Team at Completion of Trading 2014

[Salems Lot 2,392]

Side for majority of year - assuming fit squad.

B: Jetta Dunn Frost

HB: Howe McDonald Salem

C: Cross Vince Lumumba

HF: Garland Dawes Viney

F: Garlett Hogan Gawn/Pedo

Ru: Jamar/Spencer Tyson N.Jones

Int: Grimes, Brayshaw, Kent, Riley

Emerg: Kennedy-Harris, Watts, Pick No.3.

Uhhm..why not Pick No.2 too?

[DeeSpencer 23,508]

Honestly?

I think the team on paper is weaker now than it was 12 months ago. Didn't think that was possible.

Hogan replaces Frawley. Clark, Byrnes, Clisby, Nicho and anyone else who is delisted gave us nothing gave us nothing. The only player who might decline is Cross.

So therefore anything we get from Lumumba, Garlett and Frost or draft picks will be improvements.

The issue is you have to keep improving each year just to stay the same. So we will need improvements from others from last year, we all know the names.

With the same level of injuries (excluding Clark of course) Melbourne 2015 clearly beats Melbourne 2014. It's just a matter of whether it's by enough to result in the same or more wins and percentage.

[DeeSpencer 23,508]

Uhhm..why not Pick No.2 too?

He (and a lot of others) have gone with Brayshaw (as the likely pick 2) on the bench. Given his size, shape, fitness and endurance he's a chance to play round 1, but I'll wait until we actually get him!

[Beats 190]

As others have said, you'd hope for improvement/ better years from Garland, Grimes, Kent, Hogan, Gawn, Viney, Salem, Toumpas.

Of the 22 players who played the most games in 2014 I'd be expecting the following changes for 2015:

Frawley (21 games) - replaced by Hogan (Hogan will have more impact in 2015 than Frawley did in 2014)

Bail (21 games) - replaced by Frost (Howe to take Bail's spot, Frost to play in the backline)

M. Jones (20 games) - replaced by Toumpas (hoping he shows why he was a top pick)

Cross (17 games) - replaced by Brayshaw(or Petracca )(expect Cross to play 10+ games, but if all are fit and well would think Brayshaw is played ahead of him)

Jamar (17 games) - replaced by Gawn (hoping Gawn can stay fit and make that 1st ruck spot his)

Terlich (15 games) - replaced by Lumumba (big improvement)

JKH (14 games) - replaced by Garlett (same deal as Cross, expect 10+ games, but if all are fit and well Garlett is ahead of him)

Assuming Roos takes in a similar game plan/ team structure, barring injury I'd say we're in a better position than 2014.

Team:

B Frost, Dunn, Jetta

HB Garland, Mcdonald, Grimes

R Gawn, Tyson, Viney

C Lumumba, N. Jones, Vince

HF Kent, Dawes, Howe

F Garlett, Hogan, Pedersen

INT Watts, Salem, Toumpas, Brayshaw (sub)

RES Jamar, Cross, JKH

May be rotated out depending on the opposition team:

Garland/ Grimes for another mid/ more run,

Kent for JKH/ Bail,

Toumpas/ Salem for Michie/ Riley/ Barry/ M.Jones

[Maggot 1977 263]

Like the look of the side Beats, but I think there is no doubt that Cross would be in the starting 22.

[sam in sydney 14]

when will you kids learn on demonland.

Roosy doesnt play kids .

Learn from the Sydney model

Lets Brayshaw & pick 3 & Strech learn at Casey for a year or 2

You kids wont Schwab , Connelly & Prendergast back dont you

lets start world war 3 again

[Mydee 288]

I expect Colin Sylvia to have a break out year.

In hives?

