Neeld Post Match - Platitudes and other nonsense talk

[Soidee 1,496]

Everyone here has every right to be absolutely spitting chips but the presser was fine. The two concerns highlighted here (the strength factor compared to GC and the look at the players stuff) are ridiculous. The strength stuff was used as an example of how poor we were and explained why we missed so many bloody tackles and the don't worry about me line was a re-hash of something he said after the Essendon game. He was actually going in to bat for the players suggesting he's big enough and ugly enough to deal with the aftermath of yet another thrashing but feared for the psyche of his young team.

The real concern was the three hours that occured before the presser. There's a carcass there that is still warm. Forget the presser.

Fire and brimstone stuff from supporters because there ain't no fire in the belly of the team and its coach. Natives are no longer restless, the natives are now in war costume charging towards the enemy!!

[dee-luded 2,959]

I don't even listen to his pressers anymore, and havent done for a while now. Just irks me too much, even though I am in somewhat of a state of footy catatonia, where I really don't care anymore.

I'm in that same state, but moreso about the club & not as much about Neeld.

I want the club to become IN-Clusive...

[baysidedave 246]

I know now what it would feel like to be a Labor supporter.

The incompetence is breathtaking!

I am a Labor supporter and this is heaps worse but I reckon it will be worse when the neo-con Abbott looks after all his rich mates and screws the rest of us.

[baysidedave 246]

Neeld must go. Probably be mid season. Experienced coach required. Like DS but no experience. Would Collingwood let Eade go mid season? Release Eade to save us! Perhaps Roos? Not a lot to lose for Roos We can't get any worse .

Roos will not do it, he loves living in Sydney too much.

[Mongrel Dee 56]

Neeld has lost the respect of his constituency and we all know what that means.

[deanox 9,641]

The "dont look at me, look at the players" was utterly disgraceful

Listen to it properly, when he said that he was talking about all the external pressure that had been on the club and the effect they have. He was saying don't just look at me and think 'he has had a heap of external factors (stynes, davey/misfud, tanking, aod cream), the same pressures have been affecting the players.

[Ted Lasso 18,766]

Looking at the AFL website it would seem Jackson is at the very least weighing up sacking Neeld.

[Jaded No More 67,626]

Listen to it properly, when he said that he was talking about all the external pressure that had been on the club and the effect they have. He was saying don't just look at me and think 'he has had a heap of external factors (stynes, davey/misfud, tanking, aod cream), the same pressures have been affecting the players.

All it is, is a deflection away from him.

FFS stand up and take some accountability for the crap your team, your list, your selected players are bringing each week.

His players cop ridicule and abuse in the media, on the ground, every damn week, and he has the nerve to tell the media to focus on the players and not on him?

They should be focusing on him, I don't think Nathan Jones should go home each week and think "damn I must be a bad player" and open the paper and read how bad the team he just captained is.

Neeld should have the balls to say "I know I am under pressure, I know we are not performing and I have to take at least some of the blame for that", not "focus on the players".

[Longsufferingnomore 1,609]

Listen to it properly, when he said that he was talking about all the external pressure that had been on the club and the effect they have. He was saying don't just look at me and think 'he has had a heap of external factors (stynes, davey/misfud, tanking, aod cream), the same pressures have been affecting the players.

Deanox don't even bother. Some here only see what they want to see.

[deanox 9,641]

Look after today I couldn't care whether he stays or goes (provided we have a replacement and a plan ready to take over), however I don't think he was deflecting or blaming the players, he was saying "everyone talks about how much pressure im under, but don't make it about me, make it about the players" - he is saying, don't worry about saying 'how are you coping mark?' think about the fact that the players have had to suffer the same distractions etc. He was actually sticking up for the players and saying 'remember that they are still human and are affected by all this stuff'..

I think Mark has backed the players by saying 'these are the group to take us forward' and 'these guys have talent, they just don't have experience'.

What was he meant to say? 'Yeah the boys were crap today because i coached them poorly?'

