The Trade/Draft Rumour Mill

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Roos made a play for Kennedy, but this has been rejected. Roos thought that Sydney may require more salary space combined with rumoured dissatisfaction of Kennedy made the offer worth a try. No one was surprised it was rejected, it was always a long shot. If you never ask, you never know.

dang

[dee-luded 2,958]

Roos made a play for Kennedy, but this has been rejected. Roos thought that Sydney may require more salary space combined with rumoured dissatisfaction of Kennedy made the offer worth a try. No one was surprised it was rejected, it was always a long shot. If you never ask, you never know.

if you don't put a line in the water you can't reel in any fish. many trips may go empty handed, but another visit later may provide?

[Robbie57 1,991]

Any rumours?

[ignition. 1,413]

Roos made a play for Kennedy, but this has been rejected. Roos thought that Sydney may require more salary space combined with rumoured dissatisfaction of Kennedy made the offer worth a try. No one was surprised it was rejected, it was always a long shot. If you never ask, you never know.

Thanks for the update Grand New Flag.

[binman 38,599]

Roos made a play for Kennedy, but this has been rejected. Roos thought that Sydney may require more salary space combined with rumoured dissatisfaction of Kennedy made the offer worth a try. No one was surprised it was rejected, it was always a long shot. If you never ask, you never know.

As much as it would have been great to get Kennedy i have to say i like the idea of getting an untried talent to the club.

Hopefully we'll find a future star (which would be a nice change) but even with all the testing and analysis there remains a large element of luck in choosing which 18 year old kid will become a Fyfe or a Dangerfield (and of course development comes into it, which i hope we will better at now than in years past). Its like a gamble and i love a gamble.

With skill in selecting and a bit of luck we might get a young gun to develop alongside of Hogan, Toumpas and Viney.

[monoccular 16,197]

if you don't put a line in the water you can't reel in any fish. many trips may go empty handed, but another visit later may provide?

Wow dee-luded. That is profound stuff. Have you been to the Mick Malthouse philosophy classes?

But well put - nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Wow dee-luded. That is profound stuff. Have you been to the Mick Malthouse philosophy classes?

But well put - nothing ventured, nothing gained.

well IMO he's in a parallel universe to mine, never the twain shell meet.

& didn't at Melbourne.

in Roos we trust, & in a brighter spirit we'll grow.

Edited October 24, 2013 by dee-luded

[daisycutter 28,609]

OK thats fine.

I may be self & caring. but I'm not really righteous over others. I'll try to share thoughts but try to limit my interference at a personal level to where its welcome. a control freak who only wishes to control my immediate environment, not to control others so much, as so many righteous &/or more right wing types try to.

viva la difference`

bit OT but are you saying that "left wing types" don't try to control others and are not righteous?

just curious

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

As much as it would have been great to get Kennedy i have to say i like the idea of getting an untried talent to the club.

Hopefully we'll find a future star (which would be a nice change) but even with all the testing and analysis there remains a large element of luck in choosing which 18 year old kid will become a Fyfe or a Dangerfield (and of course development comes into it, which i hope we will better at now than in years past). Its like a gamble and i love a gamble.

With skill in selecting and a bit of luck we might get a young gun to develop alongside of Hogan, Toumpas and Viney.

you would rather gamble than back a sure thing?

[binman 38,599]

you would rather gamble than back a sure thing?

Well that wasn't the choice (i wasn't arguing that we should not take Kennedy if available) however to answer your question yes.

[dazzledavey36 48,922]

Think fair to say we have shut up shop for this years trade period.

Hopefully this is a start of a positive year next year.

[daisycutter 28,609]

Think fair to say we have shut up shop for this years trade period.

Hopefully this is a start of a positive year next year.

bit early for the fat lady, dd36. plenty of time left for a surprise or two

[dazzledavey36 48,922]

bit early for the fat lady, dd36. plenty of time left for a surprise or two

Wouldn't be surprised, I did say early on the week we might snag another one or steal a player under a club noses somewhere but I would be pretty happy with what we have.

A Mav Weller through delisted free agent would be perfect for me.

Edited October 24, 2013 by dazzledavey36

[nutbean 8,837]

If you never ask, you never know.

This should be etched in concrete. And you dont move on until you have to. We proved with Roos that you keep asking the question until time is up and you need to make alternative arrangements. Therefore no never means no until the ship has absolutely sailed and circumstances dictate we have to move on. This hard lesson was learned when we were asking Ross Lyons manager if he was interested in a move and accepted a polite no whilst Fremantle adopted our current approach - no doesnt mean no and do everything in your power to make no, a yes..

