The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[McQueen 17,864]

2 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

Big 4 caravan park experience at Armadale when you were 12 years old probably isn't a true reflection of the status quo, C&B.

[Middymalt 244]

On 12 February 2016 at 4:43 PM, Curry & Beer said:

I'm more in the camp that we had shyzen d'ment rather than bad drafting. All of the blokes in that picture would have gone very close to the picks we took them at, and at other clubs probably would have all been decent players.

No they wouldn't have they didn't have the talent Frawley was AA under bailey so he developed the picked the wrong kids Shuey in between Strauss and Blease is laughable , Blease never made if at the cats Strauss and Tappy never got another shot and I thought that strange about tappy because he had an Afl frame if Roos had those picks at the swans he would've traded them for established players and kept the Swans up there for another decade, un fortunately the club was taken over by control freaks when Jim got sick and the rest is history , also I know a friend of dan hannerbury  at the swans and he played a lot of footy with Strauss and the mail I got was Strauss was physically and mentally fragile and he was shocked that he was taken so high.

[Middymalt 244]

On 11 February 2016 at 8:56 PM, Petraccattack said:

 

So many non-competitive players drafted around that time. Scary really.

Thank christ the total opposite is happening under Roos.

Exactly correct non competitive non accountable it's not development it's what's in the ticker get a beast like Viney and Brayshaw and they thrive under any conditions get a guy like Watts and Cook and the rest speaks for itself Viney and AB have more grunt in there little finger than the other 2 I mentioned is Cook even playing country footy because if he isn't that's a huge indictment on the club .

Edited February 14, 2016 by Middymalt
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[Soidee 1,496]

4 hours ago, McQueen said:

Which I find a little amusing to be honest.

When did he leave Perth? He was a 17 year old and has spent the last 3 to 4 years in Melbourne.

Sure he's had opportunities to experience Perth as an adult but not in the same way as Melbourne.

Perth has heaps to do and a much nicer climate to do it in.

Yeah much nicer climate if you enjoy stinking hot summers for 8 months a year.  Perth is good if you can withstand the extreme heat and cost of living.  Personally I prefer Melbourne lifestyle with much more choice and cheaper eating out.

[dazzledavey36 48,867]

20 minutes ago, Middymalt said:

Exactly correct non competitive non accountable it's not development it's what's in the ticker get a beast like Viney and Brayshaw and they thrive under any conditions get a guy like Watts and Cook and the rest speaks for itself Viney and AB have more grunt in there little finger than the other 2 I mentioned is Cook even playing country footy because if he isn't that's a huge indictment on the club .

Cook is playing VFL

[Middymalt 244]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Cook is playing VFL

Glad to hear that how'hes doing well

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[daisycutter 28,588]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Cook is playing VFL

maybe he could be a top-up player for the bummers?   they are looking for a kpp

[binman 38,459]

20 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

maybe he could be a top-up player for the bummers?   they are looking for a kpp

It says something about disastrous a pick Cool was at 12 that your comment was a joke. 

[Pennant St Dee 11,324]

Jesse grew up in Scarborough and is a Marist/Claremont zone boy, certainly wouldn't be heading into Northbridge, with a long list of friends from the Western suburbs.  He still keeps in regular contact with a lot of the Claremont and Marist boys and catches up with them whilst he is back in Perth.  I know a few of the lads he knocks about with and families he grew up with.  In case you hadn't heard they have coffee here, Freo is well known for it.  A lot of what I hear does little to concern me as to wanting to return to Perth, but until he signs there is always that doubt, there are some circumstances which concern me but whatever happens, it happens.  

I don't believe for 1 minute this nonsense he didn't like growing up in Perth.  His family no longer lives in Perth but he spends a lot of his off season and in season his breaks back in Perth.  He spends that time here, heading out with mates from his childhood. The main reason he would want to stay in melbourne is to stay with the new mates he has formed bonds with and to be part of something with them 

Jesse and his manager are playing this game perfectly he has 2 more years to run and barring a shocking injury his price will rise and rise.  Currently you have Freo being talked about, they wont be throwing the kitchen sink money wise at Macarthy just more than GWS were offering, but don't think for one minute if there is any talk of him wishing to return that Meth Coast wont also be in the race.  Josh Kennedy will be 30 next year so hardly commanding massive dollars or a long term contract.

