Raiding GWS

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

Zak Jones seems to be struggling to get a game in the Swans star studded side. I think he could be a great value trade probably only costs a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I would love to see us do the following this off season:

- Trade our first pick (likely between 2-5) to GWS or Brisbane for one of: Shiel, Treloar, Coniglio or Aish.

- Trade our 3rd round pick for Zak Jones

- Bring in a free agent (thinking Scott Selwood)

- Bring in a decent ruckman (thinking Gorringe or Leunberger)

[Demon trucker 1,800]

Need big forward who can kicks goals regular one goal a game from dawes is not enough .

[BrisbaneDemon 1,572]

Zak Jones seems to be struggling to get a game in the Swans star studded side. I think he could be a great value trade probably only costs a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I would love to see us do the following this off season:

- Trade our first pick (likely between 2-5) to GWS or Brisbane for one of: Shiel, Treloar, Coniglio or Aish.

- Trade our 3rd round pick for Zak Jones

- Bring in a free agent (thinking Scott Selwood)

- Bring in a decent ruckman (thinking Gorringe or Leunberger)

Do you reckon Aish is worth a first rounder? i'd put Sheil and Treloar in that group, i havent seen enough of Coniglio to comment. Sheil and Treloar are serious talents, Aish is a solid young player, with potential...........

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

I hear that the Bulldogs are very much into Hoskin-Elliot.

For us I've been a big fan of Treloar and Shiel for a while now. I'd love to be able to get either one over the line, but to do that we'd need to have a very good year and show that they'll be playing finals with us. Otherwise it's off to one of the power clubs for them.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

Do you reckon Aish is worth a first rounder? i'd put Sheil and Treloar in that group, i havent seen enough of Coniglio to comment. Sheil and Treloar are serious talents, Aish is a solid young player, with potential...........

It depends where our pick falls. If it is number 5 or 6 then I would definitely swap it for Aish. If it is pick 2 then that may be a different story.

Aish was a pick 7 from two years ago and his first season form was outstanding! He averaged over 17.5 possessions per game plus more than 3.5 tackles per game.

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

I'm not sold on Aish yet.

It will be interesting to follow his progress this year.

[samcantstandya 1,051]

GWS must be absolutely thrilled that they have Scully on their list eating up stacks of their cap for ever and ever with no end in sight.

Shiel would obviously be a fantastic addition for us.

Shiel plus Sloane or Aish or Selwood would be just unreal.

I'd do 4 shiels & aish 2 quality young stars of the future.

[Wunders 397]

Do you reckon Aish is worth a first rounder? i'd put Sheil and Treloar in that group, i havent seen enough of Coniglio to comment. Sheil and Treloar are serious talents, Aish is a solid young player, with potential...........

I dont think his value has dropped either way. He has had 2 years in the system with AFL experience. If we took the pick to the draft we would need to develop a midfielder to get him to this stage etc.. Unless you get a cfreak like ollie wines. If it was 5 years in and he was a regular in and out player then his value would drop.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I love GW$ bombing raids....!

[KingDingAling 3,758]

I hear that the Bulldogs are very much into Hoskin-Elliot.

For us I've been a big fan of Treloar and Shiel for a while now. I'd love to be able to get either one over the line, but to do that we'd need to have a very good year and show that they'll be playing finals with us. Otherwise it's off to one of the power clubs for them.

Hopefully we throw the kitchen sink at Treloar. I hope he has a quiet year. I expect both he and Shiel will have elite years.

I think Treloar is the safer pick though, his game is more rounded, he is somewhat dual sided, hard at it, great inside and out - and can find the pill.

As good as Shiel is, he is drifts in and out. From a MFC point of view, we've seen too many of those players. Don't get me wrong, I still want Shiel, but I think Treloar should be our priority - as I believe he is a safer pick, and the money we'd need to throw at him, we need to limit our risk of failure. We don't have the best track record of splurging dollars and maximising output in terms of investment.

Edited April 22, 2015 by KingDingAling

[dee-luded 2,959]

Zak Jones seems to be struggling to get a game in the Swans star studded side. I think he could be a great value trade probably only costs a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I would love to see us do the following this off season:

- Trade our first pick (likely between 2-5) to GWS or Brisbane for one of: Shiel, Treloar, Coniglio or Aish.

- Trade our 3rd round pick for Zak Jones

- Bring in a free agent (thinking Scott Selwood)

- Bring in a decent ruckman (thinking Gorringe or Leunberger)

- keep our 1st Rnd pick for the draft

- trade Howe + 4th Rnd pick for Shiel ?

- trade Howe for Prestia ?

- trade Howe + 4th Rnd pick for Aish ?

- trade Howe + Bail for Aish ?

- trade Gawn for Luenberger ?

- trade Watts for Yarran ?

- trade Watts + 4th Rnd pick for Aish ?

- trade Dawes & Watts + 4th Rnd pick for Henderson & Yarran ?

[autocol 448]

- keep our 1st Rnd pick for the draft

- trade Howe + 4th Rnd pick for Shiel ?

- trade Howe for Prestia ?

- trade Howe + 4th Rnd pick for Aish ?

- trade Howe + Bail for Aish ?

- trade Gawn for Luenberger ?

- trade Watts for Yarran ?

- trade Watts + 4th Rnd pick for Aish ?

