Melbourne asks for draft assistance

[beelzebub 23,379]

Forget Hurley. He is a girl. And I'd rather have Watts - thats saying something.

Given the success of our Women's team some would sternly argue thats a distinct upgrade then

[beelzebub 23,379]

Hawthorn have some on their board who believe in the theory of not drafting kids.

As with PR,their idea is let other clubs waste time and effort in development and then trade in when the player hits maturity and best .

That way you know what your getting and what the cost is,

Its the smart way, but as some have somewhat rightly pointed out its really only available , in the main , to the more successful clubs. Its definitely the way I'd weight current and future dealings. You might pay a little more later but your strike rate at getting what you want/need goes through the roof as opposed ours, through the floor !!

[P-man 13,366]

Hurley on the weekend had 27 disposals and 2 goals. If Watts did that he'd get a 2 month reprieve from any criticism.

[rjay 24,940]

Hawthorn have some on their board who believe in the theory of not drafting kids.

As with PR,their idea is let other clubs waste time and effort in development and then trade in when the player hits maturity and best .

That way you know what your getting and what the cost is,

So I guess they were against drafting Roughy, Buddy, Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Cyril, should I go on.

They've cherry picked some players over the last few years because their access to the draft was limited by them finishing top 4 and the introduction of expansion teams. Don't let them fool you with this dribble.

Never listen to board members, they are full of their own importance and have nothing to do with list management anyway. This might be what they believe but it's plainly wrong. They topped up a good list that was achieved through the draft and that is a clever strategy given the conditions.

[jazza 1,323]

Dont think i was fooled.

But the thrust was ,its worth trading No1 -etc etc for a proven,ie dangerfield,cameron,buddy,etc etc.

They way everybody speaks about our last decade of recruitment,its maybe a better way to go.

[rjay 24,940]

Dont think i was fooled.

But the thrust was ,its worth trading No1 -etc etc for a proven,ie dangerfield,cameron,buddy,etc etc.

They way everybody speaks about our last decade of recruitment,its maybe a better way to go.

If we can't get it right now, we should shut up shop.

[beelzebub 23,379]

Dont think i was fooled.

But the thrust was ,its worth trading No1 -etc etc for a proven,ie dangerfield,cameron,buddy,etc etc.

They way everybody speaks about our last decade of recruitment,its maybe a better way to go.

Not only is it a known entity but its immediate. On a good day its 2-3 years by our experience before you can really consider a draftee to impact games...the good ol 30-40 games etc.

trading in a rtr is smart I reckon. The clever clubs still pick a few kids etc but more middle order or r rookie.

All of this is Risk Management 101

am 100% in favour of it.

[rjay 24,940]

Not only is it a known entity but its immediate. On a good day its 2-3 years by our experience before you can really consider a draftee to impact games...the good ol 30-40 games etc.

trading in a rtr is smart I reckon. The clever clubs still pick a few kids etc but more middle order or r rookie.

All of this is Risk Management 101

am 100% in favour of it.

They have had no choice...and they've all built their success on the back of the draft.

[beelzebub 23,379]

They have had no choice...and they've all built their success on the back of the draft.

they do have choice rjay...where and when..

[rjay 24,940]

they do have choice rjay...where and when..

They haven't had the picks available to them, so no they didn't have a choice.

You don't think Hawthorn, Geelong or Freo would have picked Boyd, Aish and Kelly for example if they had the pick available.

[beelzebub 23,379]

They haven't had the picks available to them, so no they didn't have a choice.

You don't think Hawthorn, Geelong or Freo would have picked Boyd, Aish and Kelly for example if they had the pick available.

thats not their focus....theyd pick ONE up later. let someone else have the running in problems etc.

[jazza 1,323]

They haven't had the picks available to them, so no they didn't have a choice.

You don't think Hawthorn, Geelong or Freo would have picked Boyd, Aish and Kelly for example if they had the pick available.

Would they have taken Watts,Bail,Trengove,Grimes,tapscott.

Not looking for an argument here,you throw only boyd aish kelly into the mix.

After the last decade and the list we currently have,would last year trading the way PR did to get tyson and then this year adding 2 more to the list through swapping 4 top 20 picks for 2 well credentialed ?

