WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - PAUL ROOS

[Dee Fan 3,247]

What if Roos gets us to a top 4 spot in his 3rd year? (if he stays on as head coach for that 3rd year) Right now, that seems unlikely, but a top 8 position isn't such a stretch for 2016. It's easy to envisage many Demons wanting to keep him at the helm.

However, the 'seamless' changeover is a terrific concept and it's one that I agree with. But it could get a little awkward down the track. What sounds great in theory doesn't always work in practice. No two clubs are alike. Roos to Longmire worked beautifully. Mick to Bucks ... that could turn out to be a disaster. The Pies should have changed their minds on that one.

But as a concept, appointing the next coach in the next little while is a great idea in theory. It can have the effect of setting out a long term viable future for the club. Obviously, our situation is vastly different to Collingwood's one. We need to virtually start from scratch. The beauty of it is that Roos has done it before so any pitfalls can be spotted well in advance. Exciting times ahead ...

The difference is Macca , Mick didn't want to go and Buckley is just an unbelievable big head, I would hope that we get a coach in waiting that has talent and coaching skills, not just a big ego.

I would want Roos to stay on however, Longmire had a ready made team and won a flag but they have fallen off the pace a bit since then.

[Dees2014 2,377]

They have fallen off the pace because of their unbelievably large injury list, many to key players. They will be back this week. Carlton will not get a look in. I still predict Swans will again make the GF.

I think you are a bit hard on Buckley. He gives me the impression of someone who knows exactly what needs to be done but is not allowed off the lease because Eddie wants above all else short term success. Collingwood certainly has no Paul Roos style "no dh's" policy, and they desperately need one. Reading between the lines of what Buckley said at his post game news conference that is exactly what they will get no matter whether Eddie wants it or not.

You can name the "rat pack" - everyone of them dh's - Swann, Didak, even I understand from a Collingwood insider - Thomas.

One very fortunate thing about this is under Roos I'm sure we will not be tempted to trade for any of them. Under our previous administrations, I'm sure we would have been first in there, but to be fair I would in no way put Chris Dawes in that category who seems in every way, a quality individual.

[Gorgoroth 12,369]

Buckley was not an assistant long enough I believe and needed to get out of Collingwood to learn more.

I thought Roos would identify a assistant next year so the year after they become senior assistant.

[deanox 8,877]

I think you should examine closely what Roos said. Specifically, he wants two or three senior assistants who are all capable of taking over and the best one gets the job. It is pretty simple really. Is done all the time in the corporate world. It is call succession planning.

We will not know who the next Demon coach is for at least 2 to 2 1/2 years in my opinion, but there will be endless speculation. Get used to it.

IMO I suspect Roos wants eventually to end up CEO, and I think he would make an excellent one. He is clearly a very ambitious man. It would not surprise me if that was part of the negotiation. Roos for PJ in three years time would make a lot of sense. Maybe we should (will) send him to the 3 month Harvard mini MBA over one summer.

PJ and the new Chairman obviously did something that the others chasing him did not (could not) do. He has consistently said it was the "total package" and the succession arrangement which got him across the line.

Great for him, and fantastic for the Demons.

I hope this multiple succession plan options is the way we go but that wasn't the impression I got. Happy to read it again though and see if I got it wrong.

I would however be very surprised if Peter Jackson has even considered Roos as CEO. He has no business management experience. That is a terrible idea in my opinion.

[Gorgoroth 12,369]

With PJ saying we have Roos so we will re look at how to structure the FD don't be surprised if we get Walshy for a few years with Roos to succeed him as head of the FD. Which sounds exactly what Roos would like to do, help set the standards and such of the club, with no coaching.

We already have PJ grooming a CEO I thought.

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

It's all well and good speculating about the Roos succession plan already but what happened to the great football tradition of taking things one week at a time?

I'm more interested ATM in who we retain and who we recruit before going on to who we're going to play in round 1 of the NAB Cup or the practice match series next year.

[dazzledavey36 49,581]

Well today Roos officially starts his duties! I think list managment today?

[beelzebub 22,553]

I think you should examine closely what Roos said. Specifically, he wants two or three senior assistants who are all capable of taking over and the best one gets the job. It is pretty simple really. Is done all the time in the corporate world. It is call succession planning.

We will not know who the next Demon coach is for at least 2 to 2 1/2 years in my opinion, but there will be endless speculation. Get used to it.

IMO I suspect Roos wants eventually to end up CEO, and I think he would make an excellent one. He is clearly a very ambitious man. It would not surprise me if that was part of the negotiation. Roos for PJ in three years time would make a lot of sense. Maybe we should (will) send him to the 3 month Harvard mini MBA over one summer.

PJ and the new Chairman obviously did something that the others chasing him did not (could not) do. He has consistently said it was the "total package" and the succession arrangement which got him across the line.

Great for him, and fantastic for the Demons.

Some very interesting ideas amongst this.

Totally agree it will be Roos totally hands on for 2 years, the 3rd will be the final grooming of the anointed one.

