Jobe opened his mouth without thinking now his been told to shut up. The AFL is in a pickle they dont want to take points of Essendon and dont want to suspend their players during the season. The AFL is probably praying Jobe does not poll well in this years brownlow. End of the year just after Essendon leaves the finals the results will be released, 6-8 players guilty, 18 months sentence with 12 months suspended, the remaining 6 months suspension starts immediately. All in all a couple of essendon players dont play the first couple of rounds that might just mean they play GWS, GCS and MFC in those rounds. players come back for the rest of the year all forgiven, club fined $200,000 for unintentional/reckless action with low impact. Drugs like tanking will then no longer exist.

I don't believe that the AFL could give out a suspended sentence.

But we will wait and see....

They will get banned from training together over pre season and be cherry ripe for round 1.

I just have the feeling that hey will get away with his even with Jobe admitting it.

It must be something in the water they give them to drink on the show. We thought Brock McLean put his foot in it and potted us but what has Jobe done to his club and himself. Gerard will be rapt as yet again they have the scoop of the year

You may be correct Gorg. If for no other reason than Jab's disclosure has opened a tanker full of worms and no one knows just how to handle it. Fat Andrew must be soiling his undies now because another shitfight has erupted on his watch.

The results of this inquest actually determine if I continue to watch AFL. If cheats are not punished, then you have lost my support

...........

Nope. No doctor was involved. That is part of the issue the AFL have been investigating, that the doctors were cut out of the process.

.......

Do you know this? It all revolves around the consent form. If it was signed by the club doctor, saying that all supplements were OK and permitted, then the players may be in the clear. My understanding is the players had major misgivings and insisted on a consent form that included a guarantee that the supplements were permitted.

So where does this go?

The results of this inquest actually determine if I continue to watch AFL. If cheats are not punished, then you have lost my support

I agree with your sentiments........just one point of order though; this is not an inquest and hopefully it won't come to that.

The AFL have some very deep soul searching to do - sounds maybe melodramatic, but the future of the game, or at least the AFL competition as a serious code is at stake here.

The results of this inquest actually determine if I continue to watch AFL. If cheats are not punished, then you have lost my support

I agree with this. If they arent punished severely it opens the door for everyone to do whatever they like. Itll turn into even more of an arms race and ill have no faith in the comp anymore.

Do you know this? It all revolves around the consent form. If it was signed by the club doctor, saying that all supplements were OK and permitted, then the players may be in the clear. My understanding is the players had major misgivings and insisted on a consent form that included a guarantee that the supplements were permitted.

So where does this go?

The players can never be clear under the prevailing rules once they ingest a banned substance unless they do so without giving their consent such as when the player is unconscious at the time (the only example to date of an athlete beating the rap). Fraud might be another defence but that's probably drawing a long bow.

Watson should not play this weekend. The reasons for suspending him pending the outcome of a final hearing into the charges are more compelling than in the Milne case.

Absolute disgrace he is allowed to play this weekend, but what do you expect from Andrew Demetriou and the corrupt AFL regime?

Does anyone know HOW Watson is able to play this weekend?

Or is it merely a case of Vlad being stubborn?

It's not good enough. The benefits of those tides are still there 12 months later i have been told on a number of occasions.

Nothing is done.

has vlad actually said he can play this weekend?

Apparently no charges or findings will be released until August. I think that on the back of an admission like this, Watson has to be suspended indefinitely and stripped of his Brownlow. I suspect, however, that he will be allowed to play on and will win his second Brownlow in as many years.

I agree with you, and currently Jobe is second favourite to win his second Druglow medal.

The emperor has no clothes.

This prevailing attitude by the self anointed demigods at Essendon has to be pulled back by the AFL. The defence that it was someone's else's fault is just a nonsense. What jacks me off is these players and Hird have taken zero responsibility so far.

A little bit of humility by the Watsons, Hird and Thompson will be nice instead of the blameless arrogance they display.

Brock McLean went on this programme and makes an accusation that he left a club because of a culture of experimentation for a club that had a similar culture. The claim is never vindicated and over the ensuing months McLean's position shifted. Yet the AFL acted and created a long running inquiry that destabilized McLean's former club.

Jobe Watson went on the same programme and admitted he was given a banned substance. The AFL is silent.

Why?

Brock McLean went on this programme and makes an accusation that he left a club because of a culture of experimentation for a club that had a similar culture. The claim is never vindicated and over the ensuing months McLean's position shifted. Yet the AFL acted and created a long running inquiry that destabilized McLean's former club.

Jobe Watson went on the same programme and admitted he was given a banned substance. The AFL is silent.

Why?

because Essendon's behaviour is under the scrutiny of sporting Bodies outside the AFL so either way it pays to keep sshtummm.

Brock McLean went on this programme and makes an accusation that he left a club because of a culture of experimentation for a club that had a similar culture. The claim is never vindicated and over the ensuing months McLean's position shifted. Yet the AFL acted and created a long running inquiry that destabilized McLean's former club.

Jobe Watson went on the same programme and admitted he was given a banned substance. The AFL is silent.

Why?

Took them a few days/weeks to crank up after McLean's comments. Its barely 24hrs since Watson spoke.

IMO the sh7t is going to hit the fan some time soon. Very soon.

This is now getting very ugly. I can understand why the AFL are saying nothing at the moment, it's to a fair degree out of their hands. They are in a difficult position and the game is in a very difficult position and as someone who loves the game I would hope the AFL don't take knee jerk reactions. If Jobe gets served his notice from ASADA then I think the AFL will have no choice but to stand him down but until that time what is the best thing.

There are going to be some serious ramifications come out of all this but I can't help but feel unease about the long term relationships that will break down. People with lifetime friendships forged from football will be at odds and when the blame game starts things will get very messy.

I don't like this at all.

What is banned is a mute point. Essendon will fight it out in the courts.

Good on them.. (There is a lesson here for Melbourne.)

I hope Essendon and Watson win despite my presence at the ignominious 2000

grand final humiliation.

What is banned is a mute point. Essendon will fight it out in the courts.

Good on them.. (There is a lesson here for Melbourne.)

I hope Essendon and Watson win despite my presence at the ignominious 2000

grand final humiliation.

was that the one where someone called Chopper broke one of our player's larynx?

I vaguely recall it too

I blame Hird in all of this. He had a duty of care to these players and has failed miserably. I maintain that, as much as I liked the footballer Hird, a better man than he would have resigned by now.

ok I will take you very slowly over the facts

footy clubs are made up of president committee coaches and players

the so called scientific people are a side line and make suggestions to the coach about injury recovery and training ideas, its then up to the coaching panel to sort out which idea they use ITS THIER CHOICE

now as for the players, what galah would allow HIMSELF to be injected up to 50 times in the abdomen and think its normal and not ask questions.

we teach our children to be aware of leaving drinks unattended at nightclubs, don't get in cars with drivers who have been drinking, etc etc

and these buffoons allow themselves to be INJECTED

sorry no excuses, 10 years penalty for the coach and all players

then they can explain to their children how stupid they were and maybe teach them right from wrong

also this will serve as an example to all future players

DONT FEEL SORRY FOR THEM

I think this is a far more complex issue than is being reported. The Australian Crime Commission website says that the AOD-9604 is "not currently prohibited" by WADA, and then also says it's not approved for human use. As a minimum, I think there is sufficient confusion that players who were injected or used AOD could claim a misunderstanding.