Perspective Please

[Brian Wilson 331]

Today hurt. I'm as gutted as anyone. But what I won't do is call for the dismissal of the coach/board/players/cheer squad/demon mascot/pie vendors after Round 1.

I heard the booing from our own fans today. But I won't participate in that. I understand the frustration but abusing your own team doesn't help them and reflects badly on the people booing.

This is not the end of the world. This is only the end of Round 1. We were terrible this afternoon, on a scale that I couldn't have imagined this morning. There were so many problems that I can't even begin to list them. I'll take a couple of days to get over it, and then I'll watch the tape to see if I can pick out some details.

But I'll be at the game next week. I'll support my team. I'll always be positive. Because that's loyalty.

[KLV 1,768]

Today hurt. I'm as gutted as anyone. But what I won't do is call for the dismissal of the coach/board/players/cheer squad/demon mascot/pie vendors after Round 1.

I heard the booing from our own fans today. But I won't participate in that. I understand the frustration but abusing your own team doesn't help them and reflects badly on the people booing.ki

This is not the end of the world. This is only the end of Round 1. We were terrible this afternoon, on a scale that I couldn't have imagined this morning. There were so many problems that I can't even begin to list them. I'll take a couple of days to get over it, and then I'll watch the tape to see if I can pick out some details.

But I'll be at the game next week. I'll support my team. I'll always be positive. Because that's loyalty.

Me too, not sure about the kids though.

Just so disappointed

[Outside fifty 967]

To me loyalty must be earned. For at least the last 5 years this football club has treated it's loyal supporters with contempt. It's hardly surprising that people are fed-up with these consistent half hearted performances. Having said that I do admire your stance.

[Choko 493]

Well I was there for the turd soup that was dished up, and I stayed to the end, and I boo'ed. And I would do it again. I see absolutely no reason why boo'ing is inappropriate or unwarranted. I went to the Dogs' game yesterday, and they chased, spread and ran. We did nothing. We are nothing, going nowhere.

[Biffen 12,949]

Everyone who wears our colours deserved booing off the ground today.

I didn't participate in the booing but I dont blame them.

I look at the assistants and wonder what it is they have tried to teach these guys.

I wonder if any of the players give a stuff about our club at all. Mitch Clark aside.

It's our money, our team and us fans are the only constant in the MFC-the others are hired help.

If we serve anything up like that again we should all abuse them and boo them off.

I wouldn't get paid if I f$%ed my job up that much, let alone supported.

Dirty , dirty day.

I like to think of myself as pretty staunch but I'm over it.

The players may as well get pi55ed and have the conversation about why they play.

It's a basic question that they never answer with actions.

[DemonDave 1,096]

so should we have sat there and applauded the players as they came off at the end?

Today was disgusting blight on our football club, that kind of performance cannot and should not be tolerated under any circumstances.

By not voicing our displeasure at the players, coaches and match committee would only seemingly serve to endorse these ongoing failings.

[P-man 13,366]

Honestly that would've washed over this time last year. In fact it did. But not anymore. The club needs to feel the anger from supporters in no uncertain terms. Sick of it. Completely sick to death of it.

[titan_uranus 25,176]

I have never left a game early, and if I was able to be there today, I'd have been there to the end.

However, I don't agree with clapping the side off after a performance like that. If you're not going to put the effort in, you don't deserve anything other than booing, and the players need to feel the disgust of the supporters.

The booing was deserved and appropriate.

[Dr. Mubutu 867]

I heard the booing from our own fans today. But I won't participate in that. I understand the frustration but abusing your own team doesn't help them and reflects badly on the people booing.

But I'll be at the game next week. I'll support my team. I'll always be positive. Because that's loyalty.

No. Always being positive is stupidity. There is clearly something very wrong with this playing group, and to ignore it would be calamitous for the MFC.

Frankly, I'm GLAD the players were booed off this afternoon. After that godawful display of dross masquerading as football, I'd have worried if they got any other response. It shows that the supporter base is absolutely sick and tired of excuses, when it's obvious that the players just couldn't be arsed.

[Brian Wilson 331]

It's interesting that the alternative offered to booing is clapping. It's possible to do neither. I'm very critical of the club but at the games, I will always support. Booing does not change anything in a productive way.

I don't think that anyone will be hurting more than the players and coaches right now.

There is a massive knee jerk reaction going on here. Hence my call for perspective. I won't judge the coaches or the players until I see how the team goes over the course of the season.

Maybe a break from footy for a few days would do us all some good.

[titan_uranus 25,176]

It's interesting that the alternative offered to booing is clapping. It's possible to do neither. I'm very critical of the club but at the games, I will always support. Booing does not change anything in a productive way.

I don't think that anyone will be hurting more than the players and coaches right now.

There is a massive knee jerk reaction going on here. Hence my call for perspective. I won't judge the coaches or the players until I see how the team goes over the course of the season.

Maybe a break from footy for a few days would do us all some good.

It's one alternative, and from my experience, it seems to be the one preferred by MFC supporters. I'm not used to our fans doing anything other than clap the side off after a game.

It's not like the booing was organised or agreed upon. It was passion boiling over. We all care about this club, or we wouldn't be here. There's only so much we can put up with, though.

If you'd asked someone on here in 2008 where we'd be in 2013, the answer wouldn't have been a description of today's game.

[The heart beats true 18,183]

I don't think that anyone will be hurting more than the players and coaches right now.

Why doesn't Jack Watts give me his pay cheque for the game and test your theory?

