Adelaide Game a Reality Check: Trengove

[IRW 1,387]

What could he have said? Well Greeny said"I wish I could have been better".....poignant honest and straight up. It made me thank Brad for doing his best. He was never very smooth in front of the cameras but I think that shows what happens when you realise that stepping off the reality bus and into real life allows you to be honest.... Stuff the outdated garbage and geriatrics that Neil Craig keeps recyclicing....get Sally McClennan in to teach them some personal pride, how to focus on the job at hand and talk from the heart.

[daisycutter 29,616]

he was probably using the notes handed down to him from Brad

[nutbean 8,838]

The media gives us no respect, so we shouldn't bother giving honest or useful answers until things change.

Problem is - i dont think that it was intentional to give such an insipid answer.

I understand they are kids and will cut slack - but Collingwood had a reality check on the weekend -we had more of the same check.

[IRW 1,387]

he was probably using the notes handed down to him from Brad

Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Brad was usually awful but I reckon he showed something on Sunday. The awful truth is that there is no Brad Murphy in the approved MFC speakers list.....I reckon Jonesy would be ok if they gave him a regular gig, a surfing analogy would go a long way

[daisycutter 29,616]

Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Brad was usually awful but I reckon he showed something on Sunday. The awful truth is that there is no Brad Murphy in the approved MFC speakers list.....I reckon Jonesy would be ok if they gave him a regular gig, a surfing analogy would go a long way

I was referring to the cheat sheets Brad used when he was captain.

[old dee 23,792]

I don't know what you want him to say....maybe......"We are absolute crap and I'm pissing off now while I still can"

Or...."sorry not talking to anyone anymore, even when I am co captain"

What do you want him to say?????

Nothing would be better than that.

My reality check came in round 1

[nutbean 8,838]

I took exception with a tweet from Morton last year after a big defeat - "difficult day- learned alot" - I tweeted back - you didnt learn anything yet - you saw alot. How you play next week and thereafter will determine how much you have learned"- to his credit he tweeted back and said "agree!"

[IRW 1,387]

I was referring to the cheat sheets Brad used when he was captain.

Fair enough and I was bemoaning the lack of a ROBERT Murphy or even a BRAD Sewell.Perpaps it comes with practise but .......I'm not sure that Trenners has the right stuff for the Press...forward or otherwise.

[bing181 9,240]

I read the interview. Don't have a problem with it. And if I had, I wouldn't have bothered starting a thread about it.

[Yossarian 1,820]

Check out the video for the interview, it comes across much better than the article does. I've got no problem with what Jack had to say.

I have stopped reading Matt Burgan articles though. Cliched, over-emotional crap that makes me want to punch through a wall.

[DemonWA 3,934]

By Matt Burgan

this is the guy the thread should be aimed at, why make "reality check" the head line?!

[bush demon 2,041]

to come out with obvious platitudes like that means jt is just not on the reality bus. our reality check is now 47 years old last time i checked.

[old dee 23,792]

to come out with obvious platitudes like that means jt is just not on the reality bus. our reality check is now 47 years old last time i checked.

There has been the odd year of hope in there bd

But sadly it is getting close to 10 years since the last one.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

Shut it and work harder on his own kicking would be a good start.

Just FYI, players are required to do media. Do you think it would be better to do a 'no comment' interview???

Get a grip.

[Sir Why You Little 37,044]

Just FYI, players are required to do media. Do you think it would be better to do a 'no comment' interview???

Get a grip.

I work in the media mate. A bad interview is worse than silence.

Tony Abbott comes to mind.

Grip your own.

[The Reverend 1,736]

I caught the reality bus the other day. It was full of crazy people and junkies. All of them dressed in red and blue muttering meaningless platitudes and threatening to post them on Demonland.

Get on the optimism bus. It's full of happy, smiling people who understand that next year brings a whole new set of possibilities.

[old dee 23,792]

Just FYI, players are required to do media. Do you think it would be better to do a 'no comment' interview???

Get a grip.

I actually think the whole AFl attitude to players and coaches having to do interviews is wrong.

What was gained from watching Ratten last weekend after his career just went down the toilet.

Or some kid clearly out of his depth?

[Sir Why You Little 37,044]

Get on the optimism bus. It's full of happy, smiling people who understand that next year brings a whole new set of possibilities.

Look out Ned Flanders is back...!!

[Yossarian 1,820]

By Matt Burgan

this is the guy the thread should be aimed at, why make "reality check" the head line?!

Glad someone's with me on this. Drives me nuts.

