The Trade/Draft Rumour Mill

[dazzledavey36 49,576]

Josh Mahoney up next on trade radio!

[Demon_Tingles 211]

WRONG it's been 7 yrs of inept performances DT.

My bad haha although that has made me more depressed haha

[Young Dee 1,303]

Josh Mahoney up next on trade radio!

Thanks mate.

[Young Dee 1,303]

- Mahoney just said at this moment it looks like we won't have a great swap for pick 2 (great player) and that it is more likely we will trade it for a number of players.

- Also says Roos sees Watts as a David Mundy type going forward.

- About 2-3 Mids short

- They are really keen on Dew "he would be one of our first candidates"

Edited October 10, 2013 by Young Dee

[Jaded No More 59,538]

Hmmm I dunno how I feel about it.

Sounds like pick 2 for NQR1+NQR2+Late Pick.

I'd rather keep pick 2.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Yeah keep pick 2 Rockliff and Shuey required players at their clubs and won't be moving. Id rather keep pick 2 than trade it for a few players who are middle of the rung types.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Hmmm I dunno how I feel about it.

Sounds like pick 2 for NQR1+NQR2+Late Pick.

I'd rather keep pick 2.

Maybe I'm trying to put too much of a positive spin on it, but he said "at the moment" - with two weeks left of trading I'd like to think that the club won't pull the trigger straight away and wait until the last week before doing anything in the hope something good comes up.

Interested to see what players we might be in to though...

[Scipio 5,900]

Hmmm I dunno how I feel about it.

Sounds like pick 2 for NQR1+NQR2+Late Pick.

I'd rather keep pick 2.

With Roos and co in charge, it'll be no more NQR's. Stress less, we'll probably get two pretty decent young midfielders who can fill the large void and continue to develop.

[dazzledavey36 49,576]

Mahoney on trade radio:

• Said inbound calls from players wanting to join the club.
• Discussion was clear with colin Sylvia that they had a plan and contract for him.
• Pick 2 is still up for trade and more likely it will be a player and couple of picks.
• if the right deal is out there pick 2 will be traded. wont be given away easy.
• Tom Rockliff has been contacted by the MFC. Though wants to stay at Brisbane apparently.
• Daniel Cross is right in our sights.
• Mark Jamar could still be traded. Didn't hose down the thought of Jamar being traded.
• Well sorted in the rucks and Jolly don't think will be in our sights.
• Jack watts to play a David Mundy type midfield role.
• Captains will be picked in a month time. Both jacks no certainty to remain captains.
• Nathan Brown see's a bit of light at the end of the tunnel if added extra midfield.
• Working through the Swans with Dew. Preferred candidate. Tudor wasn't spoken about.
• Haven't spoken to Bassett.
• Haven't spoken to Adelaide regarding Sloane.

[Scipio 5,900]

Mahoney on trade radio:

• Said inbound calls from players wanting to join the club.
• Discussion was clear with colin Sylvia that they had a plan and contract for him.
• Pick 2 is still up for trade and more likely it will be a player and couple of picks.
• if the right deal is out there pick 2 will be traded. wont be given away easy.
• Tom Rockliff has been contacted by the MFC. Though wants to stay at Brisbane apparently.
• Daniel Cross is right in our sights.
• Mark Jamar could still be traded. Didn't hose down the thought of Jamar being traded.
• Well sorted in the rucks and Jolly don't think will be in our sights.
• Jack watts to play a David Mundy type midfield role.
• Captains will be picked in a month time. Both jacks no certainty to remain captains.
• Nathan Brown see's a bit of light at the end of the tunnel if added extra midfield.
• Working through the Swans with Dew. Preferred candidate. Tudor wasn't spoken about.
• Haven't spoken to Bassett.
• Haven't spoken to Adelaide regarding Sloane.

If that is true, just wow.

[whatwhat say what 19,904]

Summary of Mahoney on Trade Radio:

Presence of Roos has ‘lifted’ the club. Club is aware that on-field results have been unacceptable.

Discussions with Sylvia were very clear – he was a required player through the midfield. Free agency gave him an option, he rejected our three year deal in favour of chasing a premiership. Moving on…

Still chatting to clubs about pick 2. Trade is a three week period; week 1 hasn’t even finished yet. It’s unlikely to be a straight swap, more likely to be players and picks. Pick 2 is a valuable pick, and the combine last week shows that it’s a quality field of players available. Still open to trading the pick for the ‘right’ deal, still ‘highly likely’, but it won’t be given away.

We directly inquired about Rockliff. He and Shuey are the sort of players we’re interested in; both of their clubs said that it was no dice, and Rockliff wants to be at Brisbane. We did not offer 2 / Jamar for 7 / Rockliff. There have been no discussions re Jamar leaving the club. The Jamar story was not true, hence why we responded to the news story.

Looking at Cross. Process is it will come post-trade period.

Our ruck stocks are pretty well set, so Jolly would only come in if there was movements with our ruck stocks.