The players and coaches get paid. I paid to go and watch them be annihilated by a club that was so embarrassing 4 games ago they sacked their coach.

I'm tired of hearing this excuse. I'll know it hurts when they show it hurts by standing up in games and not letting it happen. Until then I firmly believe they are just happy to be on the big stage and tell their mates how good it is.

[DemonDan83 95]

I think this should go into the perspective thread. I am as disgusted as anyone however Jack Watts in this interview sounds absolutely gutted and when asked what his message was to the supporters he couldn't even answer. Post game interview.

[jnrmac 20,276]

No. Always being positive is stupidity. There is clearly something very wrong with this playing group, and to ignore it would be calamitous for the MFC.

Frankly, I'm GLAD the players were booed off this afternoon. After that godawful display of dross masquerading as football, I'd have worried if they got any other response. It shows that the supporter base is absolutely sick and tired of excuses, when it's obvious that the players just couldn't be arsed.

Agreed

[Soidee 1,496]

BW

Threads such as this are so stupid. Long suffering supporters don't need to be told by the likes of you to shut up. This nonsense that its only round one might work for a side who have had success, but the MFC has been woeful for far too long. Booing is a last resort and we don't like it, however today we played a side who came 14th last year and on our home ground and round one!

It was utter rot to watch, and I do not blame any supporter for saying enuff is enuff!

Those who have the audacity to tell us to have perspective, should back off. You do not have a mortgage on perspective pal.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

people can react what ever way they like.

[TONKA 64]

cheering and booing is the supporters voice. its about time everyone heard it.

[stranga 328]

It's not loyalty it's lunacy. We deserve a voice

[titan_uranus 25,176]

I think this should go into the perspective thread. I am as disgusted as anyone however Jack Watts in this interview sounds absolutely gutted and when asked what his message was to the supporters he couldn't even answer. Post game interview.

He briefly talks about how 'we've been losing for so long', when asked about our confidence. It's not unfair to infer from that that he's saying 'when we get behind, we're so used to losing that we lose our confidence in our ability to win'. Lends credence to the 'tanking has instilled a losing culture in our team'? Food for thought.

[dee-luded 2,959]

No. Always being positive is stupidity. There is clearly something very wrong with this playing group, and to ignore it would be calamitous for the MFC.

Frankly, I'm GLAD the players were booed off this afternoon. After that godawful display of dross masquerading as football, I'd have worried if they got any other response. It shows that the supporter base is absolutely sick and tired of excuses, when it's obvious that the players just couldn't be arsed.

Something has to wake them up to the fact that they are the only ones out there who can change things.

Waking up to a 'reality', can be a very painful thing.

[Deemachine 58]

Hows this for perspective?

We pay good money that we work hard to earn to be a part of the club.

The players are payed good money to work hard on the field to be part of the club.

Today, the players (with the exception of Viney and Clark) did not work for their pay.

I would have thought that with 14 players turned over in the offseason, those remaining from last year would give a little more. They didn't lift, they didn't show any passion for the red V on their chests. They left the work up to an 18 year old who, luckily, is only here because of his dad.

I pay my membership for the right to say I'm part of the club, these blokes are taking the cash and having a laugh. I will tell them when I'm unhappy with their performance, just as I would be told if my job performance was not up to scratch. It is time for 90% of the playing group to pull their heads in and wake up to the fact that they are about to cost another coach his career.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Here's some perspective for you 'Brian Wilson' ... If the MFC continues to serve up that lamentable shyte for much longer and then we will almost certainly go down the route of Fitzroy and become a footnote in league history.

We were pathetic and disgusting and the players, coaches and admin deserve every whack they get from every quarter.

Supporters who claim "loyalty" in the face of that aren't to be admired, but pitied.

Edited March 31, 2013 by Range Rover

[Brian Wilson 331]

BW

Threads such as this are so stupid. Long suffering supporters don't need to be told by the likes of you to shut up. This nonsense that its only round one might work for a side who have had success, but the MFC has been woeful for far too long. Booing is a last resort and we don't like it, however today we played a side who came 14th last year and on our home ground and round one!

It was utter rot to watch, and I do not blame any supporter for saying enuff is enuff!

Those who have the audacity to tell us to have perspective, should back off. You do not have a mortgage on perspective pal.

Good to see I'm still your pal. I will back off. As I said, i am going to take a couple of days before watching the tape. Then I'd like to talk about footy, rather than just emotion.

The likes of me started this thread because I feel it is necessary to provide some balance to the calls for Neeld's head (amongst many others). He won't be sacked this week, so such calls are, at best, futile, and at worst, destructive.

We won't gain anything positive by booing; that much I'm sure. We have a team that is obviously very low on confidence and they need our support now more than ever.

If nothing else, this thread has provided a good place for people like yourself to vent.

[Range Rover 1,935]

I think this should go into the perspective thread. I am as disgusted as anyone however Jack Watts in this interview sounds absolutely gutted and when asked what his message was to the supporters he couldn't even answer. Post game interview.

AFL is a tough brutal sport. Unfortunately Jack is not a tough, brutal man. Nice bloke though he seems to be, he's so far from having what it takes to succeed in this sport it's not funny.

[dees189227 12,453]

I just watched the news and saw a set of parents thanking the public for there thoughts and condolences for there death of there only two children who died when that wall collapsed at RMIT.

They were heading off to the Carlton/ Richmond game when they were just in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

Now I went to the game today, yes im [censored] off I forked out money for a membership and yes the way my footy team played disgusted me but know one died,

Im just pointing out thats its a football game and not the end of the world or a life.