[dee-luded 2,958]

bit OT but are you saying that "left wing types" don't try to control others and are not righteous?

just curious

nope not at all, but politically, imo, the more right winged are generally the more fixated & goal oriented to their wishes... this leads them to tred over others in their quest.

this is not godliness or anywhere near a spiritual existence, & certainly not live & let live. its more like farming lives. which imo our capitalism has shifted us to become, thru the credit cycles.

availability to easy money creates inflation & boom & bust.

this has changed everything, sport, morals, community values, & humanity. the balloons about to burst. & with it a massive implosion of reverse cycling. the pendulum will no doubt swing to far the other way.

moral of the story, try to bring back homesick players as much as possible.

[JT9 104]

Why didnt we just offer 2 for Kennedy

[beelzebub 22,230]

Why didnt we just offer 2 for Kennedy

that would nett us one player

currently the #2 pick effectively gets us 2 ...well thats my read

[dazzledavey36 48,922]

Why didnt we just offer 2 for Kennedy

He didn't want to come to us as someone said before. No point wasting pick 2 on someone that doesn't want to come to the club.

Tyson wanted to come to us and for that he has my full respect.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Why didnt we just offer 2 for Kennedy

we need Far More than just 1 very good player. we need heaps of them. & to change the clubs very culture to grow. its the old culture thats caused our ills over the longer term.

[jnrmac 19,088]

that was the the biggest hit for me, he was as cheap as it can get in that.

but time has moved on, & so should we put a big page break in, & remember it on GWS matches, & remember to give him living Hell.

Hey I still boo Scott Thompson. Cam me immature but he still gives me the irrits

[rjay 23,929]

Why didnt we just offer 2 for Kennedy

Who said we didn't?

[dee-luded 2,958]

Hey I still boo Scott Thompson. Cam me immature but he still gives me the irrits

whats that got to do with anything I still boo to. thats the fun of the fair. not enough of it, good natured but.

but vitriol & vengeance & vindictiveness, well thats does no-one anygood at all. it just steals from us all.

[Dees2014 2,377]

I very nearly fell into the temptation to post a nasty derogatory piece yesterday & pulled back.

its over.

let him go, we are far better off now, grown from all that has past, including & especially mitch robinson's 'bruise free' comments about us! very helpful re our changes coming to bear.

thanks mitch

Just remember, we would not have Hogan, or if it comes to that, probably Jackson and Roos, were it not for the Scully trade. In many ways, it set the tone for the following 18 months of disaster. We are far far better off without him. If he had stayed he would have just turned into yet another highly talented, high draft pick, demon underperforming mid fielder. I understand he is in the top three at the giants in terms of contract, and is rated 5 or 6 in terms of their mid fielders. I predict he will be gone from there when his current contract runs out in a year or two and he finds out that they try a renew it at a rate 30-40% of the current one.

Although having said that I understand he is in their leadership group although that is largely these days determined by the players. Not sure what that says overall.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Just remember, we would not have Hogan, or if it comes to that, probably Jackson and Roos, were it not for the Scully trade. In many ways, it set the tone for the following 18 months of disaster. We are far far better off without him. If he had stayed he would have just turned into yet another highly talented, high draft pick, demon underperforming mid fielder. I understand he is in the top three at the giants in terms of contract, and is rated 5 or 6 in terms of their mid fielders. I predict he will be gone from there when his current contract runs out in a year or two and he finds out that they try a renew it at a rate 30-40% of the current one.

Although having said that I understand he is in their leadership group although that is largely these days determined by the players. Not sure what that says overall.

yep, thankfully I'm well aware of that.

& I don't blame our young players for being unable to develop in our culture, because there are too many to blame them without looking deeper into our stuff, to find the root cause of Our Woes.

its not sylvia brock or even moloney or grgic who led us astray... its always been us thats off, the footy dais, & we've always been that way since the start, except when Checker brought the demon to us, & Smith carried on the Baton.

That same ill got rid of Smithy, & returned us to that same old.

............ its almost as if we have far too many solicitor/lawyer types, warning us of the perils of this one or that one, (from inside lawhouse whispers?), kept us clean, but kept us unhappy.

[Machsy 2,858]

Hey I still boo Scott Thompson. Cam me immature but he still gives me the irrits

Why am I not surprised by that..?