Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[ManDee 7,222]

I heard (I don't believe it) that Essendon will be banned from the AFL competition for 1 year. It was speculated that a composite team from Tasmania would take their place. I think this fanciful but he did have a compelling argument and some WADA knowledge. WOW!

[dee-luded 2,959]

I heard (I don't believe it) that Essendon will be banned from the AFL competition for 1 year. It was speculated that a composite team from Tasmania would take their place. I think this fanciful but he did have a compelling argument and some WADA knowledge. WOW!

How will tassie go in the draft ?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I heard (I don't believe it) that Essendon will be banned from the AFL competition for 1 year. It was speculated that a composite team from Tasmania would take their place. I think this fanciful but he did have a compelling argument and some WADA knowledge. WOW!

Yes the AFL will gladly jeopardise its TV rights and other key supplier and stakeholder relationships by banning a whole club. Where do people dream up such fluff?? Hardly compelling and the WADA knowledge does not help here.

[ManDee 7,222]

How will tassie go in the draft ?

Remaining Essendon players plus 1 50 + game player from each of the other clubs. Remember Ted Fidge? I would offer Byrnes. NOTE:-This is pure speculation.

[jackaub 1,402]

What has been lost in all of this is the appalling abuse of process by the Minister and Government in announcing the "darkest day " without having done the investigation or their legislative homework.

I believe they should have not made the announcement until they were sure of the details and trail of evidence-

Smacks of political opportunism as usual. What can you expect of modern political life?

Everybody wants to be seeming to do something but not doing anything. It is just appalling. I feel sorry for the reputations that have been damaged and I am sure that this will go nowhere, just die slowly when something more "Interesting and stimulating" comes along to be played with like a Sherrin. This interference and game playing has destroyed the process and ensured that no one will be charged nor any sanctions imposed except for the sanctions like what you get for tanking when the AFL denied any tanking The whole thing is just a joke

Edited March 4, 2014 by jackaub

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I'm not entirely doubting what you say may be true, but in what capacity would you be getting information from "legal sources and federal bureaucracy"?

You should be doubting. Caveat emptor on that posters rants wnd sources. A mixture of the no kidding bleedin obvious and stuff that lacks validity.

[ManDee 7,222]

Yes the AFL will gladly jeopardise its TV rights and other key supplier and stakeholder relationships by banning a whole club. Where do people dream up such fluff?? Hardly compelling and the WADA knowledge does not help here.

I prefaced the fluff with (I don't believe it) The penalty on the club was a WADA penalty as it was suggested to me. The AFL would have to comply. Hence the Tassie beat up story to fill the Essendon gap.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I prefaced the fluff with (I don't believe it) The penalty on the club was a WADA penalty as it was suggested to me. The AFL would have to comply. Hence the Tassie beat up story to fill the Essendon gap.

As likely as the sighting of the unicorn. Its incredible what people dont apparently but are happy to spruik such rubbish in forums

[ManDee 7,222]

As likely as the sighting of the unicorn. Its incredible what people dont apparently but are happy to spruik such rubbish in forums

I agree?? I think.

Is this a forum?

What do we do on forums?

Did I suggest that I agreed with the views?

It was light hearted gossip, who would think that you might find that on a fan forum?

Edited March 4, 2014 by ManDee

[PaulRB 6,411]

Maybe the Don's penalty should be to play 8 games in Tassie for ten years, and a name change to the "Tassie Bombers" with a logo of a bomber dropping it's load on the map of tasmania!

[Striker475 696]

I prefaced the fluff with (I don't believe it) The penalty on the club was a WADA penalty as it was suggested to me. The AFL would have to comply. Hence the Tassie beat up story to fill the Essendon gap.

This is entirely possible. Same rules that have lead cycling teams to be thrown off the world tour.

[beelzebub 23,383]

11.2 Consequences for Team Sports

If more than two members of a team in a Team Sport

are found to have committed an anti-doping rule

violation during an Event Period, the ruling body of the

Event shall impose an appropriate sanction on the

team (e.g., loss of points, Disqualification from a

Competition or Event, or other sanction) in addition to

any Consequences imposed upon the individual

Athletes committing the anti-doping rule violation

all over red rover......woof !!

[Sir Why You Little 37,125]

^^ASADA 11.2 BB??

[beelzebub 23,383]

^^ASADA 11.2 BB??

yep

actually WADA !!

Edited March 4, 2014 by beelzebub

[beelzebub 23,383]

Now I await the someone who will counter with...ahh but....the AFL already stripped them of points for 2013.

my counter-counter is that that was NOT for any antipdoping offence per se. Once WADA/SADA start pinging players then theres a NEW felony to punish.

[Dees2014 2,377]

I'm not entirely doubting what you say may be true, but in what capacity would you be getting information from "legal sources and federal bureaucracy"?

My professional network, dating back to university, and the network i have built up in the business world where i have had extensive interaction with federal and state governments, strangely enough many seem to be interested in AFL.

[ManDee 7,222]

yep

actually WADA !!

As I said earlier, WADA knowledge. 1 year ban. A fill in team for 1 year. It is possible. The AFL would have no say in penalty.

Woof is right.

Does that mean that Richmond can finish 8th again?

This is rumour not fact 360 Robbo.

[daisycutter 29,737]

As I said earlier, WADA knowledge. 1 year ban. A fill in team for 1 year. It is possible. The AFL would have no say in penalty.

Woof is right.

Does that mean that Richmond can finish 8th again?

This is rumour not fact 360 Robbo.

that is not quite true technically

asada don't actually give the penalties, they leave it up to the sports body in question

in practice though the sports body generally adopt the standard wada/asada penalties

[Dees2014 2,377]

this I wonder, if its a lot to do with Demitriou's retirement, & if he'll do the dirty work on all the scum, on his way out the door. then fight from a distance against any retaliation from the have you heard backers.

Oh i heard all this stuff before Ad';s retirement announcement. I think the Essendon situation has hastened his exit but that is all. AD in my view still is trying to sort through all this in the best interests of the Game. It is Hird (egged-on by his lawyer wife) who has made this outcome so much worse than it need be, not least for Hird himself. She may be a good lawyer, but she has no idea of how to play the political game, and no idea about how to get the best outcome for her husband. By her actions, she has condemned him to obscurity. He will never work again in the AFL industry. Edited March 4, 2014 by Dees2014

[ManDee 7,222]

that is not quite true technically

asada don't actually give the penalties, they leave it up to the sports body in question

in practice though the sports body generally adopt the standard wada/asada penalties

Thanks for the clarification, has any sporting body not adopted the penalties? Then what?

[daisycutter 29,737]

Thanks for the clarification, has any sporting body not adopted the penalties? Then what?

not sure but i seem to remember so.....and then wada come into it with a big stick

[ManDee 7,222]

not sure but i seem to remember so.....and then wada come into it with a big stick

That is my understanding too. So effectively they are WADA penalties not the AFL's but the AFL carries them out or else. Sorry I took the short cut with "The AFL would have no say in penalty". Perhaps I should have said " the AFL would have little say in the penalties"

[beelzebub 23,383]

WADA/ASADA are the judiciary

the AFL , the executioner

[old dee 23,871]

WADA/ASADA are the judiciary

the AFL , the executioner

Still no charges bb.

Suggest you don't get too excited just yet.

[jazza 1,323]

watched 360 monday night[yes i know]

i could be wrong,buuuuuut i detected the dons are copping it before the end of april.

i dont know how to "link".if you listen to vlads comments and read between some of those lines.

hope some of you can listen to this and tell me im wrong,but i definitley thought he said gone by the end of april.