.....alarm bells.

Hip problem alone is enough !! lol

Incorrect. Daniher forced Cameron to take Molan. Cameron wanted the best player at that pick, who actually was not a key forward.

Dal Santo. IIRC Daniher didn't specify Molan, rather he asked CC to draft the 'toughest' kid in the draft, which CC assessed to be Molan.

Dal Santo. IIRC Daniher didn't specify Molan, rather he asked CC to draft the 'toughest' kid in the draft, which CC assessed to be Molan.

this alone is a part of our soft culture, expecting one or two, to be hard & the others to suit themselves, IF they are skilled. Not good enough this way. Players must be well rounded, & 'go' when its the turn to 'go'.

... we have seen in recent times the kids we recruited who entered a culture with senior players like, yze, robbo, green, bruce, davey,... the kids like newton, watts, morton, bennell, cook, gysberts, howe, toump;

.....the culture learn't from the get go, lasts thru careers, & is like soap scum on the shower glass, you can never really get it all out.

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[censored] me 'luded - what a pisser, can I use this line? ......somewhere

"like soap scum on the shower glass, you can never really get it all out."

Sam Blease came from Eastern Rangers!! Highly credentiallled!!

Give me a Graeme Yates Dandenong Stngray, anyday!!

Not discounting the Weed, however!!

Hips hnmm shades of Toumpas revisited!

Just a little Cautious or as I have used in the past

"Caveat Emptor"

Dal Santo. IIRC Daniher didn't specify Molan, rather he asked CC to draft the 'toughest' kid in the draft, which CC assessed to be Molan.

Not Dal Santo. James Kelly.

Sorry my bad, both would have been very handy on our list, but neither would have been what Danners had in mind.

With the benefit of hindsight it is easy for us to criticise the coach for interfering, but specifying a type isn't the same as picking a name, and whatever else you can say about the process, Danners was acutely aware of the weakness inherent in our list at the time. I would think that many other coaches have done the same thing, but probably none had the misfortune of having that pick suffer as badly from injury as Luke Molan.

Edited November 3, 20159 yr by grazman

Not Dal Santo. James Kelly.

I'm sure it was Dal Santo.

I recall the days when Craig Cameron use to post on here back in 2003.

Jeez we all use to love it!

I also remember you 'Fan.' I'll always remember you by that name and that small avatar of Neale Danniher you had.

I was a lurker in those days.

I'm sure it was Dal Santo.

I recall the days when Craig Cameron use to post on here back in 2003.

Jeez we all use to love it!

I also remember you 'Fan.' I'll always remember you by that name and that small avatar of Neale Danniher you had.

I was a lurker in those days.

Schwaby posted too.

I wonder if CAC went on to post on a Richmond forum.

I'm sure it was Dal Santo.

It's been a common misconception for a long time but I can promise you James Kelly was the most likely pick if not Molan. ND asked him for the toughest KP player in the draft so Craig didn't really focus on top end smalls but when I asked him about Dal Santo he said he had others in front of him.

The other interesting thing he said he'd have taken Robert Murphy with pick 5 if we had retained that in 1999. Disappointing because Murphy is my favourite non MFC player.

Yep Utah, I was always a fan of Neale. Great man and so much better than he was given credit for, particularly at the time. History will treat him kindly although life hasn't.

It's been a common misconception for a long time but I can promise you James Kelly was the most likely pick if not Molan. ND asked him for the toughest KP player in the draft so Craig didn't really focus on top end smalls but when I asked him about Dal Santo he said he had others in front of him.

The other interesting thing he said he'd have taken Robert Murphy with pick 5 if we had retained that in 1999. Disappointing because Murphy is my favourite non MFC player.

Yep Utah, I was always a fan of Neale. Great man and so much better than he was given credit for, particularly at the time. History will treat him kindly although life hasn't.

Dissapointing for you, probably not murphy considering the career he would have had if he came here

Dal Santo. IIRC Daniher didn't specify Molan, rather he asked CC to draft the 'toughest' kid in the draft, which CC assessed to be Molan.

Correct and he was tough, he just copped some awful injuries.

Sam Blease came from Eastern Rangers!! Highly credentiallled!!

Give me a Graeme Yates Dandenong Stngray, anyday!!

Not discounting the Weed, however!!

Hips hnmm shades of Toumpas revisited!

Just a little Cautious or as I have used in the past

"Caveat Emptor"

Yeats.

It's been a common misconception for a long time but I can promise you James Kelly was the most likely pick if not Molan. ND asked him for the toughest KP player in the draft so Craig didn't really focus on top end smalls but when I asked him about Dal Santo he said he had others in front of him.

The other interesting thing he said he'd have taken Robert Murphy with pick 5 if we had retained that in 1999. Disappointing because Murphy is my favourite non MFC player.

Yep Utah, I was always a fan of Neale. Great man and so much better than he was given credit for, particularly at the time. History will treat him kindly although life hasn't.

The Reverend did our club proud. Several times. Not just his coaching, but coaching a club in difficult times, a club under re-sourced, lacking AFL standard facilities at the Junction. Also his promotion of our club and helping increase membership. He knew putting us in a better position financially allowed the club to compete, despite a ball and chain around it's neck holding us back financially. ie. getting rookies such as Aaron Davey onto our list.

Rare footage I think of Sam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu0_aDJu-4w&sns=em

Here's an article on him as a bottom ager last year. You get the feeling that he and Petracca would enjoy working together up forward.

http://afldraftcentral.com.au/2014/04/15/afl-bloodlines-weideman-wants-to-forge-own-legacy/