Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


THE ESSENDON 34: ON TRIAL


Demonland

Recommended Posts

Two things firstly the silence of the AFL is just dumbfounding and wherever the AWA got a sniff from it certainly got them finally up and about.

Someone is certainly shaking the tree....

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Two things firstly the silence of the AFL is just dumbfounding and wherever the AWA got a sniff from it certainly got them finally up and about.

Someone is certainly shaking the tree....

The AFL are somewhat bound currently to keep mum until the tribunal hands down a decision. What they do then,,,will be telling.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just spoke to an Essendon supporter that reckons the players have claimed they had no idea that the injections contained anything illegal therefore they cannot be banned.

..........................sigh!

So to carry that to the extreme, clubs can inject anything into their players and it is ok so long as the players don't know what it is.

But there were no positive tests he claimed. It will all be thrown out.

I am staggered at the lack of understanding of some Essendon supporters.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just spoke to an Essendon supporter that reckons the players have claimed they had no idea that the injections contained anything illegal therefore they cannot be banned.

..........................sigh!

So to carry that to the extreme, clubs can inject anything into their players and it is ok so long as the players don't know what it is.

But there were no positive tests he claimed. It will all be thrown out.

I am staggered at the lack of understanding of some Essendon supporters.

Ignorance is bliss ManDee
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just spoke to an Essendon supporter that reckons the players have claimed they had no idea that the injections contained anything illegal therefore they cannot be banned.

..........................sigh!

So to carry that to the extreme, clubs can inject anything into their players and it is ok so long as the players don't know what it is.

But there were no positive tests he claimed. It will all be thrown out.

I am staggered at the lack of understanding of some Essendon supporters.

I'd imagine if this was happening to us, we'd have our fair share of supporters not wanting to face the facts as well. Coping mechanism and ignorance is bliss etc.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'd imagine if this was happening to us, we'd have our fair share of supporters not wanting to face the facts as well. Coping mechanism and ignorance is bliss etc.

If it was us the coach would have been sacked, the board would have stepped down and we would be under administration of the AFL. And this all would have happened 2 years ago.

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just spoke to an Essendon supporter that reckons the players have claimed they had no idea that the injections contained anything illegal therefore they cannot be banned.

..........................sigh!

So to carry that to the extreme, clubs can inject anything into their players and it is ok so long as the players don't know what it is.

But there were no positive tests he claimed. It will all be thrown out.

I am staggered at the lack of understanding of some Essendon supporters.

not just essendon folk that dont understand !!

Link to comment
Share on other sites


funny really....to all those dum dum bummers out there in la la land.. Put 3 words into search..ASADA, LOOK UP

thats all they had to do...time taken....no more than 10 secs....and all is revealed !!!

They've simply tried to be too clever by half....and now come a cropper.

Lions...Crucifixion.... Lions.....Crucifixion !!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ignorance is bliss ManDee

and yet its not an excuse :rolleyes:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

funny really....to all those dum dum bummers out there in la la land.. Put 3 words into search..ASADA, LOOK UP

thats all they had to do...time taken....no more than 10 secs....and all is revealed !!!

They've simply tried to be too clever by half....and now come a cropper.

Lions...Crucifixion.... Lions.....Crucifixion !!

1st the CEO

2nd the board

3rd the Hird

Then the players

Edited by ManDee
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Did anyone see an article in The Age Sat feb7 which referred to Sebastian Coe and concerns about widespread doping in Russia.

It would seem a little hypocritical if Australian officials on one hand are complaining about doping in sport (walking) which "denied" an Australian "a gold medal" while other Australian officials cannot complete an investigation into "Pharmacological Experimentation"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Did anyone see an article in The Age Sat feb7 which referred to Sebastian Coe and concerns about widespread doping in Russia.

It would seem a little hypocritical if Australian officials on one hand are complaining about doping in sport (walking) which "denied" an Australian "a gold medal" while other Australian officials cannot complete an investigation into "Pharmacological Experimentation"

Since when has hypocrisy been banned from World sport?

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

http://www.sen.com.au/news/a-short-sharp-ban-is-the-most-appealing-outcome

I disagree strongly, the situation is simple, if this club has cheated than it needs to man up and cop what's coming to it, they have fought the investigation ever step of the way, Robbo and his media team have carried out a media campaign trying to discredit and paint ASADA as the big bad wolf and Essendon as innocent victims.

The league needs to be very strong on the fact that Illegal or performance enhancing drug use is unacceptable under any circumstances and cannot go soft on anyone for it, much less this club who has appealed the legality of the investigation once, while it's coach has twice.

