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2 and 3 is too much surley. Try for a Tyson like deal involving a player plus plus a lower top ten pick then pick 2 plus pick 9ish?

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I would not give picks 2 & 3 for him (if we get 3 for Frawley), we would need their first round pick back.

You must be crazy

I don't need to list all the top 5 picks we have completely wasted in the last decade do I? Not one of them has gotten close to Dangerfield.

For a proven star of the comp, you bet it is worth it

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Even if Dangerfield becomes available this year AND we land ourselves the box seat, don't be fooled into believing he'll come cheap.

We hold the pocket aces but our list is in such a terminal state that during the trade discussion, it is always advantage Adelaide. Losing Dangerfield will hurt but they have a talented younger list coming through inc. Talia, Smith, the Crouch brothers, Jenkins, Lynch and Kerridge.

Pick 2 + Trengove / Toumpas will not suffice. Both picks will go. That's the long and short of it.

And it comes with the likelihood that in 1-5 years time, Petracca and / or Brayshaw are tearing it up elsewhere. Let the media hogs have their feed in the trough.

Because Dangerfield brings not just a pure talent like those draftees but leadership which will mould our players on the field - the way Roos is doing in the box. That has been the plan set out by Roos from day one - a culture change.

We will have to pay overs to land Dangerfield. But we must - get - him. This is the only way up and it will incite real change among the club.

We'll then they can lose him for the lousy compo the AFL will give them next year then if they're going to be greedy idiots.

I love Patty, but 2 & 3 is overs considering how those picks can be played in a market looking for a strong forward.

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You must be crazy

I don't need to list all the top 5 picks we have completely wasted in the last decade do I? Not one of them has gotten close to Dangerfield.

For a proven star of the comp, you bet it is worth it

Opinions vary, mine says pDanger for 2 & 3 is overs, if we got their first round pick back then it's a great deal.

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Opinions vary, mine says pDanger for 2 & 3 is overs, if we got their first round pick back then it's a great deal.

and that is what it most likely would be if 2 and 3 on the table

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Of course you would think it's a great deal. For us.

You have to please the other guy, too.

Or, we can just wait with our money, our pipe dreams and a (still) disgracefully poor list in free-agency 2015 where half-a-dozen clubs bump us to the back of the queue. Your call.

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and that is what it most likely would be if 2 and 3 on the table

I have a problem with trading everything for the messiah player. With our luck he does a knee and we have got nothing.

We need a number of good players rather than one champion. I would rather go for that.

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Overs and unders have to be assessed at the end of the trade period, not one deal in isolation.

What did you start with, and what did you end with...

I'll trust Roos, Viney, Taylor and Mahoney to deliver us a much improved position.

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Even if Dangerfield becomes available this year AND we land ourselves the box seat, don't be fooled into believing he'll come cheap.

We hold the pocket aces but our list is in such a terminal state that during the trade discussion, it is always advantage Adelaide. Losing Dangerfield will hurt but they have a talented younger list coming through inc. Talia, Smith, the Crouch brothers, Jenkins, Lynch and Kerridge.

Pick 2 + Trengove / Toumpas will not suffice. Both picks will go. That's the long and short of it.

And it comes with the likelihood that in 1-5 years time, Petracca and / or Brayshaw are tearing it up elsewhere. Let the media hogs have their feed in the trough.

Because Dangerfield brings not just a pure talent like those draftees but leadership which will mould our players on the field - the way Roos is doing in the box. That has been the plan set out by Roos from day one - a culture change.

We will have to pay overs to land Dangerfield. But we must - get - him. This is the only way up and it will incite real change among the club.

God, the Purple Headed Warrior would have an absolute field day if that happened. [censored].

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I have a problem with trading everything for the messiah player. With our luck he does a knee and we have got nothing.

We need a number of good players rather than one champion. I would rather go for that.

2 and 3 for danger and 10 is not trading everything

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I have a problem with trading everything for the messiah player. With our luck he does a knee and we have got nothing.

We need a number of good players rather than one champion. I would rather go for that.

Totally agree. During the FS on Thursday night he was asked about his physical condition and admitted that he was having a few on-going problems (didn't elaborate).

Can't help but feel that we are mortgaging our future by giving up the chance to get at least 1 elite young player this year. Happy to have him but we still need to build for the future.

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Because Dangerfield brings not just a pure talent like those draftees but leadership which will mould our players on the field - the way Roos is doing in the box. That has been the plan set out by Roos from day one - a culture change.

I've not seen or heard anything about Dangerfield that says he will bring leadership to the club.

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we still need to build for the future.

that is an approach we started this time 7 years ago and we are no better off now then we were then. One of the reasons is because we have had no quality senior players around the place. All we have been doing is sending kids out to get thumped every week and as a result nobody developed properly and our culture has suffered greatly

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To hell with Dangerfield, go after Sloane.

Apologise unconditionally to both him and his family for our monumental draft f-up.

Sure Dangerfield looks good and has a few monster games a year, but Sloane is way more consistent and wins just as many games off his boot as Dangerfield does.

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Of course you would think it's a great deal. For us.

You have to please the other guy, too.

Or, we can just wait with our money, our pipe dreams and a (still) disgracefully poor list in free-agency 2015 where half-a-dozen clubs bump us to the back of the queue. Your call.

You have to be aggressive though without sacrificing everything. It's called strategising- using what you have for maximum gain. You don't just throw out 2 high picks for one good player when they can get you at least a couple of players we need.

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that is an approach we started this time 7 years ago and we are no better off now then we were then. One of the reasons is because we have had no quality senior players around the place. All we have been doing is sending kids out to get thumped every week and as a result nobody developed properly and our culture has suffered greatly

Nicely selected half a sentence and then presented out of context!

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To hell with Dangerfield, go after Sloane.

Apologise unconditionally to both him and his family for our monumental draft f-up.

Sure Dangerfield looks good and has a few monster games a year, but Sloane is way more consistent and wins just as many games off his boot as Dangerfield does.

I can't see that having any effect...

It's not as though he's annoyed at us and secretly wants to play for the MFC but was waiting for an apology.

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