how was his game time? Lets not jump the gun here people.

Hes a no trying bad egg, Gerard Healy said before the game he could be the type of player to get Freo over the line in a GF , he won't play 12 games this year under Lyon he's finished .

how was his game time? Lets not jump the gun here people.

usually i would take game time into account,

but unless he only played for half a quarter, 4 or 5 disposals or whatever it was - isn't the standard of a player that just signed a 3 year contract with last years runners up.

Glad to have vince instead.

Jeff Farmer, Beamer Moloney, Darren Jolly, Earl Spalding, I think I can remember Steven Armstrong even having a good one against us.

As I recall Barassi had an ordinary game** with the Cheaters against us in 1965

** by his usual lofty consistent standards

Five possessions!

I must have missed four of them.

Ambulance chasers bagging Col!

From big footy.....

"When do we officially get worried about Sylvia? Five disposals at 20% efficiency. That's ******* laughable for an experienced AFL player.

Surely a chance to play for Peel round 1 now."

Imagine if Jones had his skills???

Its all about attitude & work ethic!

Give me 18 Jones on the park any day!

Geez, which one would play ruck dees64?

Ambulance chasers bagging Col!

Correct weight.

I have a plan for Col. He has a strong case for misrepresentation against the Fremantle recruiter who said they would turn him into a star at Dockerland.

Would be pretty devastating for Col if he can't break into their best 22. Imagine if he misses finals.

Vince's best football isn't far behind Nathan Jones, it's just that Vince doesn't quite have the consistency of Jones.

If we can get the best out of Bernie, then we'll be all the better for it.

Vince's best football is a lot better than Jones'

Sylvia's been going like a busted arse on the track. Been running 12 mins-plus in their 3k time trials.

lol @ Colin SYlvia

Exposed so badly now hes playing with a professional team

And if he had stayed here under Roos he would have been exposed to

Just an unprofessional showpony, nothing more

I keep saying that Col is not that good, he doesn't and never has had the potential that others see in him.

If he's to make it at Freo it's as a lead up forward, he never has been a midfielder and never will be, hence 20% efficiency. The only way Col's disposal efficiency goes up is if he kicks some goals. He's never been able to hit a short target which is a big part of the Lyon game plan.

Even Jamie Bennell managed 7 ...

See that 'old dee', Bennell has become a possession winning machine. Who would have thought.

They do have him at 100% disposal efficiency but I remember one handball that hit the deck on the way to a teammate who got buried. I guess it got to him, puts a bit more doubt on those stats for me though.

Colin playing for a team on the wrong side of an 84 point drubbing. He would have felt right at home

Limited player, struggling with injuries over the preseason and then struggling with fitness (this is much different to kid gloves that Melbourne treated him with where we'd let him just plug away in rehab training and then preseason games) and learning a new system of play.

I'm not going to knock the blokes endeavour too much yet because he actually put in pretty hard in 2013 for us.

But what we are seeing is a reflection of:
1. We were a pretty crap team with bad standards

2. Sylvia is injury prone, doesn't have a strong fitness base, isn't a natural ball winner and doesn't use the ball very well. I actually think Freo were aware of most of this when they got him.

We can't judge the fight and dedication for hard work that Sylvia may or may not have until he's been there for half a season and shown what he will do.

Col was not the only Docker looking like he did want to be there.

They were woeful according to the radio broadcast.

73% game time for 5 possessions @ 20% DE according to afl.com.

Rivers was terrific last night. A sad loss.

who gives a flying [censored] about Rivers or any of them, l hope they fail badly, all of the turncoats.

Two points -

It seems we've been very lucky overall with the players we lost/traded in recent years, right back to Travis Johnstone for pick 14.

Could people making excuses like 'they never had a chance to develop in such a bad team' just shut the h3ll up, seriously. Some of the game's top players spent huge chunks of their careers, early, middle or late, in absolutely train wrecks. Just, shush.

Vince's best football is a lot better than Jones'

Sylvia's been going like a busted arse on the track. Been running 12 mins-plus in their 3k time trials.

That's what I would expect from a ruckman at the first training session for a B Grade amateur club, not AFL. Clearly unfit and should not have played. Lyon wasn't taking the game seriously.

5 possessions in his freo debut v WCE.

Looked totally dejected on the bench.

I saw the stats and assumed he was the sub.

I saw the stats and assumed he was the sub.

Started on the interchange but never really got into the game and didn't appear to have a role to play. His leaving us at this time might well turn out to be a bad career move for him.

If only the guy had a good preseason he would be a gun !

See that 'old dee', Bennell has become a possession winning machine. Who would have thought.

They do have him at 100% disposal efficiency but I remember one handball that hit the deck on the way to a teammate who got buried. I guess it got to him, puts a bit more doubt on those stats for me though.

Oh Hell why did we let him go!

That is twice his MFC average.

7 he might make double figures one day.

Col was not the only Docker looking like he did want to be there.

They were woeful according to the radio broadcast.

Does anyone else smack their head with incredulity when someone makes a definitive statement, and then refers to the fact they heard it second-hand from a radio broadcast?

Just... Argh! How stupid can you be?!

Sorry, no other word for it.

Would be pretty devastating for Col if he can't break into their best 22. Imagine if he misses finals.

For which club exactly?