If they are found guilty is important that the punishment is not reflective of what is best for the EFC, or for the League in terms of getting them back on the field ASAP, it needs to send a message, and i suspect ASADA and WADA are hell bent on making sure that happens.

Edited by Sir Paul Roos
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lol, WADA would not allow a three game ban.

Hird must never be allowed near a sporting club, the players must miss six months min and the doc and administrators need to resign or be fired.

Then, then this can be buried.

I think that would be the minimum. And less and WADA will appeal.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lol, WADA would not allow a three game ban.

Hird must never be allowed near a sporting club, the players must miss six months min and the doc and administrators need to resign or be fired.

Then, then this can be buried.

I think that would be the minimum. And less and WADA will appeal.

Agree, i'm thinking lifetime bans from the AFL for Hird, Dank and whoever else was heavily involved if found guilty but i'd go as far as minimum 12 month bans for players backdated to the date of the infraction notices, if all that's been said in the media is true these players must have had suspicions something wasn't right long before the investigation even started.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Dear Mick....youre an idiot !!...or a stooge...or both

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Agree, i'm thinking lifetime bans from the AFL for Hird, Dank and whoever else was heavily involved if found guilty but i'd go as far as minimum 12 month bans for players backdated to the date of the infraction notices, if all that's been said in the media is true these players must have had suspicions something wasn't right long before the investigation even started.

How can you backdate when they are still training and continuing along with their normal,off-season activities? Saade got two years holiday from St. Kilda which also included training. I don' t see why Essendon players should be treated more leniently!

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

How can you backdate when they are still training and continuing along with their normal,off-season activities? Saade got two years holiday from St. Kilda which also included training. I don' t see why Essendon players should be treated more leniently!

There was no backdating for Saad because he fronted up and copped his punishment immediately

ASADA have also said that any provisional suspension will be backdated to the last date of competitive play, training is fine under a provisional suspension. Maybe not fair, but i guess the trade off is that they've already had the heat of the spotlight on them for 2 years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

ASADA have also said that any provisional suspension will be backdated to the last date of competitive play ...

Really?

Where did they say that?

The only guarantee I've seen from ASADA is that there are no guarantees. Suspensions are usually backdated to the issuing of IN's, which is when provisional suspension usually starts.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There was no backdating for Saad because he fronted up and copped his punishment immediately

ASADA have also said that any provisional suspension will be backdated to the last date of competitive play, training is fine under a provisional suspension. Maybe not fair, but i guess the trade off is that they've already had the heat of the spotlight on them for 2 years.

Please note..ASADA dont backdate as such. The media has invented this notion of backdating and run with it.

what WADA/ASADA does do is take note of any provisional suspensions served and take that OFF the overall period of ban. its a similar effect but I repeat there is NO backdating

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Please note..ASADA dont backdate as such. The media has invented this notion of backdating and run with it.

what WADA/ASADA does do is take note of any provisional suspensions served and take that OFF the overall period of ban. its a similar effect but I repeat there is NO backdating

I'm getting lost BB. Are they currently provisionally suspended? Can they train when p. suspended?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm getting lost BB. Are they currently provisionally suspended? Can they train when p. suspended?

well theres a 64 dollar question.. Yes they can. But strangely its only if they seek to compete does the clock reset

Whilst suspended they can not train , play or scratch themselves in the name of the game. til then its a bit murky.

Watson and Fletcher will have their game as IR reps noted. Will work against them...good !! everyone else is playing around in the cracks atm.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    GAMEDAY: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    It's Game Day and the Demons once again open the round of football with their annual clash against Richmond on ANZAC Eve. The Tigers, coached by former Dees champion and Premiership assistant coach Adem Yze have a plethora of stars missing due to injury but beware the wounded Tiger. The Dees will have to be switched on tonight. A win will keep them in the hunt for the Top 4 whilst a loss could see them fall out of the 8 for the first time since 2020.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 59

    TRAINING: Tuesday 23rd April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin ventured down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you his observations from this morning's Captain's Run including some hints at the changes for our ANZAC Eve clash against the Tigers. Sunny, though a touch windy, this morning, 23 of them no emergencies.  Forwards out first. Harrison Petty, JvR, Jack Billings, Kade Chandler, Kozzy, Bayley Fritsch, and coach Stafford.  The backs join them, Steven May, Jake Lever, Woey, Judd McVee, Blake Howes, Tom McDonald

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    OOZEE by The Oracle

    There’s a touch of irony in the fact that Adem Yze played his first game for Melbourne in Round 13, 1995 against the club he now coaches. For that game, he wore the number 44 guernsey and got six touches in a game the team won by 11 points.  The man whose first name was often misspelled, soon changed to the number 13 and it turned out lucky for him. He became a highly revered Demon with a record of 271 games during which his presence was acknowledged by the fans with the chant of “Oozee” wh

