Collingwood chasing Sylvia

[Deemachine 58]

According to SEN. In my opinion: great news, see you later Col, you could have been great if only you had self discipline, passion and the mindset of a leader.

[What 18,810]

hes a free agent, he will be linked to everyone by seasons end

Hope he stays, we can ill afford to lose another senior hardened body

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

Pies might be expecting to lose daisy, would have thought col would be asking for decent coin

[P-man 13,353]

Reported on SEN. Must be true.

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

I reckon he would dominate in a good team.

[Soidee 1,496]

I reckon he would dominate in a good team.

Absolutely sick and tired of hearing this about Melbourne players. By the way, who was the last Demon to dominate in a good team?

[DemonWA 3,658]

According to SEN. In my opinion: great news, see you later Col, you could have been great if only you had self discipline, passion and the mindset of a leader.

Silly post, the way i see it, the reality of the situation is that we cant afford to loso\e any of our good players. We can argue about whether he could have been better at other clubs or with a different attitude, but as it still stands he is a better player than most on our list. must keep IMO

[jumbo returns 6,619]

Absolutely sick and tired of hearing this about Melbourne players. By the way, who was the last Demon to dominate in a good team?

Darren Jolly?

Greg Wells?

Earl Spalding?

Jeff Farmer?

Stan Alves?

[Deemachine 58]

Silly post, the way i see it, the reality of the situation is that we cant afford to loso\e any of our good players. We can argue about whether he could have been better at other clubs or with a different attitude, but as it still stands he is a better player than most on our list. must keep IMO

But he's not a good player. He's lazy, selfish and turns it on against weak opposition (GWS game anyone?) We can Definitely afford to lose Sylvia and his attitude and use the cash saved to chase someone decent in the free agency period.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Absolutely sick and tired of hearing this about Melbourne players. By the way, who was the last Demon to dominate in a good team?

Darren Jolly?

Greg Wells?

Earl Spalding?

Jeff Farmer?

Stan Alves?

Travis Johnstone?... just joking.

I know I will get some hate for this but what about Brock McLean? Playing better at Carlton than he did with us.

Bruce, Miller, Johnstone, Petterd, $cully - all on par or worse.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Is Sylvia a restriced or unrestriced free agent?

[RalphiusMaximus 6,005]

Darren Jolly?

Greg Wells?

Earl Spalding?

Jeff Farmer?

Stan Alves?

Scott Thompson

Stephen Powell to a lesser extent.

Brock McLean is starting to look that way

Brent Moloney? We'll see.

Happy that the other one is just average.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

But he's not a good player. He's lazy, selfish and turns it on against weak opposition (GWS game anyone?) We can Definitely afford to lose Sylvia and his attitude and use the cash saved to chase someone decent in the free agency period.

That is rubbish. He has played some of his best footy, including this year, against decent opposition. Typical Demonland myth.

[Friday 71]

yes, lets get rid of everyone over the age of 23. Then we can really get to the foundations of the rebuild's rebuild's rebuild.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Is Sylvia a restriced or unrestriced free agent?

Unrestricted.

[Young Dee 1,303]

But he's not a good player. He's lazy, selfish and turns it on against weak opposition (GWS game anyone?) We can Definitely afford to lose Sylvia and his attitude and use the cash saved to chase someone decent in the free agency period.

I agree that his effort is questionable but wouldn't every Melbourne players be? For almost all his career he has been stuck in a pathetic cancerous team with no real experience of success - no wonder most of our team lacks intensity. As the team starts to improve so will Sylvia - they will actually be playing for something (finals/flag - because right now they know they can't get into finals). He is one of the top 2-3 players at the club and has been consistent this year under Neeld so no way can we afford to let him go for next to nothing. You will be turning in your grave the moment he pulls on a black and white jumper.

[Little Richard 5,943]

That is rubbish. He has played some of his best footy, including this year, against decent opposition. Typical Demonland myth.

Demonland myth? It's not a myth, he has constantly under performed and shown laziness, a lack of leadership and selfishness for as long as he has been here.

So far this year and last year he has been better and I'd have been all for getting rid of him a couple of years ago but I fear that if we lost him this year he would leave a large hole in the list. Not in terms of any kind of leadership or as a role model but he is a big body and to Neeld, 145 games experience...

[ICU2 Jerry Jerry 257]

I reckon he would dominate in a good team.

This is tiring. It's players like Colin that are supposed to make us a good team. Not play well when other players do the hard work for him.

I hear the same thing about Watts, Blease and others. How about these players actually deliver and who knows we might just be a good team.

[deeko 937]

I must completely over rate some players after reading some of the comments in these threads for those people who think Daisy is soft and the Col is not needed.

I wonder what he really has to do to earn the respect of some people here, it sounds like anything under 30 touches and 5 goals is not good enough.

Let's all agree that he is never going to be that star player, he will never win a brownlow and he will probably never win a coaches award for being the king of 1 percenters like our Jordie continually does. Also, he is not a leaders boot lace but that's not his fault. Some people are born with it, others aren't. Why should be try turn him into one?? Memories of Brad Green flood back.

He is a genuine HFF who has stints on the ball, ala Chappy or Stevey J and no I am not putting him anywhere near the standards of those two but his position should be similar 75% in the forward line with a chop out on the ball. Maybe if the ball was forward a bit more we would see some more Col action.

Now from the half way mark last year (and after coming back from a big injury pre season) he averaged 22 touches and a goal a game which I don't think is to bad in a team that was complete filth.

This year, removing the Essendon disgrace and noting our team is even worse than last year he is still averaging 20 touches and a goal. This is his limit and I don't know why so many would be happy to see a player getting these numbers leave.

Most will say that he is continually kicking long to no one which watching, yes I agree, but also from being at the games he has stuff all options to kick to, we all agree there is no spread and without Clarke or Dawes I'd probably rather kick it to an opposition player than Sellar as well.

We continually cry out for decent grade mids and the one player we have with some talent people are happy to see the back of.

[Generation dee 1,336]

Absolutely sick and tired of hearing this about Melbourne players. By the way, who was the last Demon to dominate in a good team?

Moloney and gydberts if you believe demonland.

[dee-eee 231]

I'm tipping he'll be off . Isn't he matey with Shaw and Didak ?

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Unrestricted.

Damn.

[Go the Biff 3,212]

I must completely over rate some players after reading some of the comments in these threads for those people who think Daisy is soft and the Col is not needed.

I wonder what he really has to do to earn the respect of some people here, it sounds like anything under 30 touches and 5 goals is not good enough

Nice to see someone watches

[Little Richard 5,943]

I reckon he would dominate in a good team.

I don't think it is that he would dominate in a good team but rather with good, strong leaders around him. Sydney for example, I think would turn him into a gun.

He just isn't a leader Col and I think if he had a couple more Junior McDonalds around to keep him in line and motivate him he would have come good. Too late for that now.

Edited May 21, 2013 by Django

[Chook 14,702]

If Col can stop destroying his teammates' good work by bombing the ball over the heads of our forwards or getting caught in tackles, he might become a useful player. Until then, he's one of the many reasons we can't seem to collect long chains of possessions; he turns the ball over far too often for someone with his skill level.

He's a pretty good player, but unfortunately he isn't as good as he thinks he is - and that is his downfall. We need to keep him if possible, but we have to learn how to use him better.