WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - PAUL ROOS

[Deano74 156]

Wooshan and Lethal have officially ruled themselves out. Clarkson's manager has ruled him out.

Roos is our preferred option. He is being pursued strongly and it didn't start monday.

Daryl Wakelin a former Choco player pumped him up unbelievably today and said he was fantastic with the players, great for developing the young talent and a fantastic coach to play under

you are spot on.

at the moment you would say its Roos, Williams and Eade.

anyone else would be a surprise.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Wooshan and Lethal have officially ruled themselves out. Clarkson's manager has ruled him out.

Roos is our preferred option. He is being pursued strongly and it didn't start monday.

Daryl Wakelin a former Choco player pumped him up unbelievably today and said he was fantastic with the players, great for developing the young talent and a fantastic coach to play under.

Didn't Pendlebury say this about Neeld? I suppose Neeld was untried.......

[beelzebub 23,383]

Seems to be a vastly different scenario this time than last..

here and now we re looking at Roos , Chocco , Eade

last time

thank god things can and do change....t f f t !!!

[Deano74 156]

Didn't Pendlebury say this about Neeld? I suppose Neeld was untried.......

I spose he wasnt in charge at collingwood, so offered advice rather than tryng to dictate ?

[KLV 1,768]

This is one of the reasons that Roos would be the must get.

He will make the older players want to stay, the youngsters keen as mustard to learn. Imagine how excited Viney, Toumpas and Hogan would be to play under Roos not to mention a Trengrove, Grimes, Watts. Then new draftees wouldnt be wishing against coming to the demons. Then you have sponors who would be climbing aboard to be part of the ressurgence.

It would totally change the mindset of the club.

But i dont think money is it all, Im sure hes set up for life.

I think the club has to sell the romance of it. Turning the oldest club from the duldrems to premiership chance in 4-5 yrs.

That would lock him into legend status and give him satisfaction of saving the Melbourne Football Club.

Hes still young and i reckon his family would back him in while he is not to long out of the game.

Fingers Crossed.

Yes, he is the key, everything else would fall into place, membership, sponsors, retaining players, attracting free agents, and confidence!

Come on, PJ work some magic, and get the demons Paul Roos. Best challenge in footy!

[beelzebub 23,383]

Didn't Pendlebury say this about Neeld? I suppose Neeld was untried.......

For mine id totally disregard any of these types of comments.. its a little like a reference, whos ever going to write a bad one .

Results are the litmus.. simple as that. Look at their results.

i.e you need to win X% of games to get to finals , you need to win most finals to get to a grandfinal

You need to have players bleed for you in order to win a GF..

theres the quick and simple checklist

who has that..

figure it out...hire them

done

Edited June 19, 2013 by belzebub59

[McQueen 17,867]

Woosher and Lethal have officially ruled themselves out. Clarkson's manager has ruled him out.

Roos is our preferred option. He is being pursued strongly and it didn't start monday.

Daryl Wakelin a former Choco player pumped him up unbelievably today and said he was fantastic with the players, great for developing the young talent and a fantastic coach to play under.

Choco and Eade seem to be next in line. It will be one of those three I would expect.

Word is over here in the West is that Woosha has split with his wife and he's doing it pretty tough. That's the reason he seems a bit indifferent about the whole coaching caper right now.

On the bright side, a move to the East coast and a handy salary after his missus has cleaned him out might be a possibility.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Dont want chemists..

rather another.. might just be me

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Seems to be a vastly different scenario this time than last..

here and now we re looking at Roos , Chocco , Eade

last time

thank god things can and do change....t f f t !!!

exactly, as much dummy-spitting as there has been abut the appointment of Neeld, it has to be recognised that at the time the only options were he and a bunch of other 'up and coming' assistant types.. there is nothing anyone could have done about that, it's just the way the cards are dealt.. it's like having a couple of high draft picks in a weak draft... fortunately it seems to be three genuine types on offer this time around

[jumbo returns 6,741]

I spose he wasnt in charge at collingwood, so offered advice rather than tryng to dictate ?

Yep, that what I was thinking.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Word is over here in the West is that Woosha has split with his wife and he's doing it pretty tough. That's the reason he seems a bit indifferent about the whole coaching caper right now.

On the bright side, a move to the East coast and a handy salary after his missus has cleaned him out might be a possibility.

Eff him

it's one thing to be at the helm of a club that is in the top 2-3 in terms of wealth, having clubs go half the country to play in to a sold-out, one-sided home crowd.. it is quite another to try and salvage the MFC ship that is so much more compromised than the WCE have it. Worsfold doesn't have the time in the real trenches

[jumbo returns 6,741]

For mine id totally disregard any of these types of comments.. its a little like a reference, whos ever going to write a bad one .

Results are the litmus.. simple as that. Look at their results.

i.e you need to win X% of games to get to finals , you need to win most finals to get to a grandfinal

You need to have players bleed for you in order to win a GF..

theres the quick and simple checklist

who has that..

figure it out...hire them

done

I know we're coming from, but perhaps you need to build a culture first? Our culture has been about tanking and poor training practices for years.

