Move Sylvia on while he has currency

[Red N Blue Society 165]

I like Sylvia at MFC but I dont love him..I would trade him yes.

We need a Ball magnet. And Chunk cant do it all by himself. At the moment he has a sidekick in Terlich as an apprentice and even Terlich is going better than Sylvia I would have to say.

Trenners also is not cutting it for me atm either IMO, but his pre season stuffed him. So he has an excuse.

Does Sylvia have an excuse for not dominating games? He should be. And he isnt.

Terlich is an absolute Gem and I think will be a smoky for B&F!!

[JT9 104]

Forgive me if im wrong but last year teams traded FA's to avoid coping any compensation penalties (Like Port with Monfries. they lost 2 players to FA and didnt want less compensation by picking up Monfries so they traded for him)

As for Sylvia, how people want him to leave is beyond me. Hes been putting up good numbers in one of the worst sides in AFL history, our history of getting rid of senior players is already disgraceful, we have a shocking midfield, and we want to get rid of one of our only few mature age players?

Id like to keep him, and we really need to. There is no benefit to letting him go

[Redleg 38,641]

Forgive me if im wrong but last year teams traded FA's to avoid coping any compensation penalties (Like Port with Monfries. they lost 2 players to FA and didnt want less compensation by picking up Monfries so they traded for him)

As for Sylvia, how people want him to leave is beyond me. Hes been putting up good numbers in one of the worst sides in AFL history, our history of getting rid of senior players is already disgraceful, we have a shocking midfield, and we want to get rid of one of our only few mature age players?

Id like to keep him, and we really need to. There is no benefit to letting him go

Agree.

[Clark_Kent 315]

It's also worth noting that there's a lot of older players i.e O'keefe at 32 in career best form. Now I'm not saying he will ever perform the same as O'keefe, but he could still potentially have 5 years left in him. Do we just want to get rid of all players once they hit 27 and above?? We NEED to keep Sylvia.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Whilst Sylvia may never achieve greatness, he is still one of our better players so we should try to hold him, he can still be very damaging and if we don't expect him to be AFL top ten every year we won't be disappointed.

I see him competing for a position with Tapscott as a forward at the moment and he is quite a way in front there; I would maybe play him on a wing but not in the middle he was embarrassed a couple of times by the Swans midfielders and he just isn't a clearance player. Last week he went tearing through the midfield with the ball and tried to break away with strength but there were just too many opponents for him to get through and he was caught with the ball. That is the sort of thing he can do if he is faced with one or maybe two but in the middle they jump on you in numbers.

He's a keeper and will fulfil a role as long as we know he has limitations and isn't our version of Riscutto (SP?)

[old dee 23,256]

Whilst Sylvia may never achieve greatness, he is still one of our better players so we should try to hold him, he can still be very damaging and if we don't expect him to be AFL top ten every year we won't be disappointed.

I see him competing for a position with Tapscott as a forward at the moment and he is quite a way in front there; I would maybe play him on a wing but not in the middle he was embarrassed a couple of times by the Swans midfielders and he just isn't a clearance player. Last week he went tearing through the midfield with the ball and tried to break away with strength but there were just too many opponents for him to get through and he was caught with the ball. That is the sort of thing he can do if he is faced with one or maybe two but in the middle they jump on you in numbers.

He's a keeper and will fulfil a role as long as we know he has limitations and isn't our version of Riscutto (SP?)

I think you have Nailed it above.

Probably not worth a lot robbie but you have my vote

[Allen Jakovich 516]

Has had a very consistent year. Don't know where we'd be without him.

Perception is very different from reality when it comes to Col.

Sign him up.

[Demonsterative 2,384]

This year Sylvia's currency has gone from the Dong to the Ringgit. Better than the Chat other players are worth. He is a keeper due to a poor list

[[email protected] 101]

I like or optimism but I do not share it. 10 years not much return.

Absolute rubbish... He had a lot of mates over that time.. He can go where he likes .. We cannot trade him.. !!

[[email protected] 101]

Sylvia will help us win the premiership.

He is a gun.

He will be far too old by then, wouldn't he ?? Just "ARKSKING"

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Has had a very consistent year. Don't know where we'd be without him.

Perception is very different from reality when it comes to Col.

Sign him up.

Uhh !! Last ?? or Still second last ??

[angrydee 842]

We still need big experienced bodies.

Will never be the player he could have been.

But, unfortunately, we still need him.

So it's a no brainer - we can afford him and we need him - we re-sign him, providing he wants to stay.

We also need him to want to stay as a statement of faith in the club.

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

I think it his 150th against the Cats. I would like Colin to be still in the red and blue playing consistent footy on his 200th

Go Col.

[beelzebub 22,762]

I guess the point we could make is that since we cannot trade him, we may as well sign him up.

We have money in the cap, and he isn't a total liability. Trust us to invest 10 years in his unfulfilled potential only to now lose him for nothing. Typical.

