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Tyson was better off playing a full game at Casey to gain some match fitness not as the sub.. And no Brayshaw will not be rested this week. I dare say they will be managing his workloads during the weeks anyway

Sometimes you got to select the team to win.

I'm all for management (Brayshaw this week) but Tyson could have been the difference in the last.

What's better for the team- QB win or Tyson regaining match fitness at Casey?

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I understand the resting Brayshaw philosophy.. But there is a bye around the corner and the evidence is pretty clear, the kid is getting better and running out games better than early in year. He is the exact type that gets more out of playing.

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Sometimes you got to select the team to win.

I'm all for management (Brayshaw this week) but Tyson could have been the difference in the last.

What's better for the team- QB win or Tyson regaining match fitness at Casey?

Orrrrr Tyson could have re-injured himself seeing the sub ended up playing half the game.

How does that go for your "management" policy?

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MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Calf Test

Sam Frost Toe 5 weeks

Jay Kennedy-Harris Groin 1 week

Dean Kent Hamstring 5 weeks

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 1 week

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring TBC

ST KILDA

Sam Fisher Hamstring 3 weeks

Far out.

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MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Calf Test

Sam Frost Toe 5 weeks

Jay Kennedy-Harris Groin 1 week

Dean Kent Hamstring 5 weeks

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 1 week

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring TBC

ST KILDA

Sam Fisher Hamstring 3 weeks

Far out.

I wonder how long before Kent and Frost become "season"

They have been five weeks ever since they were injured.

There is only 12 weeks to go.

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I wonder how long before Kent and Frost become "season"

They have been five weeks ever since they were injured.

There is only 12 weeks to go.

Kent was originally 10-12 weeks... Misson has said all along he has been ahead of schedule but by the time 5 weeks is up and he regains match fitness thats 8 weeks, might be back for the last 3 or 4 games

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Kent was originally 10-12 weeks... Misson has said all along he has been ahead of schedule but by the time 5 weeks is up and he regains match fitness thats 8 weeks, might be back for the last 3 or 4 games

I bow to your superior knowledge JV7

Those figures look season ending to me.

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Orrrrr Tyson could have re-injured himself seeing the sub ended up playing half the game.

How does that go for your "management" policy?

My management policy is pretty simple:

First year player- perhaps don't rely on him to win games Hogans Heros.

Fourth year player- is given plenty of time to recover, bring in as sub to help win important game.

Irrelevant about further injury, that could happen anywhere. Match fitness? Team win first.

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Which players would make us better?

Chris Dawes - POSSIBLY

Sam Frost - POSSIBLY

Jay Kennedy-Harris - NOT AT THIS STAGE

Dean Kent - YES

Christian Petracca - ONE WOULD ASSUME YES

Christian Salem - YES

Jack Trengove - HOPEFULLY, POSSIBLY, BUT WHO KNOWS IF HE EVEN CAN RETURN

Aaron vandenBerg - YES

I doubt many agree with me re JKH, but I feel he still has a lot to learn and improvement to make before he is in our current best 22.

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Which players would make us better?

Chris Dawes - POSSIBLY

Sam Frost - POSSIBLY

Jay Kennedy-Harris - NOT AT THIS STAGE

Dean Kent - YES

Christian Petracca - ONE WOULD ASSUME YES

Christian Salem - YES

Jack Trengove - HOPEFULLY, POSSIBLY, BUT WHO KNOWS IF HE EVEN CAN RETURN

Aaron vandenBerg - YES

I doubt many agree with me re JKH, but I feel he still has a lot to learn and improvement to make before he is in our current best 22.

good post.

In regards to JKH, i would say

JKH- SOMETIMES YES, SOMETIMES NO.

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My management policy is pretty simple:

First year player- perhaps don't rely on him to win games Hogans Heros.

Fourth year player- is given plenty of time to recover, bring in as sub to help win important game.

Irrelevant about further injury, that could happen anywhere. Match fitness? Team win first.

Tyson hasn't played since round 7 and has missed large chunks of seasons due to injury.

You say management and then you say "team win first". Ridiculous.

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you could argue that at the start of the year next year:

B: Jetta - Dunn - Garland

HB: Howe - T. McDonald - Salem

C: vandenBerg - N Jones - Vince

HF: Watts - Dawes - Kent
F: Frost - Hogan - Garlett

Foll: Gawn - Tyson - Viney

I/C: Trengove - Brayshaw - Petracca

Sub: JKH

is our best 22...

(cross presumably having retired.)

easily arguable that if not best 22, those injury list players would be in our top 25.

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MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Calf Test

Sam Frost Toe 5 weeks

Jay Kennedy-Harris Groin 1 week

Dean Kent Hamstring 5 weeks

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 1 week

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring TBC

ST KILDA

Sam Fisher Hamstring 3 weeks

Far out.

Every team we have played this year has had so much luck, our injury list has been loaded and our opponents have been empty..

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MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Calf Test

Sam Frost Toe 5 weeks

Jay Kennedy-Harris Groin 1 week

Dean Kent Hamstring 5 weeks

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 1 week

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring TBC

ST KILDA

Sam Fisher Hamstring 3 weeks

Far out.

Possibly one glimmer of good news - Viney not on that list

you could argue that at the start of the year next year:

B: Jetta - Dunn - Garland

HB: Howe - T. McDonald - Salem

C: vandenBerg - N Jones - Vince

HF: Watts - Dawes - Kent

F: Frost - Hogan - Garlett

Foll: Gawn - Tyson - Viney

I/C: Trengove - Brayshaw - Petracca

Sub: JKH

is our best 22...

(cross presumably having retired.)

easily arguable that if not best 22, those injury list players would be in our top 25.

Looks a pretty decent 22 - dream that they may all get on the park together

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you could argue that at the start of the year next year:

B: Jetta - Dunn - Garland

HB: Howe - T. McDonald - Salem

C: vandenBerg - N Jones - Vince

HF: Watts - Dawes - Kent

F: Frost - Hogan - Garlett

Foll: Gawn - Tyson - Viney

I/C: Trengove - Brayshaw - Petracca

Sub: JKH

is our best 22...

(cross presumably having retired.)

easily arguable that if not best 22, those injury list players would be in our top 25.

Take Dawes out and you're close 'Andrew'...

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Christian Salem has apparently re injured his other hamstring and could miss another 4 weeks.

Is this fact or are you talking out of your ass again like you were regarding Vineys scans?

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Christian Salem has apparently re injured his other hamstring and could miss another 4 weeks.

arghhhhh

Viney, Salem and Kent all looked like breaking out in 2015 out and all got hit by bad injuries

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Tyson hasn't played since round 7 and has missed large chunks of seasons due to injury.

You say management and then you say "team win first". Ridiculous.

Stuie, management isn't only taking the safest option.

If Tyson played as sub instead of M Jones do you think the result might be different? I'd say there's a significant chance. M Jones isn't an impact player, Tyson is.

People here want Roos to stop making excuses, start going after wins. I agree with that, certainly to the extent of putting Tyson in that position.

That game is over - I'm saying resting Brayshaw will be considered but is a totally different case to Tyson.

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I think most supporters will lose interest for the foreseeable future if we drop this game:-

In - Dom Tyson, Jack Grimes

Out - Aaron vandenBerg (injured) , Matt Jones

Speak for yourself. We are a team in transition and the reality is we are transitioning to the Goodwin era. There are a host of things to be of great interest to the serious supporter that understands winning is only one goal of this period. I look forward to much more in every game and I will do so to the end of the year.

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