Jobe took banned drug

[rpfc 27,685]

Nothing sinister ?

Adolph redrew a few maps one evening just for fun, nothing sinister.

Youre probably right about one thing actually RPFC.....its very much about perceptions and appearances as far as Vlad ( & Co ) is concerned.

Considering what's at stake Im not surprised for one moment that the Secret Squirrel Protocol was invoked.

I suppose it goes to what anyone considers sinister. maybe we consider it just Dodgy ??

lol

[beelzebub 22,718]

Even it it doesn't 'totally erupt' in public, it may well be a blunder. Even without Hird or anyone saying things now, if AD breached confidence then you'd think ASADA would have already been [censored] off with him for the last few months. And that may well affect how they view any defences the AFL puts up in support of Essendon. Did Essendon gain enough by going first to outweigh this risk? I think not.

there is weight to this.

[mjt 640]

RPFC, by what right, power or otherwise does Vlad have for usurping the investigation and integrity of ASADA ?

He was told things that I have no doubt were meant to be kept within his own little grey Cells.

He chose to sing like a nightingale instead.

I understand his agenda, that doesnt make it right.

Thats not what David Evans has said, he's backed AD version of events.

[daisycutter 28,724]

nobody should worry

didn't the golden boy say originally "i take full responsibility"

[beelzebub 22,718]

Thats not what David Evans has said, he's backed AD version of events.

hence my post way back... Hird and Corcoran v Evans / Demetriou.

someone is telling porkies....probably all, but which ones and about what ??

[mjt 640]

hence my post way back... Hird and Corcoran v Evans / Demetriou.

someone is telling porkies....probably all, but which ones and about what ??

Hirds reputation is ruined, AD trying to run a competition and he has to deal with these fools, i feel sorry for him, the Bombers are the people that should be shouldering the blame, and he's had to deal with the fools that where running our club, none of its his doing, as someone else stated be careful what you wish for because the next CEO mightn't think as highly of Melbourne as he does.

[monoccular 16,634]

Is this as sinister as it is made out?

It was essentially just giving them a head start with regard to PR - their absolution will not arrive, the penalties would not be mitigated by that press conference way back when.

Convince me this is sinister.

I read that Vlad was given a confidential briefing by ASADA - confidential. Now IF he told any club about that in advance then that is "improper conduct" at best.

And never forget that it is Vlad who has always been going on about "the integrity of the game"! Hypocritical??

Edited July 25, 2013 by monoccular

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

According to SEN the media is gathering at Windy Hill tonight.

Board meeting...

[mjt 640]

According to SEN the media is gathering at Windy Hill tonight.

Board meeting...

That must make you all warm and fuzzy inside.

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

That must make you all warm and fuzzy inside.

Sooner the better..

[mjt 640]

Sooner the better..

Your a crackpot wyl.

[beelzebub 22,718]

Hirds reputation is ruined, AD trying to run a competition and he has to deal with these fools, i feel sorry for him, the Bombers are the people that should be shouldering the blame, and he's had to deal with the fools that where running our club, none of its his doing, as someone else stated be careful what you wish for because the next CEO mightn't think as highly of Melbourne as he does.

oh its the ol Ends justifies the mean thing....oh...OK

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

Your a crackpot wyl.

elaborate on this mjt...

[mjt 640]

elaborate on this mjt...

I don't have to elaborate, I think your 20,000 posts speak for themselves.

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

I don't have to elaborate, I think your 20,000 posts speak for themselves.

The Essendrug situation is reaching its crescendo.

Heads are going to fall...is this a problem to you?

[sue 8,602]

Hirds reputation is ruined, AD trying to run a competition and he has to deal with these fools, i feel sorry for him, the Bombers are the people that should be shouldering the blame, and he's had to deal with the fools that where running our club, none of its his doing, as someone else stated be careful what you wish for because the next CEO mightn't think as highly of Melbourne as he does.

You may well be right that the next CEO might be worse for MFC than AD. And he may well be great for the AFL generally. And Essendon and the MFC may have been run by fools. I'm not going to argue any of that, but I'm surprised you defend him on this. Surely he has made a mistake here regardless of how well you think he has done his job otherwise.

[mjt 640]

You may well be right that the next CEO might be worse for MFC than AD. And he may well be great for the AFL generally. And Essendon and the MFC may have been run by fools. I'm not going to argue any of that, but I'm surprised you defend him on this. Surely he has made a mistake here regardless of how well you think he has done his job otherwise.

The way I see it Sue is its AD and Evans version against Hird and Robson, Hird passes the buck at every opportunity and he is the head coach, if he jabbed my boy 40 to 50 times with peptides I would break his jaw, I can't see how anyone would take James word over AD, that's just my opinion sue.

[sue 8,602]

The way I see it Sue is its AD and Evans version against Hird and Robson, Hird passes the buck at every opportunity and he is the head coach, if he jabbed my boy 40 to 50 times with peptides I would break his jaw, I can't see how anyone would take James word over AD, that's just my opinion sue.

I'm with you on Hird. But it didn't need the AD & Evans vs. Hird & Robson barney for me to assume that AD did tip them off one way or another. As I posted elsewhere it is possible AD didn't explicitly tip off Essendon during the conversation in dispute. But given Essendon was the team that was under general suspicion at the time, any indication that ASADA was on the warpath would be a tip off, especially if Essendon was the only club contacted!

I don't think I am the only person who assumed there had been a tip off when within a few days after the Essendon media event ASADA did theirs. AD has not denied he had a briefing - he just says they didn't tell me which club. But blind Freddy within AFL circles knew Essendon was under general suspicion.

Edited July 25, 2013 by sue

[mjt 640]

I think that the sooner James Hird takes responsibility for his actions the better off the situation will be.

Edited July 25, 2013 by mjt

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I think that the sooner James Hird takes responsibility for his actions the better off the situation will be.

That would be like asking Neil Craig not to wear shorty shorts. It ain't gonna happen.

[jnrmac 19,505]

According to SEN the media is gathering at Windy Hill tonight.

Board meeting...

Is that the regular Board meeting like when they sacked Sheedy??

[Return to Glory 7,846]

Hird may well be in a spot of bother if he's got AD pitted against him

[Soidee 1,496]

Sam Newmans weekly tirade trying to prosecute Essendons case is very suspicious in itself. What/who is Newman trying to protect here? and why?

The trouble with all this saga is ALL the lads in this industry including Demetriou know where the skeletons are. This could make or break the AFL.

[rjay 24,185]

"David, I don't know what the club is", AD...well that tells me that AD has told Evans there is an investigation otherwise why would he be pushing the don't know what the club is..what club? why does it matter? what's going on? wasn't it supposed to be confidential information? He didn't find out the club until after the ACC Fed govt presser, so no he didn't know the club but he certainly did know there was an investigation and gave Essendon reason to go public.

Well...as I've said before they were tipped off that a club was under investigation and it didn't take a genius to add up 1+1 and come up with it was us, Essendon.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

I can see why this is an issue in general but is the crux of the matter that 'self reporting' can reduce a penalty?