In summary, sign him up, but don't kill yourself trying to do it. More important contracts to nail first.

am so ambivalent about this guy.

Hes not top shelf ; he ought to be.

We need x players. Offer him reasonable conditions but not overboard .

Not that fussed

Edited July 8, 2013 by belzebub59

[rpfc 27,693]

I will just run through the options for those who are unsure of what will happen;

1. Sylvia re-signs with us.

2. Sylvia leaves for another team through free agency - we don't bring any FA in and receive a probable 2nd round pick (ND22).

3. Sylvia leaves and we pick up a comparable, or near comparable FA - we do't get any compensation for him leaving.

You can trade RFA but no-one has tried to trade an Unrestricted FA and I don't think the AFL will allow it - the former club has no hold over the player.

I hope he stays but it is up to him. I am not about to beg Colin to stick around, he should make the hard decision and finish his career with the MFC.

[Machsy 2,858]

I think it his 150th against the Cats. I would like Colin to be still in the red and blue playing consistent footy on his 200th

Go Col.

It is, as it is Nathan Jones' 150th and Jeremy Howe's 50th matches also.

[deanox 9,033]

Interesting that Jones and Sylvia will both play their 150th this week. As far as I know, Sylvia hasn't spent much time playing in the VFL based on form. And his debut was in 2004, two seasons before Jones in 2006. He has missed around 44 games of football through injury (or suspension I suppose!) that Jones hasn't. Adam Cooney has 194 games, even Farran Ray is nearly a season ahead of him with 168.

Funnily enough, apart from his first season where he only played 3 games, every year he has played more than 15 games.

In perspective of why he may want to leave, in 10 seasons, only twice has he played in more wins than losses.

[The Yarra 83]

The curious case of Colin Sylvia. I'll probably never give up hope of him being a serious player for the MFC.

I noticed something in his play against the Swans.

When the ball drops, a player changes direction or a stoppage is cleared - Col has the strength, running power & skills to do what's required of him in these situations but he's slow to react to a change in the play. One instance I saw Jack clear a stoppage by moving to a good spot to recieve an OKeefe handball. Col had the power to chase and lay a late tackle but wasn't able to stop Jack clearing the ball. If he had of reacted earlier to Jack's movement he wouldn't have been in a position to recieve.

Hope he re signs. Away from the club he seems settled. I just wanna see the best of this guy.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

He'd make a good sub.

[Generation dee 1,336]

Yeah let's trade him because he was a top 3 draft pick and he should be the best player in the league by now.

What a rot. This year he has played his most consistent, team based footy of his entire career. It's a shame he never got a hard taskmaster earlier in his career or he might have become a more complete player. That said, I'm extremely happy with how he is playing this year as opposed to every other year waiting for him to become chapman. Like other posters have pointed out, 4.5 tackles a game, he is she parsing and chasing. I think he would be right up there in our "pressure acts" list. Sure he isn't getting 35 touches and kicking 5 goals a game, but why does he need to? This club needs blokes working hard both ways, 18 on the ground giving 100% the whole time. We have the base set for a really good midfield and we need to focus on developing what we have. Instead of this club being seen as a retirement village or halfway home for players not quite up to it.

[mauriesy 6,928]

Trade him 'while he still has currency? What is this ... footy card swaps?

Trade for need, or swap strengths for weaknesses, or if the deal is too good to refuse, but I'd never trade just because someone has or lacks 'currency'.

Edited July 8, 2013 by maurie

[Chook 14,710]

Colin Sylvia has lots of currency. Melbourne has been giving him plenty of it for the last ten years.

[beelzebub 22,762]

Trade him 'while he still has currency? What is this ... footy card swaps?

Trade for need, or swap strengths for weaknesses, or if the deal is too good to refuse, but I'd never trade just because someone has or lacks 'currency'.

Do we get the gum ?

Pretty much the matter of things.. Sylvia is only worth what we get if in terms of exchange. Otherwise a keep... all in all hes not that important , just another brick in the wall, though a self running brick often and not always a wall player.

[Machsy 2,858]

The curious case of Colin Sylvia. I'll probably never give up hope of him being a serious player for the MFC.

I noticed something in his play against the Swans.

When the ball drops, a player changes direction or a stoppage is cleared - Col has the strength, running power & skills to do what's required of him in these situations but he's slow to react to a change in the play. One instance I saw Jack clear a stoppage by moving to a good spot to recieve an OKeefe handball. Col had the power to chase and lay a late tackle but wasn't able to stop Jack clearing the ball. If he had of reacted earlier to Jack's movement he wouldn't have been in a position to recieve.

Hope he re signs. Away from the club he seems settled. I just wanna see the best of this guy.

Never been accused of being a Rhodes scholar.

Like Moloney, unfortunately they're "just footballers", but I firmly believe to be one of the top line players requires a certain level of intelligence that hasn't been present in our more capable players in recent years.