Roos’ discussions with Watts have him ear-marked for Mundy-like role, who started as a half-back before moving into the midfield. The focus of the pre-season will be on him getting right for that role, but also expect him to be able to play back and forward.

Rawlings has done a great job with our backline, and he’ll continue in that role.

Really tough period not just for our skippers but our whole leadership group. Leading Teams comes with Roos, so decisions will be made after that process has run its course.

Decision on Cuddles was made by the board as part of the structural changes to the club as a whole.

There’s no guarantees we’ll be able to replicate Port’s climb back up the ladder, but if the correct decisions are made then hope springs eternal, with good young talent injected last year, as well as senior bodies like Matt Jones and Terlich. If you look at us compared to other teams, we’re 2-3 short in terms of midfield depth and experience. That’s what we will be trying to address with this trade period.

Going through our process for the senior assistant role, Dew was a candidate who presented to the club extremely well. Right now, he would be one of the preferred candidates. Tudor was not involved in the process. Missed the stuff on Bassett; work interrupted.

Trade period is difficult as it’s quite long now and players are overseas on holidays.

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

Josh Mahoney up next on trade radio!

Played a beautiful dead bat to every ball bowled. Still, yet to score any runs after 9 overs.

[Scipio 5,900]

Maybe the inbound call was from Juice Newton?

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Thanks for the summary guys, thoroughly appreciated!

Looks like there is still plenty happening for the club - don't mind the idea of trading down from Pick 2 if it included a very good player and a pick still within the first round for us to select another mid.

Sounds as though we are right into Cross and that there are players out there who are keen to play for the club. Positive stuff all round.

[Ouch! 2,093]

If that is true, just wow.

I don't think it's that suprising for players who can't get into midfields at their clubs and want to be playing AFL week in week out.... but it means that these are fringe players at their clubs.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Played a beautiful dead bat to every ball bowled. Still, yet to score any runs after 9 overs.

Impressive. Reckon he is an all rounder, fairly adept at spin.

Still don't think we will go to the draft with pick 2.

[Scipio 5,900]

I don't think it's that suprising for players who can't get into midfields at their clubs and want to be playing AFL week in week out.... but it means that these are fringe players at their clubs.

Well it contradicts most of the other stuff that has been coming out of the media, that no one even wants to talk to us.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Thanks very much for those summaries, much appreciated.

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

Impressive. Reckon he is an all rounder, fairly adept at spin.

I've always believed that in the long form of the game, you need solidity at the top of the order and once the storm is weathered, the runs will flow.

[Dees2014 2,377]

Dees2014 - I have little doubt that we are struggling to attract who we would like for pick 2.

It's not the end of the world if we keep it but we are not attractive to experienced players and we will fail to attract who we want.

We can try and improve by about 30% points next year and go after some experience next year.

Our decisions are limited, I just hope we make a good decision.

I'm sure you are right that it is not an easy sell, although I would rather it was PR and PJ doing it than almost any other combination. The nice part about at this situation is that if nothing appropriate can be found we have sufficiently high draft picks in sufficient numbers to draft some very high quality players, particularly considering that this year's draft seems to be top heavy with high quality mids. It might also dictate that we draft Ollie Wines types rather than say an Aishe or a Toumpas type ie those who will be "ready to go" at the beginning of next year.

You are also right that considerable improvement next year will be critical in our attracting high quality free agents in the foreseeable future. If we were to sneak into the 8 next year, it will demonstrate the new PR led regime was much more than promise and players could come to us confident that in the foreseeable future we will be challenging in late September.

The next twelve months I have no doubt will determine our long term future, but as I have written elsewhere in this post, I am very confident we will get a 30-50% improvement out of our CURRENT playing group due to superior coaching (and our appallingly bad coaching in our recent past). That, together with this year's high draft picks, may be sufficient to get us in the eight next year.

Let's hope so anyway.

Edited October 10, 2013 by Dees2014

[old55 21,772]

Mahoney on trade radio:

• Pick 2 is still up for trade and more likely it will be a player and couple of picks.

Pick 2 to Collingwood for 10,11 and Paul Seedsman - not a rumour, just an idea

[dazzledavey36 49,576]

Btw completely off topic but good to see:

Rory Taggert ‏@RoryTaggert 18h

Nice early running session done. Good to see a few of the boys in at the club. #2014prep #MFC

Go Dees. Good to hear the boys back into the swing of things.

[Scipio 5,900]

Pick 2 to Collingwood for 10,11 and Paul Seedsman - not a rumour, just an idea

Forget Seedsman, go after Jamie Elliot I'd say. Can't see them parting with 10 and 11 though.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Forget Seedsman, go after Jamie Elliot I'd say. Can't see them parting with 10 and 11 though.

Could see them parting with one of 10 or 11 and a player for Pick 2 though. Still means we can select a very, very good player and add to our list as well. Not sure which player we would target from the Pies though.

[Dees2014 2,377]

Yeah keep pick 2 Rockliff and Shuey required players at their clubs and won't be moving. Id rather keep pick 2 than trade it for a few players who are middle of the rung types.

Me too.