Robbo (HUN) tees off

[Dr. Gonzo 23,904]

Every time I read Robbo, I keep wondering if he is dyslexic! How the hell is he a print journo?

He's hired by the same mob who keep Andrew Bolt employed...

[pitmaster 3,474]

Agree. Don't know who this Mark Davis

It's Mick Davis.

He is an ex-Sun football writer of long experience. I reckon he goes back to the early 80s at least, but probably the 70s. He was there when Peter Simunovic (anyone remember him?) was chief football writer and Lou Richards' tips were regarded as the Kiss of Death. Davis goes back so far Simunovic was followed by Mike Sheahan as football chief.

He was at The Australian for a few years and his column in The Age is his first dip into sports writing for a while, but I recognised his pic from his old days at The Sun.

Given Boofhead has had a crack at him I'd say there's some ill-feeling from Davis' days with the Murdoch press.

As for his article, it's just a light hearted column. I reckon Robbo's being thin skinned, but he is a self important prat after all and what else would you expect?

Oh and I agree with his comments re Whateley. Sounds like a chain saw against a barbed wire fence.

[pitmaster 3,474]

I'm not sure but there is a possibility of a breach of the Telecommunications Act. However, if that was the case then Demetriou would be going elsewhere than to Robinson's employers.

The complaint is possibly more likely to be about an alleged breach of journalistic ethics or protocols in place between the AFL and the media.

You're allowed to record your own conversations, Jack.

The legal point would turn on whether you are allowed to broadcast them to third parties...if that is what replaying them to your mates amounts to,

[P-man 13,366]

haha...pretty obvious that Robbo took offense to what Davis said about him and dressed it up as standing up for Gerard.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

You're allowed to record your own conversations, Jack.

R

The legal point would turn on whether you are allowed to broadcast them to third parties...if that is what replaying them to your mates amounts to,

Incorrect.

[pitmaster 3,474]

Incorrect.

www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/legalinformation/livinginthecommunity/Yourrights/Pages/Privacy.aspx

"It is not illegal to simply record a telephone conversation if you are a party to the conversation as long as you do not attach anything to or in the phone or its connections."

[Sir Why You Little 36,748]

www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/legalinformation/livinginthecommunity/Yourrights/Pages/Privacy.aspx

"It is not illegal to simply record a telephone conversation if you are a party to the conversation as long as you do not attach anything to or in the phone or its connections."

So to record a conversation on a speaker phone using an external recording device is legal?

[jabberwocky 2,301]

That is technically correct.

There would be a good chance that robbos office phone would be equipped with a facility to record.

If that were the case it could be an offence to record a conversation without consent of the other party/parties.

[Redleg 40,415]

Are there rules about recording or monitoring my telephone conversations?

Yes. Monitoring (listening in to), or recording of telephone conversations, is a matter tightly controlled by law. The federal Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 and State and Territory listening devices laws may both apply to this activity. The general rule is that the call may not be recorded. There are exceptions to these rules in very limited circumstances including where a warrant applies.

If a call is to be recorded or monitored, an organisation must tell you at the beginning of the conversation so that you have the chance either to end the call, or to ask to be transferred to another line where monitoring or recording does not take place (if this is available).

Reasons organisations may monitor or record conversations could include:

• to protect you in your dealings with the organisation
• to provide a record in the event of a dispute about the transaction
• to improve customer service.

Telephone companies may also need to monitor the quality of transmission on the telecommunications network for maintenance purposes. The Communications Alliance Ltd (formerly ACIF) have developed strict guidelines around this form of monitoring to protect customer privacy. If you would like more information about this monitoring, contact your telephone company providing your service.

PS. The above are not my words, but a copy of a summary on the subject.

[Sir Why You Little 36,748]

That is technically correct.

There would be a good chance that robbos office phone would be equipped with a facility to record.

If that were the case it could be an offence to record a conversation without consent of the other party/parties.

but technically in a court of law if the recording device was external to the phone would it be acceptable?

Makes a huge difference if it is.

[Arrow 1,257]

haha...pretty obvious that Robbo took offense to what Davis said about him and dressed it up as standing up for Gerard.

I disagree completely, and whether he did feel frustrated his point is valid, because if you read his second tweet it wasn't the article he was necessarily angry because said journalist often walks down the hall stops Gerard and Robbo and says 'mate, hope you're well loving the show!'

There is nothing worse in this world than a two faced coward, if you like Robbo or not, Davis has taken a horrific low blow at two big dogs to make a story. If you think Robinson's journalism is poor, it's a **** load better than that approach.

[P-man 13,366]

I disagree completely, and whether he did feel frustrated his point is valid, because if you read his second tweet it wasn't the article he was necessarily angry because said journalist often walks down the hall stops Gerard and Robbo and says 'mate, hope you're well loving the show!'

There is nothing worse in this world than a two faced coward, if you like Robbo or not, Davis has taken a horrific low blow at two big dogs to make a story. If you think Robinson's journalism is poor, it's a **** load better than that approach.