[rjay 24,940]

Would they have taken Watts,Bail,Trengove,Grimes,tapscott.

Not looking for an argument here,you throw only boyd aish kelly into the mix.

After the last decade and the list we currently have,would last year trading the way PR did to get tyson and then this year adding 2 more to the list through swapping 4 top 20 picks for 2 well credentialed ?

Only because it's the last draft.

These clubs have all built a solid list based on the draft then added players from there. Geelong have also had the father/ son advantage.

It's to easy for them to say they wouldn't take high picks, they have and they would if they were available.

Gotta go....

[jazza 1,323]

Only because it's the last draft.

These clubs have all built a solid list based on the draft then added players from there. Geelong have also had the father/ son advantage.

It's to easy for them to say they wouldn't take high picks, they have and they would if they were available.

Gotta go....

would swap picks 3/4 and 19 for dangerfield or that type.

And then next year have another look at whats available.

[Pennant St Dee 13,190]

Forget Hurley. He is a girl. And I'd rather have Watts - thats saying something.

Watch Hurleys first year especially the Round 22 game vs Hawks when he stood up as a KPF, watch his last 6 weeks as a key defender

Has done more than Watts and has him well and truly covered

[daisycutter 29,616]

but watts has got a better haircut than hurley

in fact anyone has

[jnrmac 20,097]

I suggest that you are in need of a holiday jnr

It has after all been a very stressful year following the Dees.

Can't disagree!!

[jnrmac 20,097]

Hurley on the weekend had 27 disposals and 2 goals. If Watts did that he'd get a 2 month reprieve from any criticism.

The stats for Watts and Hurley are roughly line ball for the season and for their careers. We would get nothing by swapping the two and Hurley has clearly played in a betetr performing side.

He's still a girl.

[P-man 13,366]

The stats for Watts and Hurley are roughly line ball for the season and for their careers. We would get nothing by swapping the two and Hurley has clearly played in a betetr performing side.

He's still a girl.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in a mad rush to get Hurley. But right now I'd certainly have him ahead of Watts. Don't need stats to determine that.

[titan_uranus 25,020]

I've got no issue not getting a pp so long as Frawley's compo pick is 3.

By definition, compensation brings you back to square 1, rather than makes you better off.

Getting pick 3, or anything, for Frawley is no argument against getting a PP.

[Macca 16,972]

Melb has received 3 PP. 2 Before first round, 1 after 1st round. - Sylvia, Blease Scully

Haw has received 2 PP. Both before first round. Roughead, Ellis.

TJ was a priority pick in '97. We held pick 2 in that draft as well and traded it to Freo for White.

White was later embroiled somehow in our salary cap breaches (at the time) and we duly lost our no.5 pick to Freo in the '99 draft. They ended up with picks 4 & 5 in that '99 draft and selected Pavlich and Leigh Brown ... just another top 5 pick squandered (we find a way)

In 2001, the Hawks traded Croad to Freo for their priority pick (no.1 overall) ... they then selected Hodge with that pick.

[felixdacat 459]

Hurley 2 words - Ponytail Uggh

[Bingo 305]

I don't understand that tool Barrett.

I just watched his and Gary's review of melbourne on the AFL website and he basically says that he can't see Melbourne turning it around next year.

He also states that we haven't finished in the finals since 2006...and predicts that not much will change next year and we'll finish in the bottom couple of teams.

So why the hell don't we deserve a priority pick Damian? Don't you think that 8 year is enough for all of us suffering Demons supporters FFS!

[rjay 24,940]

I don't understand that tool Barrett.

I just watched his and Gary's review of melbourne on the AFL website and he basically says that he can't see Melbourne turning it around next year.

He also states that we haven't finished in the finals since 2006...and predicts that not much will change next year and we'll finish in the bottom couple of teams.

So why the hell don't we deserve a priority pick Damian? Don't you think that 8 year is enough for all of us suffering Demons supporters FFS!

Don't bother either watching or trying...

[olisik 4,060]

Facebook page rumour saying GC has tabled 800k * 6 yr deal for Frawley due to cap space from Carmichael Hunt leaving.