[1964nowMORE 449]

FB Jetta Dunn Hogan

B Grimes McDonald Vince

C Lumumba Tyson Watts

HF Kent Dawes Howe

FF Garlett Garland Pederson

R Gawn Viney Jones

Bench Frost Salem M Jones Michie

emerg pick 2, JKH, Jamar

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,576]

Here's my team round 1:

FB: Jetta McDonald Garland

HB: Grimes Frost Dunn

M: Vince Jones Lumumba

HF: Kent Hogan Watts

F: Garlett Dawes Howe

R: Jamar Tyson Viney

Int: Cross Salem Gawn Sub: JKH

[radar 1,858]

B Frost Dunn Jetta

HB Garland McDonald Lumumba

C Vince Jones Howe

HF Kent Dawes Watts

F Garlett Hogan Salem

Fol Gawn Tyson Viney

I/C Fitzpatrick Michie Riley Cross

Em Kennedy-Harris, Toumpas, Grimes

In the mix: Pedersen, Bail, Terlich, Jamar, Spencer

Developing: Barry, Hunt, King, Stretch, Harmes?, ND2, ND3, ND40...

Senior Fringe Depth: M Jones, McKenzie, Evans, Georgiou?

LTI: Trengove

Good depth of ball winning mids.

Good spread of goalkickers.

Grimes is the big out. Really needs to improve his kicking. Suspect he will be in Roosy's best 22.

I would like to see that team, in black texta on Friday morning in my butcher shop window.

[P-man 13,277]

Ideal best 22 by season's end.

B: Jetta Dunn Frost

HB: Garland McDonald Lumumba

C: Vince N Jones Toumpas

HF: Howe Dawes Watts

F: Garlett Hogan JKH

R: Gawn Tyson Brayshaw

Int: Viney, Michie, Salem (Kent)

E: Grimes, Cross, Pedersen, Riley, Barry

[hardtack 10,158]

I get the feeling we will be seeing a lot more of Barry next year. He was starting to show glimpses at season's end, and with another full pre-season, I can see him adding some bulk and becoming a very useful player.

[WERRIDEE 5,251]

when will you kids learn on demonland.

Roosy doesnt play kids .

Learn from the Sydney model

Lets Brayshaw & pick 3 & Strech learn at Casey for a year or 2

You kids wont Schwab , Connelly & Prendergast back dont you

lets start world war 3 again

Roos not playing kids is a myth.

Kennedy-Harris played round 1.

Hogan would of played if fit.

Salem played in round 6 after having very little preseason and only playing a couple of games in the VFL.

Tyson is only 21.

Unlike Sydney we have to play kids because our senior experience is just not that good.

So my team would be.

B: JETTA, FROST, DUNN

HB: GRIMES, MCDONALD, LUMUMBA

C: BRAYSHAW, N.JONES, CROSS

HF: VINEY, HOGAN, HOWE

F: MCCARTIN, DAWES, GARLETT

FOLL: JAMAR, VINCE, TYSON

IC: WATTS, GAWN, GARLAND

SUB: KENT

[DeeSpencer 23,508]

with Frost and Lumumba on board it seems the general consensus is Howe will move back forward

I think that would be ideal considering how pathetic we were this season up forward, and he will be the perfect foil for Hogan and Dawes, with Garlett, Kent and JKH crumbing them

my ideal forward line is

HF - Watts Dawes Kent

F - Howe Hogan Garlett

McCartin in there if we draft him obviously

I think that's pretty much everyone's ideal forward line, with a 2nd ruck on the bench and midfielders rotating through that half forward spots.

If we do draft McCartin or Wright I expect both of them to see significant time in the VFL.

When it comes to Howe I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in the backline. His intercept marking is a weapon and he's our best kick from half back, no matter how sad that sounds. Lumumba I think will move between wing and half back and Frost and McDonald may even be forced in to a bit of friendly competition to nail down spots. A lot depends on the form and fitness of Dunn, Garland and Grimes and whether they are effectively moving the ball from the backline. If they aren't then I expect Howe will be back there in an instant.

[DeeSpencer 23,508]

when will you kids learn on demonland.

Roosy doesnt play kids .

Learn from the Sydney model

I cbf'ed looking up the stats but I remember Hannebery getting a taste whilst he was at school then straight in the team the next year. Parker similarly.