[daisycutter 29,616]

Fair enough and I was bemoaning the lack of a ROBERT Murphy or even a BRAD Sewell.Perpaps it comes with practise but .......I'm not sure that Trenners has the right stuff for the Press...forward or otherwise.

you know I wonder if he actually said that. he could have been set up e.g. experienced reporter in friendly voice says "so Jack I suppose playing a top 4 side like Adelaide was a bit of a reality check?" to which Jack says "er yeah I suppose it was"

just supposin' myself here but i don't trust the media one little bit

[Undeeterred 3,124]

I actually think the whole AFl attitude to players and coaches having to do interviews is wrong.

What was gained from watching Ratten last weekend after his career just went down the toilet.

Or some kid clearly out of his depth?

Absolutely agree - but unfortunately that's the broadcasting deal that applies to each club. What's the point in an endless parade of kids talking the same garbage?

Although Patrick Dangerfield's interview on SEN after the game was exceptional. He is articulate, intelligent and frank, which is more than can be said for most.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

I work in the media mate. A bad interview is worse than silence.

Tony Abbott comes to mind.

Grip your own.

They are obliged to do them. Just like Tony Abbott. How does it look when Tony Abbott walks out of Parliament and refuses to say anything? Bad.

They don't have the 'silence' option, in reality.

[Sir Why You Little 37,044]

They are obliged to do them. Just like Tony Abbott. How does it look when Tony Abbott walks out of Parliament and refuses to say anything? Bad.

They don't have the 'silence' option, in reality.

No they don't. But the club needs to put more time into the media contingent because the above effort makes a mockery of us supporters. And we need them all

People are gettingjack of it.

Say nothing. DO.

Edited August 28, 2012 by why you little

[Nasher 33,616]

No they don't. But the club needs to put more time into the media contingent because the above effort makes a mockery of us supporters. And we need them all

People are gettingjack of it.

Say nothing. DO.

People just need to harden up and work out what's candid and what's just an automatic response. There are heaps of reasons why you would end up with an interview full of fluff, so it's always going to happen.

The player might be nervous. He might be unsure about what he's allowed to say within grounds of confidentiality. He might get ambushed with a hand grenade of a question (see Brock McLean). All these things lead to your thought process feeling completely clouded. You feel rushed and you don't give yourself the time to really digest what you've been asked or really think through your answer and you tend to just follow the path the interviewer has put you on even if it's not the right one, or you allow the interviewer to put words in your mouth because you can't find any. This is so often the case:

Interviewer: Do you think yesterday was a reality check for the club?

Player X: Yeah, I think it probably was actually.

Headline: Player X says match was reality check for club.

When I post on Demonland, if I read something that I believe deserves a considered response, I usually take a few minutes to think about it. Get up, get a glass of water or whatever and really think it through before posting. The net result, I hope, is a well considered post that conveys the correct message clearly. The reason I do this is because I know that I'm a terrible on the spot thinker. I need time to think my answer through, otherwise I make a poor post. This is something I've learned through adulthood, though. I reckon if I was a 20 year old footballer doing interviews you'd have been tearing your hair out in frustration. As I said, not everyone is Jack Grimes, who is clearly a good on the spot thinker. Grimes gives a good interview.

Really, though, bottom line is that I can't believe people are wailing about this. This has only been happening since footy media existed, surely we've learned to just accept that that's how it is by now. I've wasted more than enough of my lifetime's quota of words on this post.

Edited August 28, 2012 by Nasher

[Sir Why You Little 37,044]

People just need to harden up and work out what's candid and what's just an automatic response. There are heaps of reasons why you would end up with an interview full of fluff, so it's always going to happen.

The player might be nervous. He might be unsure about what he's allowed to say within grounds of confidentiality. He might get ambushed with a hand grenade of a question (see Brock McLean). All these things lead to your thought process feeling completely clouded. You feel rushed and you don't give yourself the time to really digest what you've been asked or really think through your answer and you tend to just follow the path the interviewer has put you on even if it's not the right one, or you allow the interviewer to put words in your mouth because you can't find any. This is so often the case:

Interviewer: Do you think yesterday was a reality check for the club?

Player X: Yeah, I think it probably was actually.

Headline: Player X says match was reality check for club.

When I post on Demonland, if I read something that I believe deserves a considered response, I usually take a few minutes to think about it. Get up, get a glass of water or whatever and really think it through before posting. The net result, I hope, is a well considered post that conveys the correct message clearly. The reason I do this is because I know that I'm a terrible on the spot thinker. I need time to think my answer through, otherwise I make a poor post. This is something I've learned through adulthood, though. I reckon if I was a 20 year old footballer doing interviews you'd have been tearing your hair out in frustration. As I said, not everyone is Jack Grimes, who is clearly a good on the spot thinker. Grimes gives a good interview.

Really, though, bottom line is that I can't believe people are wailing about this. This has only been happening since footy media existed, surely we've learned to just accept that that's how it is by now. I've wasted more than enough of my lifetime's quota of words on this post.

So why did you bother?