Training - Monday 9th December, 2013

[Moonshadow 17,678]

DRAFT TYLER ROOS NOW!!!

[Machsy 2,858]

Great training report, Rog.

Well done in braving the elements, too.

I hope you get to many more this preseason.

Does anyone else think it's strange to hear the coach's son training with the players?

Funny, cos I definitely saw him in the white ribbon walk, stride by stride next to Watts.

Looked like he'd be holding his hand, if Watts would let him.

Not sure there's anything wrong with it... but I don't think it's standard fare.

[hardtack 10,965]

^ ^ ^ ^

So much for all of the bolding

[Earl Hood 6,152]

Whats the story with Tyler Roos? Big Fs prospect for Sydney?

Or Brisbane (Fitzroy)? How old is this kid anyway?

[daisycutter 29,903]

Whats the story with Tyler Roos? Big Fs prospect for Sydney?

not eligible for swans

roos only had 87 games for swans

is eligible for paddle pops because >100 games with royboys

that is if he elects to be a fs

[DeeSpencer 26,461]

not eligible for swans

roos only had 87 games for swans

is eligible for paddle pops because >100 games with royboys

that is if he elects to be a fs

Sounds ideal for him to head up there whilst his old man coaches us then come back when Roos is in another capacity with the club

[JJJ 1,341]

I also attended training with a few hardy fans.

I don't really get into giving a blow by blow account of drills etc. Just observe a select few.

Hogan. Funny gait when he runs but otherwise was a real standout. Did a few things that made me pretty excited. Great 1st touch in awful conditions and gives maximum effort at all times. Kicking was great. His marking, better ...

Watts. Liked him today. Used the ball brilliantly. A couple of gathers below his knees at speed were a highlight but his general sense of purpose and running was impressive.

Toumpas. Looks slimmer through the hips and thighs and was covering the ground well. Thought his kicking was pretty poor but his voice and run was surprising to me. Ive met him previously and thought he was a great kid but it was great to see him speak up. Leading Teams influence?

Frawley. Gun. His encouragement of his teammates during the running drills was great.

Trengove. Still slowish but his real problem seems to be his lateral movement. Changing direction at speed is terrible. He lost a few contests based on this alone. Definitely looks slimmer though.

Mitch. Moving better than 2 weeks ago. He looks better than I thought he would but I am determined to keep a lid on it.

Cross. Loves to work. Made some of our better runners from previous years look a little silly. Worryingly, he doesn't look as slow at the MFC as he did at the Dogs. Kicking was better than advertised and was excellent at the competitive drills.

Michie. This bloke is massive. Kicking was a fraction inconsistent but runs well, covers the ground with enough speed and is very strong for a mid. Hogan aside, this guy was the highlight.

Nicholson. His skills are embarrassing. Reckon he missed 3 targets by a total of 50+ metres.

Howe. Playing as a 3rd/4th tall he will be dangerous. His marking today was top notch and he hit targets. It could just be me but he looks bigger than this time last year. Trained with a lot of intensity which I thought he lacked last preseason. Very impressive.

Bail. See Nicho.

The new draftees:

Salem. Neat kick in sloppy conditions but he is smaller in person than I thought. He needs to develop his body. Really quickly. Took a nice mark right in front of me which surprised and and then sliced a kick to a leading forward. Did it all very easily. Tools all seem to be there.

Jay KH. Smooth. Runs well and hit targets at will. He is small. I actually really like him. During the full length drill he duffed a kick, ran hard to be an option, got ignored, continued to run, received the ball and kicked a goal around the corner. Hands on knees and looking like he was going to vomit, he noticed the ball from the next drill spill, so he picked up the ball and repeated the same drill. No hesitation. A few of the older players didn't do that when the opportunity presented.

Pitt? Is that his name? Has a hitch in his kicking technique which will be difficult to eradicate but he just floats over the turf when he runs up and down the ground.

Overall the skill level was not bad, usual suspects aside, and the enthusiasm and voice was good. The style of play was kind of on show throughout the drills. Congested, competitive drills with quick hands and strong tackling and then full length drills with player breaking away from defence and kicking to a player leading toward goal. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how we will be playing.

