Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[whatwhat say what 22,948]

Paul Little is worth $880m. Any costs incurred here by the bombers are small fry - and I'm sure the club are cognisant of the fact that afl will inevitably bail them out if needs be. Gotta have an 18 team competition, after all, and as disgusting as their behaviour has been the last several years they remain a powerhouse club, only behind the Pies in Melbourne.

They're going to end up fine the bastards.

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

Can't for the life of me imagine on what grounds they would appeal.

1. The vibe

2. Mabo

3. The fairy at the bottom of the garden.

[deanox 9,989]

Can anyone advise what is the likely occurrence if they do appeal?

Will show cause notices be suspended again, or could the court allow the processes to occur parallel?

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

If they appeal, how long before that is heard and determined?

Not long. Two or three months perhaps.

[sue 9,145]

They have no hope. They've gone kamikaze.

They could have a plan to hobble through the next few years. First drag this out as long as they can so older players would retire anyway (hence my question earlier). Also they could plan to trade out young blokes whom other clubs will take knowing they may miss some months . They could trade these guys for some 'clean skins' to fill the holes over the next couple of years, swap some draft picks for more and even keep some younger ones on ice while they serve their bans or trade them next year. The AFL will help. They may not be a powerhouse for several years, but I'm sure the AFL would prefer that to them fielding a VFL side. Whether that makes any sense or not would depend on a detailed analysis of their list so I could be talking through my hat.

Of course there is also the possibility of a coup if they try to follow such a long-term course.

[SaberFang 7,151]

I don't think they can appeal without new evidence? There's certain laws that prevent it, for the exact sort like Essendon who waste the court's resources by endlessly appealing.

But clearly their plan is just to string this along with injunctions, appeals, and throwing up lawsuits that they know they won't win, but prevent ASADA from issuing SCN. Wouldn't be surprised if they just launch an appeal with the intent of delaying ASADA until after the verdict of the appeal. Wankers.

[Cards13 9,117]

According to Robbo, via a text message he received on air this morning Essendon are going to appeal the decision. Not official but from reliable sources, probably Hird's team.

Love burning money this crew, not sure it would go down to well with the players if they did appeal.

Good to see Slobbo checking his facts before reporting a story as well.

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

John Fahey thinks Essendon player bans should be longer than the NRL bans.

Former WADA boss John Fahey believes Essendon players may serve longer bans

[SaberFang 7,151]

ASADA should take any offers off the table first thing Monday morning, show them they mean business.

[daisycutter 29,743]

1. The vibe

2. Mabo

3. The fairy at the bottom of the garden.

it's the constitution

[Cards13 9,117]

When is the AFL going to issue an infraction notice to Dank and ban him for life?

[Redleg 41,467]

I don't think they can appeal without new evidence? There's certain laws that prevent it, for the exact sort like Essendon who waste the court's resources by endlessly appealing.

Incorrect. Usual appeals are based on the decision being wrong in law and against the weight of the evidence.

Not sure that is present here.

I think the Bombers board is now split and needs to find an end to this and maybe their Board positions, not forgetting terminating the Coach's contract.

[Redleg 41,467]

When is the AFL going to issue an infraction notice to Dank and ban him for life?

He may have already been banned from AFL for life. Certainly from NRL.

[sue 9,145]

John Fahey thinks Essendon player bans should be longer than the NRL bans.Former WADA boss John Fahey believes Essendon players may serve longer bans

Will the Essendon faithful listen?

Former World Anti-Doping Agency boss John Fahey believes the likelihood of Essendon footballers serving longer suspensions for banned drug use has increased due to "certain people with big egos and fat wallets".

...

"It is time certain people with big egos and fat wallets threw them both in the drawer and started focusing on 34 young men and their future in sport.

[daisycutter 29,743]

Incorrect. Usual appeals are based on the decision being wrong in law and against the weight of the evidence.

Not sure that is present here.

I think the Bombers board is now split and needs to find an end to this and maybe their Board positions, not forgetting terminating the Coach's contract.

the board might struggle sacking little if his tenure is based on him financing things out of his (deep) pockets unless they can find another well heeled benefactor prepared to cough up

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Will the Essendon faithful listen?

Whack! Lol let the mass exodus begin.

Essendon are finished, and yeah it feels as good as I thought it would!

[Cards13 9,117]

He may have already been banned from AFL for life. Certainly from NRL.

Most recent note on that I can see is the AFL is/was waiting for the Fed Court outcome.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-to-wait-until-federal-court-case-is-over-to-hit-stephen-dank-with-any-antidoping-charges/story-fni5f22o-1227053025508

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

Will the Essendon faithful listen?

I believe this will be a primary concern for the players. There may be the possibility that they will have to serve full 2 year suspensions if this fuss is drawn out. Many may be retired from AFL then but it will be difficult for them to remain in the game in other capacities such as playing in minor competitions or coaching careers.

Edited September 20, 2014 by america de cali

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

They could have a plan to hobble through the next few years. First drag this out as long as they can so older players would retire anyway (hence my question earlier). Also they could plan to trade out young blokes whom other clubs will take knowing they may miss some months . They could trade these guys for some 'clean skins' to fill the holes over the next couple of years, swap some draft picks for more and even keep some younger ones on ice while they serve their bans or trade them next year. The AFL will help. They may not be a powerhouse for several years, but I'm sure the AFL would prefer that to them fielding a VFL side. Whether that makes any sense or not would depend on a detailed analysis of their list so I could be talking through my hat.

Of course there is also the possibility of a coup if they try to follow such a long-term course.

That would require a level of realistic tactical thinking not so far displayed.

[Pink Freud 370]

Paul Little is worth $880m. Any costs incurred here by the bombers are small fry - and I'm sure the club are cognisant of the fact that afl will inevitably bail them out if needs be. Gotta have an 18 team competition, after all, and as disgusting as their behaviour has been the last several years they remain a powerhouse club, only behind the Pies in Melbourne.

They're going to end up fine the bastards.

Correction:

After this case, Paul Little is worth $875m.

[Cards13 9,117]

Correction:

After this case, Paul Little is worth $875m.

Prior to adding ASADA costs to the kitty.

[daisycutter 29,743]

Prior to adding ASADA costs to the kitty.

and weapon payout plus legals

[daisycutter 29,743]

and paying out jaques (again)

then the players can sue

[chook fowler 19,551]

Correction:

After this case, Paul Little is worth $875m.

Poor boy.

[Cards13 9,117]

and weapon payout plus legals

When will they settle that one?