[Adam The God 30,428]

exactly, as much dummy-spitting as there has been abut the appointment of Neeld, it has to be recognised that at the time the only options were he and a bunch of other 'up and coming' assistant types.. there is nothing anyone could have done about that, it's just the way the cards are dealt.. it's like having a couple of high draft picks in a weak draft... fortunately it seems to be three genuine types on offer this time around

It depends how you approach the situation. As it turned out, Ross Lyon was available at the right price.

You're right though. This time there seems to be more experience, with potential candidates having less ties to senior coaching positions.

Edited June 19, 2013 by AdamFarr

[McQueen 17,867]

Eff him

it's one thing to be at the helm of a club that is in the top 2-3 in terms of wealth, having clubs go half the country to play in to a sold-out, one-sided home crowd.. it is quite another to try and salvage the MFC ship that is so much more compromised than the WCE have it. Worsfold doesn't have the time in the real trenches

He's a premiership player and coach and you reckon he hasn't had the time in the trenches?

Right...

[bandicoot 1,395]

FOR THE 800,000TH TIME:

Stop talking about us having made recruiting mistakes

We picked pretty much everyone we were expected to at the picks they were taken, certainly with regard to top5 picks anyway

Whwn you are talking picks from the teens onward it becomes much more speculative and you will find all clubs have not got returns from heaps of these picks

DEVELOPING them is where we have failed, that's why we lag behind behind Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong, Collingwood etc they have the money, culture whatever it is to actually take these picks and turn them into star players

It's the same reason the Dogs, Saints and Roos haven't quite been good enough, the playing field is not even

The saints have played of in 2 grand finals and countless finals games.

They were a bounce of the ball away from winning a flag.

Give me that any day over the Melbourne saga

[Swampfox 190]

Word is over here in the West is that Woosha has split with his wife and he's doing it pretty tough. That's the reason he seems a bit indifferent about the whole coaching caper right now.

On the bright side, a move to the East coast and a handy salary after his missus has cleaned him out might be a possibility.

I doubt Woosha will coach anyone in 2014

Looks gaunt and washed out and i expect him to walk away from football altogether

[Carrot Top 947]

The saints have played of in 2 grand finals and countless finals games.

They were a bounce of the ball away from winning a flag.

Give me that any day over the Melbourne saga

I don't want either. I want to see real success. Us, the Saints or the Dogs are all the same: it's just the level of failure that differs.

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,765]

you're right, there's about 5% of the population that don't roll like that

Compelling.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Word is over here in the West is that Woosha has split with his wife and he's doing it pretty tough. That's the reason he seems a bit indifferent about the whole coaching caper right now.

On the bright side, a move to the East coast and a handy salary after his missus has cleaned him out might be a possibility.

Ohh, is that whats going on... I saw him on TV a couple of days back & he looked terrible,,, Tired, & haggard... worn out... he looked like he'd been on the tiles for a 6 week bender, then shaved for the interview.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,310]

I don't want either. I want to see real success. Us, the Saints or the Dogs are all the same: it's just the level of failure that differs.

The Saints were a toe poke and a dodgy bounce from back to back. If you have a team that is still in it with 5 minutes to go in the GF it pretty much comes down to luck then.

[Pennant St Dee 13,305]

I doubt Woosha will coach anyone in 2014

Looks gaunt and washed out and i expect him to walk away from football altogether

Re Woosha looking gaunt I have seen him out and about a lot and he is lean all over. He got serious into Marathon/long distance running in the last 12 months and is pounding a fair few miles and spending a lot less time in the gym. Hence the much leaner look.

The personal issues with the marriage is what has his mind elsewhere ATM

[Jarka 767]

Landing Roos would be the equivalent to when the Blues got Judd and how it completely turned around the perception of the joint. Of course winning the occasional game would be nice but we urgently need a positive future - sorry for stating the bleeding obvious.

[bazza226 74]

I would not rely on Clarkson's manager and have a coffee with Clarko to ascertain whether he would be interested in the coaching gig at MFC.

GL did that with Ross Lyon and where did that end?

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

you are spot on.

at the moment you would say its Roos, Williams and Eade.

anyone else would be a surprise.

You can't rule out Craig. If he turns the team around in the 2nd half of the season and wins say 3 - 5 games with significantly better performances it will be difficult not to give him the role. Perhaps only Roos would get nod in front of him if this was the case.

Neeld was a cancer, the players hated him, he put in place an out-dated inappropriate, copied game plan, players were not allowed to play their natural game, went into their shells and lost self confidence, self belief and thus the ability to play. Honestly Neeld should have been sacked at the end of last season. The writing was well and truly on the wall last season.

If confidence can be restored, performance could turn around quicker than people think. I am expecting a much better performance this weekend and through to the end of the season. It is my hope that there will be a slow improvement through to season ends.

The job will go to one of:

Roos, Williams, Eade or Craig

Edited June 20, 2013 by Grand New Flag

[Jarka 767]

I would not rely on Clarkson's manager and have a coffee with Clarko to ascertain whether he would be interested in the coaching gig at MFC.

GL did that with Ross Lyon and where did that end?

That was a bit different though, RL kept his intentions even from his own manager, effectively destroying their relationship. What RL was a real bastards act, I highly doubt that Clarkson would do down that same path.