[Ted Lasso 18,766]

Look after today I couldn't care whether he stays or goes (provided we have a replacement and a plan ready to take over), however I don't think he was deflecting or blaming the players, he was saying "everyone talks about how much pressure im under, but don't make it about me, make it about the players" - he is saying, don't worry about saying 'how are you coping mark?' think about the fact that the players have had to suffer the same distractions etc. He was actually sticking up for the players and saying 'remember that they are still human and are affected by all this stuff'..

I think Mark has backed the players by saying 'these are the group to take us forward' and 'these guys have talent, they just don't have experience'.

What was he meant to say? 'Yeah the boys were crap today because i coached them poorly?'

He could be honest, "The performance wasn't good enough, i the coach and the players take full responsibility and apologise to the supporters and members for a poor display today and promise a better showing against the tigers."

[heartbeatstrue 57]

Look he's finished as coach.

I wouldn't bother dancing on his grave.

He has not got a clue whats going on and has no idea how to fix it.

This list has gone so far backwards under this guy its now a tragedy.

Jackson needs to move and put him out of his pain.

It needs to be quick so we can start moving on asap. Quick so the players can feel good about their footy and their futures again. The longer this inept Board delay, the greater the damage and loss of support.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Obviously said a hell of a lot more in the presser than he said to the team at half time.

Couldn't believe how early we were on the ground for the second half.

[13thFlagIsComing 542]

Here's some ideas for Neeld this week.

Here's a simple plan to get things going again.

1) Go down the guts. Stay away from the boundary line. We all can see players wanting to run down the guts but auto-correct themselves and try and hit a target running at full speed towards the boundary line. It seems we only play within a 10 metre corridor inside the boundary line and any space inside of that and you will be docked your match payments. Speaking of going down the guts...

2) Do we have a KPI that 50% of our inside 50's are kicked to the members stand pocket 30 metres out? Every game this year we have led to the same spot all the time for not much return.

3) Try kicking in from behinds to the Southern Stand side of the ground. It seems we only have 2 kick in strategies. One is the long bomb to the MCC members side and the other is the short kick to the pocket and then a long kick down the MCC wing.

4) Know your players - each player should know which players can kick with their left and can kick with their right. Too many times we'll handball to a player running past who has to turn around and get on their preferred side which stops all momentum. If i was coach i would have every player kick on their left , right 20-30-40-50 meters to a running target so they know by instinct when player x has the ball that they will kick it approx. 30-40 metres.

5) Triangles - Look at Geelong on Friday night - if a player was in trouble they were confident enough to handball behind their head to an open player who can run away from the contest and drive forward. Set up triangles in each contest. 1 player goes in, 1 stays out for the receive or goes in as well and have a option out the back of the contest. Player 3 can either stay back for the receive or f player 2 gets it , player 3 can sweep past to his right for the receive, Example...

Player 3 (moves this way towards player 2)

oppo 1 Player 1 oppo 2

(ball) Player 2 (feeds player 2 running past)

6) Goal Kicking practice in training. We must be the only sport in the world that avoids any training on the fundemental part of the game that allows you to win a game. 100 shots each this week. Play round the world inside and outside 50. In a golf sense its like that saying "drive for show, putt for dough" Some of our shots this week were deplorable.

7) Go one on one - we can't zone up. We don't squeeze teams with pressure so get some old school accountability back in the team.

8) Draft day - Don't draft for talent anymore ...we need some c#nt in the team a.l.a Jones, Viney.

[DeeVoted 583]

How about Neeld to Casey, and wait for them to plumett to the bottom, and swap him with Welsh for the rest of the year.

Then wait for Neeld to cry fowl, or not making the MFC players available.

[Go the Biff 3,360]

Listen to it properly, when he said that he was talking about all the external pressure that had been on the club and the effect they have. He was saying don't just look at me and think 'he has had a heap of external factors (stynes, davey/misfud, tanking, aod cream), the same pressures have been affecting the players.

