Changes for Round 4

[PaulRB 6,363]

Reckon Jack will be pumped to play the Tigers on Friday night... focus is right on him.

[binman 42,962]

Didn't know where to put this as i forgot to post it after our round one win. Figured this as good a place as any.

Watts was rightfully praised for his tap down to Gartlett to set up a goal but there was an even better bit of play that also set up another goal for Gartlett, the one he got after getting the ball in the middle of the ground and kicking from outside 50.

At the ground i couldn't work out how the ball had got out to Gartlett. I thought Frost might have knocked it out but thought it was just a lucky bobble of the ball. So i looked for it when i watched the replay. I had to watch it a few times to work out it was Watts who flipped the ball out of the pack to a running Gartlett. Brilliant stuff and so deft i don't recall a single comment about it on DL or in the press (or indeed the commentator, Anthony Hudson).

Interestingly he took what some might say was the soft option as he could have elected to attack the ball and grab it, but would have been immediately tackled and was heading away from goals.

Anyway brilliant bit of work. 1.33 of the following clip:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2015-04-05/rd-1-watch-all-the-goals

[samcantstandya 1,051]

He played 21 games last year, predominantly forward or on the wiing and kicked 10 goals, so maybe he shanks 50%

He played 21 games last year, predominantly forward or on the wiing and kicked 10 goals, so maybe he shanks 50%

An AL player should have a better strike rate than 1 in 2. He needs 2 kick his opportunities it's not like he creates many. For me he's a depth player only.

[hemingway 7,627]

what a great post saw him play brut strength is not everything in our great game ,barry vagg great player seemed soft but in his home town he was known as a hard tough player

Barry Vagg was a good player in a great team. Very similar will of the wisp style to Tunna but not with the same magic. Tunna was a match winner. Both players could drift in and out of a game. Interesting comment about toughness though. Vagg was regarded as a player who was susceptible to a bit of man on man pressure including the old knuckle. Tunna would do nothing for several quarters and still be influential when it mattered. On occasions he could be flattened but still get off the turf to kick a couple of quick goals to win the game. Watts disposal skills are far better than either Vagg or Tunna, but his reading of the game is not in the same class and as yet he does not have the same capacity to influence a game. However, like Vagg and Tunna were in the good old days, Watts could be "value added" in a successful team. As PRAHA pointed out he could be the cherry on the top in the right circumstances.

[barneymfc 152]

Barry Vagg was a good player in a great team. Very similar will of the wisp style to Tunna but not with the same magic. Tunna was a match winner. Both players could drift in and out of a game. Interesting comment about toughness though. Vagg was regarded as a player who was susceptible to a bit of man on man pressure including the old knuckle. Tunna would do nothing for several quarters and still be influential when it mattered. On occasions he could be flattened but still get off the turf to kick a couple of quick goals to win the game. Watts disposal skills are far better than either Vagg or Tunna, but his reading of the game is not in the same class and as yet he does not have the same capacity to influence a game. However, like Vagg and Tunna were in the good old days, Watts could be "value added" in a successful team. As PRAHA pointed out he could be the cherry on the top in the right circumstances.

yep

[barneymfc 152]

yep

just as side line ,northey was known as the will of the wisp

[barneymfc 152]

watts will be a champ,dont worry ,it might take 2yrs but it will be worth waiting fo

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,130]

Some more of number 3 on Friday night, Jack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgYRpjJWQNo

(A side order of number 1 would also be good)

[Demon_spurs 1,853]

I think you are all looking at this wrong. It Roos' ploy to have Jack drop a few marks and squib a few contests, Richmond will dismiss him as NO THREAT, and he will rip them apart...Brilliant!!!!

[hardtack 10,537]

Some more of number 3 on Friday night, Jack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgYRpjJWQNo

(A side order of number 1 would also be good)

As long as they don't serve up too much of the Number 2 they gave us for so much of last year.

[Dinosaur Rover 197]

That was his most insipid and infuriating play of the lot. He luckily got the ball and dished off a handball, but his weak effort in that contest summed up his insipid 6+ years.

Absolutely - he was in the box seat to mark and should have imposed

Instead he squibbed it made no attempt to mark and got lucky

[Gator 17,352]

I judge players on their ability to stand up in the heat of a final. Watts will never stand up in the heat of a final.

He's as useful as a cold pie.

[rjay 24,928]

I judge players on their ability to stand up in the heat of a final. Watts will never stand up in the heat of a final.

He's as useful as a cold pie.

Well don't judge him or most of our players yet as none of them bar a couple of the imports have played finals.

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

Well don't judge him or most of our players yet as none of them bar a couple of the imports have played finals.

Football non-negotiables, dropping easy un-contested marks being one of them, he may never play finals.

[Gator 17,352]

Well don't judge him or most of our players yet as none of them bar a couple of the imports have played finals.

Nah, I'm happy to judge.

I've been judging him for years and haven't looked like being wrong.

And I'm happy to judge Brayshaw and Hogan after 3 games. They will stand up in the heat of finals.

[binman 42,962]

Football non-negotiables, dropping easy un-contested marks being one of them, he may never play finals.

Just saw that footage again. He didn't duck his head. He just dropped an easy mark (albeit a wet ball). Yes it cost us a goal at a goal. As did Kent who made a bone headed error in trying to kick the ball off the ground rather than pick it up or dive on it. Cost a goal at a critical time (3rd q). Game over

[jackaub 1,402]

watts will be a champ,dont worry ,it might take 2yrs but it will be worth waiting fo

Mate he is over half way through his career!

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,395]

JETTA DUNN GARLAND

SALEM TMAC HOWE

CROSS VINCE H

KENT HOGAN NEWTON

GARLETT PEDO WATTS

JAMAR JONES TYSON

VB ANGUS MITCHIE JKH

OUT - FROST DAWES

IN - PEDO MITCHIE

[rjay 24,928]

JETTA DUNN GARLAND

SALEM TMAC HOWE

CROSS VINCE H

KENT HOGAN NEWTON

GARLETT PEDO WATTS

JAMAR JONES TYSON

VB ANGUS MITCHIE JKH

OUT - FROST DAWES

IN - PEDO MITCHIE

I'm with you 'Al', I don't think they will drop Dawes but on form I would and Pedders gives us more flexibility.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Pedo for Frost.

Only change.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,395]

I'm with you 'Al', I don't think they will drop Dawes but on form I would and Pedders gives us more flexibility.

Grimes is currently paying the price and Dawes should be joining him, but like you said most likely won't happen. No one should be exempt.

[samcantstandya 1,051]

I reckon Watts will deliver this year

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

Need a mid to replace Frost, make Dawes ruck.

Mitchie deserves a spot.

[FireOath 290]

Overreacting a little much over one mark. People drop sitters all of the time. If he had taken the mark we all wouldn't even be talking about this. Calling for his head to be dropped to the VFL is just stupid.

Michie doesn't seem as up to speed as the rest of the guys. If any mids were to come in it would be one of Grimes/Jones/Bail as they are next in line.

One change only: Pederson for Frost.

[DeeSpencer 25,708]

Why does everyone want Pedersen? Give me Gawn! Younger, faster, taller, actually a decent ruck. He brings energy and enthusiasm to the team. Yeah his kicking can be bad and he can really struggle forward in a lot of games but we have to keep giving him chances surely. He'll free up Jamar to play forward more and Jamar is more likely to take a grab than Pedersen as well.