Brayshaw has the height, strength and size to play very early. And the fitness if he gets through preseason. If we do recruit him he'll be treated the same way in JKH in that he'll be given the opportunities in preseason to push his case.

I believe he's born in the first week of January and finished school last year anyway. So he'll be ready to go for a big preseason.

That said he's not even locked in for us anyone. So no point naming him in prospective teams. And when it comes to any young talls we draft I wouldn't expect to see them in the team any time soon.

[jackaub 1,402]

when will you kids learn on demonland.

Roosy doesnt play kids .

Learn from the Sydney model

Lets Brayshaw & pick 3 & Strech learn at Casey for a year or 2

You kids wont Schwab , Connelly & Prendergast back dont you

lets start world war 3 again

Trouble is our kids learn stuff all playing for Casey In fact it starts the losing attitude that our teams exhibit

[What 18,810]

Jack Grimes better go to kicking school over the summer

As of right now I cant even put him in our best 22

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

I think that's pretty much everyone's ideal forward line, with a 2nd ruck on the bench and midfielders rotating through that half forward spots.

If we do draft McCartin or Wright I expect both of them to see significant time in the VFL.

When it comes to Howe I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in the backline. His intercept marking is a weapon and he's our best kick from half back, no matter how sad that sounds. Lumumba I think will move between wing and half back and Frost and McDonald may even be forced in to a bit of friendly competition to nail down spots. A lot depends on the form and fitness of Dunn, Garland and Grimes and whether they are effectively moving the ball from the backline. If they aren't then I expect Howe will be back there in an instant.

Not sure the second ruck will play from the bench. Limited rotations pressure coaches to play the second ruck, usually in the forward pocket, for considerable portions of any game. If Jamar continues as 1st ruck, I could see Gawn playing a lot in the forward line in 2015.

[jimbo1982 82]

Demons 2015

FB: Jetta Frost Garland (Grimes*)

HB: Dunn McDonald Lumumba

C: Kent (Bail*) Viney (Vince*) Salem (Toumpas*)

HF: Watts Dawes Pederson

FF: Howe Hogan Garlett (JKH*)

Foll: Jamar (Spencer*) Jones Tyson (Cross*)

Int: Vince, Cross, Spencer

Emerg: Bail, Grimes, JKH, Toumpas

Future: Trengove, Stretch, Barry, ND2, ND3

[Maggot 1977 263]

No Gawn Jimbo ?

[InVINCEable 358]

when will you kids learn on demonland.

Roosy doesnt play kids .

Learn from the Sydney model

Lets Brayshaw & pick 3 & Strech learn at Casey for a year or 2

You kids wont Schwab , Connelly & Prendergast back dont you

lets start world war 3 again

Dan Hanneberry says howdy.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Back: Jetta Dunn Garland

Half Back: Lamumba McDonald Grimes

Centre: Vince Viney Cross

Half Forward: Watts Pedersen Kent

Forward: Hogan Dawes Garlett

Rucks: Jamar Tyson N.Jones

Int: M.Jones Salem Howe

Sub: Kennedy-Harris

Emerg: Gawn Michie Riley

[Nascent 7,475]

when will you kids learn on demonland.

Roosy doesn't play kids .

Learn from the Sydney model

Lets Brayshaw & pick 3 & Strech learn at Casey for a year or 2

You kids wont Schwab , Connelly & Prendergast back dont you

lets start world war 3 again

You do realise that Salem and Kennedy-Harris played 12 & 14 games respectively in their 1st year? Our new draftees don't need the pressure and expectation of being the driving force behind our improvement. That doesn't mean they can't contribute by playing a role if fit and able.

[True Heart 115]

I think we are in a better position that 2014 purely based on our team on paper. There is no doubt we will improve, I just don't think we will improve enough to win more games.

[The Chazz 4,077]

I can't wait for the year that we do this and we don't feel obligated to put in our first round draft pick/s, a developing player we picked up in the trade period, and a delisted player that "slipped" to pick 2 in the preseason draft.

We are getting there, still a little way off yet, but it's happening.