Agreed - it's been taken out of context but you can bet the media will react as most here have. Neeld will kick himself when he realises how many guns he's loaded with those words - and they will all be trained on him.

[Swampfox 190]

Neeld has always had excellent coaching credentials and that is probably why he was a successful candidate

just goes to show that theory and practice are not necessarily related

Absolute waste of time if our board sit on their hands when they have already made up their minds

Cannot see how he could possibly be given an extension so IMO he should go NOW

IMO just pick a footy side and tell them to just play basic football

Lets see what the hell we can do with Jonsey calling the shots

At least the players respect Nathan Jones

Edited May 12, 2013 by Swampfox

[Glenn Molloy 494]

More worried about what I see on the field than the presser. But when I click on the link and see that the presser lasts 17 minutes, I know that he's trying to explain too much and is likely to say something that the media will have a field day with. You look at the other press conferences on the AFL site - most last 6 or 7 minutes. If I was him I'd be keeping answers, simple, straight to the point and then getting the hell out of there.

[RickyJ45 399]

The worst comments he have made were at the start of the season that we would surprise a few people and success was closer than what we think..

then after getting smashed the first few weeks etc looking completely shocked and disbelieving....

"we know exactly where we are at, dont you worry about that.."

No you don't, you have NFI!

[Mr Steve 3,820]

G Lyon just rang, want's to help find another coach.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

The worst comments he have made were at the start of the season that we would surprise a few people and success was closer than what we think..

then after getting smashed the first few weeks etc looking completely shocked and disbelieving....

I routinely fall for the pre-season hype. I consider that my perogative as a supporter. Sad to say, this time round I was pretty measured with my expectations. It seems instead that it was the coach that got caught up in the hype surrounding track form. He was genuinely shocked after round 1. The warning bells were ringing.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I routinely fall for the pre-season hype. I consider that my perogative as a supporter. Sad to say, this time round I was pretty measured with my expectations. It seems instead that it was the coach that got caught up in the hype surrounding track form. He was genuinely shocked after round 1. The warning bells were ringing.

Alarm bells rang last year. They started ringing again in pre season. The performance in Round 1 then the terrible press conference that followed was the line well and truly crossed. Neeld was finished there and then. Round 2 only proved it.

The mythology that Neeld was bringing the players around and there were definite "improvements" has been well and truly dealt with in Round 7.

[heartbeatstrue 57]

Thinking about yesterday, maybe dreaming (OK, nightmare actually), the players play like they're frightened of something. There was one passage of spontaneous footy in the 3rd qtr that was so out of the ordinary that I commented to my wife beside me, they just played on instinct and it was exciting. It resulted in the ball with Howe directly in front about 40 out. He missed but it was what I go to the footy to watch.

The rest of the day it was like frightened rabbits drilled to try and do things that don't come natural, don't make sense and are destined to abysmal failure.

If MFC keep this up, nobody will want to watch let alone endure the embarrassing beltings.

What are they afraid of? Not getting a game next week? Is Neeld such a pathetic manager and motivator that he thinks having them all afraid of him is the recipe for success?

The coaches box is the same, the whole lot of them looked uninspired and unemotional all the way through. It was a pathetic passive bunch in there. If anybody had any clues about what to do, they too appeared too frightened to speak up.

A culture of fear is not the way to get results or to play footy that is attractive to watch.

[Robbie1 5]

I had lunch the other day with a member of the Carlton board. His line is that when Melbourne were looking for a new Coach, Gazza Lyon had lunch with Eddie and Eddie highly recommended Neeld, 'no brainer' he said. Apparently Collingwood wanted to get rid of Neeld. Mission accomplished, the pies got rid of a lousy assistant coach and installed him as head coach with a traditional rival club. Touché Eddie. Needless to say that Gazza cracked it when it dawned on him and no longer has anything to do with Eddie. Poor Gazza!!!

[Harrisonrules 273]

I know now what it would feel like to be a Labor supporter.

The incompetence is breathtaking!

BEWARE

Bailey may. =. Gillard

Neeld will =. Abbott