We currently have him and since Roos and co came on board we are certainly in the box seat and IMO he is ours to lose, we just need to keep this momentum going and keep heading in the right direction with this young core we have and not rest on our laurels.  We will know by early 2017 what Jesse's intentions are

 

[Damo 2,997]

I was right with you up till "momentum"

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

48 minutes ago, Franky_31 said:

I was right with you up till "momentum"

how would YOU describe the trend of these stats?:

             pf        pa        apf       apa    amarg    ai50f    ai50a    ai50diff    wins    ladder
2013    1455    2691    66.1    122.3    -56.2    40.0    58          -18.0           2    17
2014    1336    1954    60.7    88.8     -28.1    40.5    52.1         -11.6           4    17
2015    1573    2044    71.5    92.9     -21.4    44.4    53.4          -9.0            7    13

credit where it's due, please

[Ethan Tremblay 28,427]

8 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

how would YOU describe the trend of these stats?:

             pf        pa        apf       apa    amarg    ai50f    ai50a    ai50diff    wins    ladder
2013    1455    2691    66.1    122.3    -56.2    40.0    58          -18.0           2    17
2014    1336    1954    60.7    88.8     -28.1    40.5    52.1         -11.6           4    17
2015    1573    2044    71.5    92.9     -21.4    44.4    53.4          -9.0            7    13

credit where it's due, please

A mess.

[Gator 16,893]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

A mess.

They're actually very good stats that show clear progression.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I agree. Still messy though. 

you're a bit special aren't you? What is 'messy' about it, is it there part where there is 100% correlation of improvement across all bolded stats over both years, a pattern that is so obvious, any child with basic numeracy skills would recognise it?

[Ethan Tremblay 28,427]

Just now, Curry & Beer said:

you're a bit special aren't you? What is 'messy' about it, is it there part where there is 100% correlation of improvement across all bolded stats over both years, a pattern that is so obvious, any child with basic numeracy skills would recognise it?

Jeez I've never known someone's ego to get so bruised so easily. 

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Jeez I've never known someone's ego to get so bruised so easily. 

Explain the comment then, I don't understand what contribution you were trying to make with it

[Damo 2,997]

I understand momentum to have a mass behind it. I wasnt kidding that I was with you, but Id have used the word "Promises".

Just because things need to run to plan and the phrase "As long as...." isnt vital to our improvement.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Franky_31

[rpfc 27,501]

So Hogan will stick around because he likes coffee?

 

I get the 'travel with a bad back' reason but the things that will keep him around are money and winning.

[dazzledavey36 48,867]

7 minutes ago, rpfc said:

So Hogan will stick around because he likes coffee?

 

I get the 'travel with a bad back' reason but the things that will keep him around are money and winning.

Yeah i thought the whole Coffee thing was bit bizzare personally..

Do Perth not sell Coffee at all or..?

[nutbean 8,837]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah i thought the whole Coffee thing was bit bizzare personally..

Do Perth not sell Coffee at all or..?

They only sell International Roast therefore Jesse is a monty to stay in Melbourne.

[Redleg 37,691]

23 minutes ago, rpfc said:

 

 

I get the 'travel with a bad back' reason but the things that will keep him around are money and winning.

The first won't be a problem.

[McQueen 17,864]

23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah i thought the whole Coffee thing was bit bizzare personally..

Do Perth not sell Coffee at all or..?

There is coffee in Perth but it costs $38 a cup, relative to the general high cost of living here.

Jesse will need a huge salary paid to him if he has ambitions of moving back to Perth, particularly if he loves a coffee.

[Ted Lasso 16,825]

I just think he and his manager are playing it perfectly, the longer it goes the more his stocks rise, get his client the best possible deal to secure his financial future and his career at a club where he is happy, which i think will be the MFC

[Slartibartfast 15,807]

48 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I get the 'travel with a bad back' reason but the things that will keep him around are money and winning.

Patrick Cripps says hi.  Don't know why you have to tar Hogan with the equivalent of the mercenary tag. He's not done one thing to deserve it.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

53 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah i thought the whole Coffee thing was bit bizzare personally..

Do Perth not sell Coffee at all or..?

They sell it alright but it's about double the cost.