I like Robbo actually, despite his shortcomings as a writer, but c'mon. What has he painted it up as? "Taking shots at younger journos", the "younger journo" in this instance being Whateley. Davis hasn't criticised Whateley as a journalist, quite the opposite. He's had a crack at him as a race caller. So what? I'm sure Gerard couldn't give two hoots. He does it for the love of it, not the plaudits.

Robbo didn't like the jibe about his intellect, but he would appear precious if he just responded to that, so he's responded under the pretence that the criticism of Gerard is his main concern.

Whilst I'm sure him sticking up for his mate is genuine, if there had been no attack on himself in Davis' column, there'd have been no response.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Are there rules about recording or monitoring my telephone conversations?

Yes. Monitoring (listening in to), or recording of telephone conversations, is a matter tightly controlled by law. The federal Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 and State and Territory listening devices laws may both apply to this activity. The general rule is that the call may not be recorded. There are exceptions to these rules in very limited circumstances including where a warrant applies.

If a call is to be recorded or monitored, an organisation must tell you at the beginning of the conversation so that you have the chance either to end the call, or to ask to be transferred to another line where monitoring or recording does not take place (if this is available).

Reasons organisations may monitor or record conversations could include:

• to protect you in your dealings with the organisation
• to provide a record in the event of a dispute about the transaction
• to improve customer service.

Telephone companies may also need to monitor the quality of transmission on the telecommunications network for maintenance purposes. The Communications Alliance Ltd (formerly ACIF) have developed strict guidelines around this form of monitoring to protect customer privacy. If you would like more information about this monitoring, contact your telephone company providing your service.

PS. The above are not my words, but a copy of a summary on the subject.

Check Survellance Devices Act as well Redleg.

[Biffen 12,937]

Whateley is a dilettante .

Robbo is a boorish [censored]

Davis is on the money.

[dee-eee 231]

Whately should be smart enough to realise that good racecallers have a measured , conversational style... think Bill Collins, Ian Craig etc . His flat-out "auctioneer" style with his usual slightly whiney timbre is frankly irritating .

[Machsy 2,858]

Whateley is a dilettante .

Robbo is a boorish [censored]

Davis is on the money.

Is there something wrong with being a dilettante..?

Davis is having a fairly baseless whinge, but that's his prerogative in such a piece.

Robbo is just embarrassing himself after a few too many.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Machsy

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

Are there rules about recording or monitoring my telephone conversations?

Yes. Monitoring (listening in to), or recording of telephone conversations, is a matter tightly controlled by law. The federal Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 and State and Territory listening devices laws may both apply to this activity. The general rule is that the call may not be recorded. There are exceptions to these rules in very limited circumstances including where a warrant applies.

If a call is to be recorded or monitored, an organisation must tell you at the beginning of the conversation so that you have the chance either to end the call, or to ask to be transferred to another line where monitoring or recording does not take place (if this is available).

Reasons organisations may monitor or record conversations could include:

• to protect you in your dealings with the organisation
• to provide a record in the event of a dispute about the transaction
• to improve customer service.

Telephone companies may also need to monitor the quality of transmission on the telecommunications network for maintenance purposes. The Communications Alliance Ltd (formerly ACIF) have developed strict guidelines around this form of monitoring to protect customer privacy. If you would like more information about this monitoring, contact your telephone company providing your service.

PS. The above are not my words, but a copy of a summary on the subject.

Thanks Redleg. This post is far more interesting than anything else posted on this thread.

But perhaps I'm biased as I have a natural aversion to anything that tries to link the word "journalism" to the Herald Sun.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,136]

Is there something wrong with being a dilettante..?

Davis is having a fairly baseless whinge, but that's his prerogative in such a piece.

Robbo is just embarrassing himself after a few too many.

It depends what field one chooses to dilettante in.

[binman 42,162]

Whately should be smart enough to realise that good racecallers have a measured , conversational style... think Bill Collins, Ian Craig etc . His flat-out "auctioneer" style with his usual slightly whiney timbre is frankly irritating .

Could not agree more. I hate his race calls, can't stand the way he yells. Race calling is not for amateurs and as a punter there is nothing more frustrating than a poor caller. I don't understand why the ABC just don't take the Greg Miles feed.

Perhaps he should call the GF sprint and leave it at that.

[Little Goffy 14,157]

Is it seriously the 'Pssst' article that people are wailing about? The one linked to earlier in the discussion?

Pretty light jab, I'm stunned that anyone feels it warrants a big reaction. Robbo going off like that is just, well, pathetic.

Standard to the thin-skinned boofhead type, I guess.

[daisycutter 29,443]

who's robbo?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,136]

who's robbo?

Played a few games for Melbourne. Low profile type of guy. Did the one percenters and team stuff.

[DemonFrog 1,347]

Played a few games for Melbourne. Low profile type of guy. Did the one percenters and team stuff.

Sorry BBO its been so long since I actually seen anybody play AFL standard football for the MFC I have no idea who you are talking about.

[Moonshadow 17,579]

Every time I read Robbo, I keep wondering if he is dyslexic! How the hell is he a print journo?

And how is 'demonstrative' spelt again?

[daisycutter 29,443]

And how is 'demonstrative' spelt again?

maybe he is punning on "De Monster"?