Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Self righteous prat.

Personal insults are such a cop out.

[DemonFrog 1,354]

Possible new Director of High Performance for MessyDrugs

[jnrmac 20,104]

Unless you are a medical professional that knows Bomber personally, it is your post that is bizarre.

Why? His odd behaviour over a long period 'raises the possibility' - nothing more than that.

[Whispering_Jack 30,239]

Some possible spanners for him maybe

Dank was given a SCN in March 2014 ASADA summons Stephen Dank as Hird talk in this his lawyer indicates he will most likely ignore it. Due to them having no Jurisdiction over him. The NAD Scheme states ASADA can release information NAD 4.22 if (a) ASADA: (i) considers the publication to be in the public interest; or (b) any of the following apply: (iv) no sporting tribunal has jurisdiction to conduct a hearing process in relation to the finding concerning the information; and © (iii) the athlete or support person has not applied to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal for a review of the decision within the applicable time frame.

IMO If Dank ignored the SCN and he was put on the RoF. Then if he did not appeal ASADA may be able to disclose the information.

Makes Hardie look even more foolish, doesn't it?

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Any evaluation of BOMBA'S mental state and his grasp on reality should take the following into account . . .

Heraldsun Updated 4 Jul 2014, 4:25pmFri 4 Jul 2014, 4:25pm

Essendon coach Mark Thompson insists his players are not facing health risks over the club's 2012 supplements program, despite revelations the AFL was monitoring them over fears of cancer and hormonal problems.

Thompson said on Friday the Essendon players had been extensively briefed by club officials regarding the supplements given to them.

"I think it's okay. The players have been communicated to by specialists and the drugs, the supplements that we have given the players, they know that they're not harmful," Thompson said.

"There's no risk. One actually helps in part of the treatment for cancer.

"So we haven't got a problem there at all as far as our communication and our players' awareness of what's healthy and what's not."

The league had arranged for special testing of samples from Essendon players during 2012, months before the club's supplements scandal broke.

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Any evaluation of BOMBA'S mental state and his grasp on reality should take the following into account . . .

Heraldsun Updated 4 Jul 2014, 4:25pmFri 4 Jul 2014, 4:25pm

Essendon coach Mark Thompson insists his players are not facing health risks over the club's 2012 supplements program, despite revelations the AFL was monitoring them over fears of cancer and hormonal problems.

Thompson said on Friday the Essendon players had been extensively briefed by club officials regarding the supplements given to them.

"I think it's okay. The players have been communicated to by specialists and the drugs, the supplements that we have given the players, they know that they're not harmful," Thompson said.

"There's no risk. One actually helps in part of the treatment for cancer.

"So we haven't got a problem there at all as far as our communication and our players' awareness of what's healthy and what's not."

The league had arranged for special testing of samples from Essendon players during 2012, months before the club's supplements scandal broke.

oops, I left out the best bit!

Is Bomba in denial?

At the center of all psychological denial is a hidden agenda. That agenda is usually not completely conscious--meaning that the denier has not thought through the issues surrounding his denial; and may not even be aware of what his motivation is in asserting something is true when it isn't; or false when it isn't.

The hidden agenda or underlying motivation behind the denial is very frequently related to the potential adverse consequences that could ensue if the denial were eliminated and reality acknowledged. That is where the unnacceptable feelings, needs, and thoughts come in. The denier (or part of him) has made an unconscious decision that awareness of certain feelings, needs, or thoughts is more threatening to his sense of self than the act of denial.

[Dees2014 2,377]

I suspect once Bomber Thompson put his name out-there for the Don's Job at their B&F night, and then the club subsequently reneged on firing Hird, that Thompson has now thrown his hands put in the air and said "I give up, I am out of here" and therefore sees no reason why he should pay the fine if he no longer has any AFL ambitions.

The question I ask though is what does Tania and James Hird have on Little and the current EFC board. My lawyer friends tell me this is a pretty straight forward case: Hird has been negligent and there is a very clear case for him to be dismissed for gross incompetence without compensation. Instead he was signed on for an additional two years for just about the top salary for a coach in the AFL, he was then rubbed out for 12 months for failing to implement adequate governance, but was not only paid his full salary but he and his family was sent off to France on a prestigious short form MBA at one of the top universities in the world accompanied by his wife and kids. Conservatively would have cost Essendon all up between $1.5 and $2m. Now, when 34 of the players who played under him received infraction notices, he still is able to hang onto his job in spite of the fact that he is pursuing legal action directly against the wishes of Little and the EFC board supposedly for legal technicalities. I say again my legal mates think this is very straight forward case of incompetence.

He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.

There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Dees2014

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

2014, you have my attention. Do go on.

[Sir Why You Little 37,052]

I suspect once Bomber Thompson put his name out-there for the Don's Job at their B&F night, and then the club subsequently reneged on firing Hird, that Thompson has now thrown his hands put in the air and said "I give up, I am out of here" and therefore sees no reason why he should pay the fine if he no longer has any AFL ambitions.

The question I ask though is what does Tania and James Hird have on Little and the current EFC board. My lawyer friends tell me this is a pretty straight forward case: Hird has been negligent and there is a very clear case for him to be dismissed for gross incompetence without compensation. Instead he was signed on for an additional two years for just about the top salary for a coach in the AFL, he was then rubbed out for 12 months for failing to implement adequate governance, but was not only paid his full salary but he and his family was sent off to France on a prestigious short form MBA at one of the top universities in the world accompanied by his wife and kids. Conservatively would have cost Essendon all up between $1.5 and $2m. Now, when 34 of the players who played under him received infraction notices, he still is able to hang onto his job in spite of the fact that he is pursuing legal action directly against the wishes of Little and the EFC board supposedly for legal technicalities. I say again my legal mates think this is very straight forward case of incompetence.