- trade Dawes & Watts + 4th Rnd pick for Henderson & Yarran ?

You really are deluded. With the possible exception of Watts for Yarran, no-one in their right mind would accept any one of those trades.

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

I love the swap of watts for Yarran...

Yarran is watts only smaller in height.

[praha 11,240]

I love the swap of watts for Yarran...

Yarran is watts only smaller in height.

You mean he hates the contested ball and has the face of a tailor from the 1950s?

[whatwhat say what 22,755]

The worst aspect of all these mooted trades is that gws will retain picks at the pointy end of the draft to replenish their list if they lose one or two youngsters a year for the next five years, before they start becoming free agents.

It's hard to see them or gc17 getting worse.

My order of preference to target:

- Treloar

- Shiel

- Whitfield

- Kelly

- Coniglio

- Hoskin-Elliott

- Smith

- Greene

- Bugg

The amount of depth they have running through their midfield is scary.

[PaulRB 6,363]

Its interesting to compare with the mid list we're building

- Jones

- Viney

- Tyson

- Salem

- Brayshaw

- Petracca

- Trengove

- Vince

- VandenBerg

- Newton

- ??

Edited April 22, 2015 by PaulRB

[whatwhat say what 22,755]

But those that I've advocated as poaching order don't include their high price acquisitions who lead their kids:

- Ward

- Griffen

- $cully

- Palmer

They've got players who'd be starting mids for most other sides playing as half forwards and half backs on a permanent basis.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Zak Jones seems to be struggling to get a game in the Swans star studded side. I think he could be a great value trade probably only costs a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I would love to see us do the following this off season:

- Trade our first pick (likely between 2-5) to GWS or Brisbane for one of: Shiel, Treloar, Coniglio or Aish.

- Trade our 3rd round pick for Zak Jones

- Bring in a free agent (thinking Scott Selwood)

- Bring in a decent ruckman (thinking Gorringe or Leunberger)

Sydney are very good at giving young mids 2 or 3 years in the seconds with only a handful of senior AFL games. There are exceptions, such as Heeney, but I'm wondering if this patience is being used to develop Zac. I'd certainly love him at the Dees, but ATM consider a high second round pick or even late first round around 16-20 as a realistic trade scenario. He might slip as the year progresses. For his sake I hope he does get more senior game time at the Swans.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

Suggested trade from Richmond board:

''Hampson or Vickery to Brisbane. They are desperate for big men. Pick up Aish or their first pick. If we hpget their pick, trade it on to GWS and pick up Dylan Shiel.

Or go hell for leather for Dangerfield.''

This is ridiculous. They're essentially saying Vickery is = Shiel. This is the same Vickery that's struggling remain in their best 22.

[FireOath 290]

Hopefully we throw the kitchen sink at Treloar. I hope he has a quiet year. I expect both he and Shiel will have elite years.

I think Treloar is the safer pick though, his game is more rounded, he is somewhat dual sided, hard at it, great inside and out - and can find the pill.

As good as Shiel is, he is drifts in and out. From a MFC point of view, we've seen too many of those players. Don't get me wrong, I still want Shiel, but I think Treloar should be our priority - as I believe he is a safer pick, and the money we'd need to throw at him, we need to limit our risk of failure. We don't have the best track record of splurging dollars and maximising output in terms of investment.

This.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Barra17

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

As much as I'd love either of them, I would be astonished if we were to get either one of Shiel or Treloar.

I just don't see the appeal of coming to a side who are behind GWS in terms of development.

It'd have to be a bucket load of money. Although I'm sure they'd be two players who'd be on some very decent coin as we speak.

Can't see it happening.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

As much as I'd love either of them, I would be astonished if we were to get either one of Shiel or Treloar.

I just don't see the appeal of coming to a side who are behind GWS in terms of development.

It'd have to be a bucket load of money. Although I'm sure they'd be two players who'd be on some very decent coin as we speak.

Can't see it happening.

Agreed. They'd have to be pretty homesick and we'd have to offer contracts much larger than the other Vic based clubs are willing to pay them (bar maybe Carlton and St Kilda).

[Bay Riffin 1,474]

As much as I'd love either of them, I would be astonished if we were to get either one of Shiel or Treloar.

I just don't see the appeal of coming to a side who are behind GWS in terms of development.

It'd have to be a bucket load of money. Although I'm sure they'd be two players who'd be on some very decent coin as we speak.

Can't see it happening.

Tyson ?

[PaulRB 6,363]

Lower clubs have better picks, which is what GWS will want in return for their guns...

[ManDee 7,148]

- trade Watts for Yarran ?

Yarran Watts

3 Games 3

12.3 Kicks Per Game 8.0

2.0 Handballs Per Game 6.7

14.3 Disposals Per Game 14.7

4.3 Marks Per Game 5.3

0 Goals Per Game 1.0

0.3 Behinds Per Game 0.3

2.0 Tackles Per Game 2.0

0 Hitouts Per Game 0

1.7 Inside 50s Per Game 1.7 1.

0 Goal Assists Per Game 1.0

0.7 Frees For Per Game 1.0

2.0 Frees Against Per Game 1.0

3.7 Contested Possessions Per Game 6.3

You just hate Watts.

Edited April 23, 2015 by ManDee