[Earl Hood 6,152]

Not sure who Pitt is supposed to be? Harmes, Max King? Interesting about Nicho I can't understand how full time footballers can not learn to kick a ball accurately over say 25 to 30 metres! I agree it is a real skill to deliver a ball over 50 meters to a target but 25!

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

Thanks guys for all the reports, much appreciated.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

I am really surprised how Trenners has deteriorated over the past couple of years.

2 years ago, I thought he was our toughest, talented mid fielder / forward I had seen at the MFC for many a year.

2013 was a real disaster. I am really worried that with giving up the captaincy, his confidence that remains is totally shot.

Throw in the new Mids we've added, no wonder his confidence is down.

[Demon Disciple 12,483]

By the end of 2011, Trengove was playing some really good consistent football. Since then he has gone backwards and fast. Sure, MN wasn't the best thing for Trengove's development, but surely, one person cannot alone be responsible for such a step backwards.

[ChaserJ 5,189]

Not sure who Pitt is supposed to be? Harmes, Max King? Interesting about Nicho I can't understand how full time footballers can not learn to kick a ball accurately over say 25 to 30 metres! I agree it is a real skill to deliver a ball over 50 meters to a target but 25!

I figured JJJ meant Jayden Hunt. Possibly got him confused with Jayden Pitt.

[The Great Pretender 480]

I figured JJJ meant Jayden Hunt. Possibly got him confused with Jayden Pitt.

So who's Jayden Pitt?

[Earl Hood 6,152]

So who's Jayden Pitt?

Yes good point who is Jayden Pitt?

[bing181 9,436]

Yes good point who is Jayden Pitt?

Young Freemantle mid, only played a few games. Forced to retire this year due to a heart condition.

[daisycutter 29,903]

Young Freemantle mid, only played a few games. Forced to retire this year due to a heart condition.

that's pretty rough for someone so young

[Earl Hood 6,152]

Young Freemantle mid, only played a few games. Forced to retire this year due to a heart condition.

Sorry to hear this news! Life can be cruel.

[Roger Mellie 4,179]

Overall the skill level was not bad, usual suspects aside, and the enthusiasm and voice was good. The style of play was kind of on show throughout the drills. Congested, competitive drills with quick hands and strong tackling and then full length drills with player breaking away from defence and kicking to a player leading toward goal. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how we will be playing.

Great report thanks JJJ

[Roger Mellie 4,179]

Great training report, Rog.

Tee hee

[bing181 9,436]

Sorry to hear this news! Life can be cruel.

As someone with a heart condition myself, I don't know that I'd be jumping to too many conclusions without knowing more. There are heart conditions and heart conditions, and just because playing AFL football might be a risk, it doesn't mean he/one can't live a full, more-or-less normal life. If you Google him, it seems that he's hopeful of finding a solution so that he can return to footy, but for the moment, it seems to be not possible.

Back to the training reports …. thanks to the couple who braved it.

[P-man 13,367]

Thanks for that report, although admittedly my heart sank a little reading on Trengove.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,110]

Salem. Neat kick in sloppy conditions but he is smaller in person than I thought. He needs to develop his body. Really quickly. Took a nice mark right in front of me which surprised and and then sliced a kick to a leading forward. Did it all very easily. Tools all seem to be there.

That was something they were saying when they drafted him. Great kick and a surprisingly good mark for his size. Good to see it's true.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I am really surprised how Trenners has deteriorated over the past couple of years.

2 years ago, I thought he was our toughest, talented mid fielder / forward I had seen at the MFC for many a year.

2013 was a real disaster. I am really worried that with giving up the captaincy, his confidence that remains is totally shot.

Throw in the new Mids we've added, no wonder his confidence is down.

Trengove never has been quick, especially off the mark and this is severely hampering his ability to have any kind of impact at AFL level.

[Akum 2,660]

It's interesting how often it happens that different posters at training have such different impressions of Watts.

[rpfc 28,961]

Salem. Neat kick in sloppy conditions but he is smaller in person than I thought. He needs to develop his body. Really quickly. Took a nice mark right in front of me which surprised and and then sliced a kick to a leading forward. Did it all very easily. Tools all seem to be there.

No he doesn't.

We need to develop his game and his body properly and if that involves him not playing until he is 20 then that is what good teams clubs do.