Hadnt actually thought of PR as CEO . Its an idea I suppose but Think hes more inclined to seek an overseer mentor role a la Craigs role for a few years ( just to see his new charge right )

Interesting times ahead.

[Demon Dynasty 16,154]

surely we wont name the successor until the end of the next season?

Wouldnt Roos want a season of seeing them up close in action before he decides who the man to takeover will be?

This is an excellent point HH. Given the low ebb the club had reached we needed at least 2 years of list management and rebuilding/coaching with clear air under Roos before (publicly) announcing a succession plan for say year4.

Assuming PJ, Roos & Co are as smart as everyone is suggesting, there has to be a process. Consisting of obvious aspects such as selection (2 or more potential assistants that could eventually be handed the reigns), assessment of potential candidates' under various conditions. Possibly even occasional match day coaching in year 3 (both candidates) under the watch of Roos etc. IMO if the job is to be carried out with the best possible assistant being chosen the club needed to allow at least 4 years, ie 2 under Roos (clear air) and 2 for the succession process. Starting the succession process from day 1 is a mistake IMO. Roos will have enough issues to deal with in his first 6 months without the burden of succession planning being placed on his mantle so early. This is one aspect of the set up that could have been better managed by PJ IMO.

[rpfc 27,662]

I think you should examine closely what Roos said. Specifically, he wants two or three senior assistants who are all capable of taking over and the best one gets the job. It is pretty simple really. Is done all the time in the corporate world. It is call succession planning.

We will not know who the next Demon coach is for at least 2 to 2 1/2 years in my opinion, but there will be endless speculation. Get used to it.

What Roos said was that he and Peter would identify 2 or 3 "Assistants that want to head coaches" over the next few weeks (and Roos spoke about the fact that some Assistant Coaches don't want to be a head coach) and hire a "Senior Assistant for 2014 that will then be Head Coach in the future."

He spoke about certainty for the players about their senior coach for the next 5 to 7 years and that invovles a Senior Assistant-Head Coach in waiting.

We are going to have an assistant hired to be the next coach in the next few weeks.

IMO I suspect Roos wants eventually to end up CEO, and I think he would make an excellent one. He is clearly a very ambitious man. It would not surprise me if that was part of the negotiation. Roos for PJ in three years time would make a lot of sense. Maybe we should (will) send him to the 3 month Harvard mini MBA over one summer.

PJ and the new Chairman obviously did something that the others chasing him did not (could not) do. He has consistently said it was the "total package" and the succession arrangement which got him across the line.

Great for him, and fantastic for the Demons.

I agree that there is a real possibility that Roos will stick around past the 3 years but I don't know if CEO is in his sights.

I guess that is where the speculation will lie for the next three years.

[Machsy 2,858]

Roos as CEO?

That is ridiculous.

Roos has absolutely no designs on that role.

[Mickey 4,238]

Is there any news on Geoff Walsh?

[Spirit of the Demon 211]

Thrilled with the news.

A great achievement by PJ and the Board.

Well done.

[beelzebub 22,553]

How will the Roos era unfold at Melbourne?

Artiicle from The Roar. Kinda positive feel about it.

better than having all the negative stuff written about us

[Demoneyes 562]

Is there any news on Geoff Walsh?

From what I have heard Mr Walsh has given his intention to the club he will take up the position. Thats great news also! In regards to assistants, we have spoken to both S Burns and A Simpson and A Richardson is in the mix if there is a guarantee of succession otherwise he will stay where he is.

[Demoneyes 562]

In regards to Roos influence going forward next year? We have a solid back line, a great forward line but we need mids! Several picks in the ND and a pick in the PSD could mean we load up on what we need for next year and all of a sudden....bang! Our improvement will be dramatic! Keep the faith! Goos fraba...goss fraba!

[dazzledavey36 49,581]

Can some give a brief summary on what he says tonight on the couch?

[dazzledavey36 49,581]

Can some give a brief summary on what he says tonight on the couch?

[champagne football 27]

On the Couch:

Gerard opens the show and introduces Roosy as the MFC coach and congratulates him. Mike jokes and suggests that the announcement was supposed to be tomorrow according to last week's show. Roosy says his wife is due back on Tues and he looks forward to the challenge of being the MFC coach.

Talking about the pies now...

Will update when they start to talk about the Dees

[dazzledavey36 49,581]

cheers CF

[Gorgoroth 12,369]

Still waiting.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

It's up next folks. The next guest OTC is the coach of the MFC.

2 mins and counting.

I'm pumped. I bloody love Paul Roos. He's AFL's Dalai Lama.

Edited September 9, 2013 by Ron Burgundy

[Gorgoroth 12,369]

Today was about structure of the FD and recruiting.

Hasn't spoken to Simpson or Burns, but will be calling them.

Craig won't be at th club.

[Gorgoroth 12,369]

Pivotal turning points were the succession plan and take a 55% pay cut to stay at Sydney academy.

Wow 55% cut!

Thanks Swannies!

[Gorgoroth 12,369]

Spoke to Sylvia briefly prior to him getting on the plane.

Has spoken to Watts.