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"There have been exceptions. In the late 1980s we had two players at Melbourne - Stephen Clark and Jamie Duursma - who played again in the same season they injured their cruciates. More recently, Tony Liberatore returned after his second knee reconstruction 18 weeks after surgery. This is the standard length of time for return to sport in the US and Europe."

- http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/04/20/1050777166204.html

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Bloody awful injury and terribly unfair on young kids. Feel for all 3 players.

On a positive note, returning Lion Daniel Rich shined in today's match against the Saints after doing his ACL 11 months ago. Just shows that determination and patience reaps its rewards.

errr shone...?

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Deos it rlealy mtater Dasicytuter as lnog as it can be raed?

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I noticed Libba jnr had the ACL confirmed. Terrible news for the doggies and certainly diminishes the "curse" thoughts going through the brain with Petracca. Best of luck to him with his recovery as well, sounds like his dad will be able to help him along the way.

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This is why I love Paul Roos !

The 18-year-old had even floated the idea of getting back before the season ended, but the experienced Roos quickly knocked that exuberant idea on the head.

"The first thing he (Petracca) said to me [was] 'oh the doc said I can play in four or five months', and I said 'well the coach said you can't'."

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He didn't come back after 16 weeks.

No, according to Luke Darcy....

“I saw his dad (Tony Liberatore) come back after ten weeks from a knee reconstruction, so there’s some good genes there.”

...never thought I would quote Darcy, but he did make a quick comeback I think to play finals.

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No, according to Luke Darcy....

“I saw his dad (Tony Liberatore) come back after ten weeks from a knee reconstruction, so there’s some good genes there.”

...never thought I would quote Darcy, but he did make a quick comeback I think to play finals.

and a hun article this week cited 14 weeks

so i've now seen 10, 14, 16 and 18 weeks quoted.........can it be that hard for a journo to get it right?

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and a hun article this week cited 14 weeks

so i've now seen 10, 14, 16 and 18 weeks quoted.........can it be that hard for a journo to get it right?

According the AFL tables at http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/T/Tony_Liberatore.html. Libba injured his knee against the Swans in Round 5 ( 26-Apr 1998) and returned to play against Essendon in Round 21 (21-Aug 1998). So he missed 16 games with an ACL tear, Just under 4 months.

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This is why I love Paul Roos !

The 18-year-old had even floated the idea of getting back before the season ended, but the experienced Roos quickly knocked that exuberant idea on the head.

"The first thing he (Petracca) said to me [was] 'oh the doc said I can play in four or five months', and I said 'well the coach said you can't'."

Just read that article too, loved it!

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Maccaffer and krakour both played an afl game just over 6 months after injury. Traditional recos, occurred one week apart, rehabbed together and both went over seas for their rehab to a soccer club. (Can't remember which one) but that is just unheard of. I have no idea how this happened, but since they have both re-ruptured their acl's. I don't wanna see petracca even on the track this season. Gym gym gym. Come back with the biggest legs you've ever seen, and the mechanics of a finely tuned gymnast!

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This is why I love Paul Roos !

The 18-year-old had even floated the idea of getting back before the season ended, but the experienced Roos quickly knocked that exuberant idea on the head.

"The first thing he (Petracca) said to me [was] 'oh the doc said I can play in four or five months', and I said 'well the coach said you can't'."

Agreed, his career is just starting. No need to rush it!

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Maccaffer and krakour both played an afl game just over 6 months after injury. Traditional recos, occurred one week apart, rehabbed together and both went over seas for their rehab to a soccer club. (Can't remember which one) but that is just unheard of. I have no idea how this happened, but since they have both re-ruptured their acl's. I don't wanna see petracca even on the track this season. Gym gym gym. Come back with the biggest legs you've ever seen, and the mechanics of a finely tuned gymnast!

You do realize that will most likely result in more knee injury's and tears. If anything he needs to trim it down a bit. Take the stress off his knees

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You do realize that will most likely result in more knee injury's and tears. If anything he needs to trim it down a bit. Take the stress off his knees

You do realise that your completely wrong. Leg strength is key to ACL recovery. Bulking the vmo is the first step of your recovery. A successful recovery is heavily reliant on having the upper leg strength (quads and glutes) to support the controlled movement through the knee, calf strength to help control ankle flexion and most importantly good bio mechanics to ensure the joints and ligaments suffer minimum stress when full range of motion is applied. Having big solid legs and hips has never lead to leg injuries, strength is king. It's ensuring he has the flexibility through the ankle and hips that can cause problems

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You do realise that your completely wrong. Leg strength is key to ACL recovery. Bulking the vmo is the first step of your recovery. A successful recovery is heavily reliant on having the upper leg strength (quads and glutes) to support the controlled movement through the knee, calf strength to help control ankle flexion and most importantly good bio mechanics to ensure the joints and ligaments suffer minimum stress when full range of motion is applied. Having big solid legs and hips has never lead to leg injuries, strength is king. It's ensuring he has the flexibility through the ankle and hips that can cause problems

Size is not strength


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I didn't see this reported (although it most likely was) did he have a traditional reco?

And was it a hamstring graft or did he go for a cadaver ACL etc? (In my mind i like the idea of not taking some of your own hamstring).

Thanks in advance :)

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Wow, really? I thought he could just get fat and it would solve all his problems.

You said 'Come back with the biggest legs you've ever seen', fwit.

Hypertrophy is not strength. You're out of your depth. No more sarcasm out of you, thanks.

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You said 'Come back with the biggest legs you've ever seen', fwit.

Hypertrophy is not strength. You're out of your depth. No more sarcasm out of you, thanks.

don't be so silly

he's a professional athlete managed by a professional fitness group who is going to spend a lot of time in the gym during rehab

nobody was talking about fat. it was obviously about muscle development in the legs......which would equate to strength

whether the fitness staff think it is a good strategy to increase his leg muscles is up to them but they certainly won't be adding fat

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don't be so silly

he's a professional athlete managed by a professional fitness group who is going to spend a lot of time in the gym during rehab

nobody was talking about fat. it was obviously about muscle development in the legs......which would equate to strength

whether the fitness staff think it is a good strategy to increase his leg muscles is up to them but they certainly won't be adding fat

There is a difference between hypertrophy training and strength training. Tappysquads attacked a poster despite being misinformed.

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There is a difference between hypertrophy training and strength training. Tappysquads attacked a poster despite being misinformed.

Yes, because I meant "I hope petracca comes back with bodybuilders legs that are completely useless for a professional footballer." I definitely didn't clearly mean that I hope he comes back looking like a weapon with a powerful trunk, but anyway.....

Done with this website, I'll continue reading the quality training reports (really appreciate them guys) but way too many people who come on here to critique others posts and not interested in discussing the dees

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You do realise that your completely wrong. Leg strength is key to ACL recovery. Bulking the vmo is the first step of your recovery. A successful recovery is heavily reliant on having the upper leg strength (quads and glutes) to support the controlled movement through the knee, calf strength to help control ankle flexion and most importantly good bio mechanics to ensure the joints and ligaments suffer minimum stress when full range of motion is applied. Having big solid legs and hips has never lead to leg injuries, strength is king. It's ensuring he has the flexibility through the ankle and hips that can cause problems

but way too many people who come on here to critique others posts and not interested in discussing the dees

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