He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.

There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.

I agree 14. When has a senior coach ever been paid out to go overseas and then get his job back??

I don't have a clue what it is but Hird definately holds cards we are yet to see otherwise he would have disappeared at least 2 years ago.

[What 18,810]

He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.

There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.

This is delicious.

Feel free to send me a PM with what you've heard

[monoccular 17,432]

I agree 14. When has a senior coach ever been paid out to go overseas and then get his job back??

I don't have a clue what it is but Hird definately holds cards we are yet to see otherwise he would have disappeared at least 2 years ago.

Not the old goat photos, oft referred to in the ND days ?? :-))

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.

There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.

You could give us a hypothetical scenario like say the goings on of a South American soccer club. No scandal is too outrageous for some of them. Edited November 2, 2014 by america de cali

[Sir Why You Little 37,052]

Not the old goat photos, oft referred to in the ND days ?? :-))

Missed that one Mono...Feel free to elaborate if possible

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He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.

There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.

Edited by Dees2014, Today, 03:54 PM.

Agree, this is the second great "WTF"! The first is "the saga" itself, the second and a close second at that is how can the senior coach (even on the strength of the "Ziggy" report) still be employed let alone rewarded for his part in this absolute catastrophe for the club and the AFL.

I have always assumed that Hird was the prime mover in this affair but perhaps there were "loops within loops" at the EFC and Hirdy may have been left out of some of the nastier goings on!. . Who paid Dank? What did they pay for exactly? Were there other quasi business relationships between the upper echelon and Dank?

There absolutely must be more to this story .. Dees2014 you must come through with the 'goods' otherwise how in hell are we going to get too sleep!

[Dees2014 2,377]

He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.Edited by Dees2014, Today, 03:54 PM.Agree, this is the second great "WTF"! The first is "the saga" itself, the second and a close second at that is how can the senior coach (even on the strength of the "Ziggy" report) still be employed let alone rewarded for his part in this absolute catastrophe for the club and the AFL.I have always assumed that Hird was the prime mover in this affair but perhaps there were "loops within loops" at the EFC and Hirdy may have been left out of some of the nastier goings on!. . Who paid Dank? What did they pay for exactly? Were there other quasi business relationships between the upper echelon and Dank?There absolutely must be more to this story .. Dees2014 you must come through with the 'goods' otherwise how in hell are we going to get too sleep!

Unfortunately, I can't reveal what I know for obvious reasons, but if you look at the nature of this scandal, the people involved, it is not difficult to draw certain conclusions. I'm sure it will come out in the end, but beyond that I don't think I should comment further.

[Willmoy1947 4,099]

As I posted accidentally on the wrong thread.

Could Evans have left too early for some people? and

Sheedy was pretty adamant with his refusal to participate at all?

[beelzebub 23,380]

You just get the feeling that one day, in the not too distant future,there will be a bang just north of the city as the Hangar goes off in a puff of smoke !!

Just so much not right about the club.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Loving it Dees2014! Keep it up!

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

Unfortunately, I can't reveal what I know for obvious reasons, but if you look at the nature of this scandal, the people involved, it is not difficult to draw certain conclusions. I'm sure it will come out in the end, but beyond that I don't think I should comment further.

Sounds like you are hinting it could be related to some sinister international drug dealing and smuggling racket. Just my guess.

Edited November 2, 2014 by america de cali

[hoopla 418]

He must have something else on them, possibly unrelated to the drugs saga. That seems the only explanation. If I am right then it will come out, and it will become an even bigger scandal than it is now. My contacts in the legal profession have a very good idea of what it is, and if they are right, it will make the other sporting/social scandal in the last three years look tame by comparison, and will create international headlines even if there is no awareness of AFL as such in the international news outlets.

There is much more behind this than meets the eye and it is eye-bogglingly scandalous! Hird is a creep.

All this makes sense - the final sentence is obvious

2014, you have my attention. Do go on.

Likewise 2014- continue please ..............

There absolutely must be more to this story .. Dees2014 you must come through with the 'goods' otherwise how in hell are we going to get too sleep!

Fair's fair 2014.

You owe us more information.................

Unfortunately, I can't reveal what I know for obvious reasons, but if you look at the nature of this scandal, the people involved, it is not difficult to draw certain conclusions. I'm sure it will come out in the end, but beyond that I don't think I should comment further.

If you wont tell us what it is - then at least tell how and why it will come out when it hasn't come out already !!

And what effect will it have on the AFL when it does ?

If it is not difficult to draw certain conclusions, then surely you give can us a helpful hint! !!

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You just get the feeling that one day, in the not too distant future,there will be a bang just north of the city as the Hangar goes off in a puff of smoke !!

Just so much not right about the club.

So many possibilities! How many sleepless nites till I get some answers? I need a Mogadon the size of a hockey puck!!

[biggestred 5,108]

interest massively peaked Dees2014

Would looove a PM about the possible rumour!!

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Typo on that last word deefrag

[What 18,810]

Ill bet dees2014's mail centres around this

TEXT MESSAGE FROM STEPHEN DANK TO JAMES HIRD: We've financials ready for you and David for AOD project. These financials cover all possible revenue streams where the project applies.

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Typo on that last word deefrag

I'm lookin at hogans post (above) and im thinkin if that's true . ."Holy typo"!!