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews 3

    TRAINING: Friday 19th April 2024

    They are out for a run just as it starts raining. It didn't last long, ended up a reasonable session weather wise.  Light duties, BBB, rehab Farris-White, Melky, Salem and Spargo, all with private trainers. They are all playing soccer, huge amount of noise. 36-40 (difficult to get a count) in the main squad, biggest I've seen it in ages. Choco is barking out the orders. Goody has intense body language as he observes. Bowey in a lime green cap (no contact), and in the sim

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    ICEBREAKER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons have broken the ice for season 2024 with a pulsating come-from-behind victory over Port Melbourne in which it took the lead for the first time at the halfway mark of the final quarter. The game played in mild Autumn conditions in neutral territory at Kinetic Park, Frankston, never reached great heights in standard but it proved gripping in character at the end at the Casey Demons overcame the Borough to win by 15 points after trailing badly early in the second half.  P

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    MAULED by Whispering Jack

    The writing was on the wall from the very first bounce of the football. The big men went up, Max Gawn more often than not, decisively won the ruck hit out and invariably a Brisbane Lions onballer either won the battle on the ground or halved the contest and they went at it repeatedly until they finally won out. Melbourne managed the first goal from Alex Neal-Bullen but after that the visitors shut out every area of Demon presence around the ground except in the ruck duels. It was a mauling.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 4

    PREGAME: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    The Demons have a bye next week and have a 13 day break before they return to the MCG on ANZAC Eve to take on the Tigers. Who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 379

    PODCAST: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 15th April @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons loss at the MCG against the Lions in the Round 05. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat LIV

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 56

    VOTES: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    Last week Christian Petracca retook the outright lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Max Gawn, Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney. Your votes for the loss against the Lions. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 44
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 07

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 07 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 07

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    It's Game Day on ANZAC Eve & the Demons take on the Tigers, coached by former Dees champion & Premiership assistant Adem Yze. The Dees will have to be switched on tonight & a win will keep them in the hunt for the Top 4 whilst a loss could see them fall out of the 8 for the first time since 2020 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 24

  • Match Preview      

    OOZEE by The Oracle

    There’s a touch of irony in the fact that Adem Yze played his first game for Melbourne in Round 13, 1995 against the club he now coaches. For that game, he wore the number 44 guernsey and got six touches in a game the team won by 11 points ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 23

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 23rd April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin ventured down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you his observations from this morning's Captain's Run including some hints at the changes for our ANZAC Eve clash against the Tigers ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 23

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 06 vs Richmond

    The Demons have a bye next week and have a 13 day break before they return to the MCG on ANZAC Eve to take on the Tigers. Who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 19th April 2024

    Veteran Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin headed down to Gosch's Paddock today to bring you his observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 19

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The boys dissected the disappointing loss to Brisbane rueing our poor work at the stoppages, debated the role that fatigue played and lamenting the loss of Christian Salem ... LISTEN

    Demonland | April 16

  • Casey Report      

    ICE BREAKER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons have broken the ice for season 2024 with a pulsating come-from-behind victory over Port Melbourne in which it took the lead for the first time at the halfway mark of the final quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 14

  • Match Report      

    MAULED by Whispering Jack

    The writing was on the wall from the very first bounce of the football. The big men went up, Max Gawn more often than not, decisively won the ruck hit out and invariably a Brisbane Lions onballer either won the battle on the ground or halved the contest and they went at it repeatedly until they finally won out ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 12

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demons 4 game winning streak has come to an end after a disappointing loss against the Brisbane Lions at the MCG going down by 22 points ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    Last week Christian Petracca retook the outright lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Max Gawn, Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney. Your votes for the loss against the Lions. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Training  

    Wednesday, 10th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Demon Dynasty were once again on hand at this morning's Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 10

  • Training  

    Sunday, 7th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin ventured down in the rain to Gosch's Paddock for the Demon Family Series April School Holiday Open Training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 07

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 07

       vs   

    Wednesday 24th April 2024
    @ 07:25pm (MCG)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 1-2 Weeks
    Marty Hore Thumb 1-2 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 3 Weeks
    Christian Salem Hamstring 3-4 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 4-5 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 9-11 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Max Gawn 67
    2 Christian Petracca 55
    3 Steven May 35
    4 Jack Viney 28
    5 Alex Neal-Bullen 27
    6 Clayton Oliver 22
    7 Bayley Fritsch 19
    8 Trent Rivers 16
    9 Judd McVee 15
    10 Kade Chandler 14

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...