Trade Sylvia - just do it

[Jaded No More 68,975]

My crystal ball says that in 5 years time we'll all be sitting at the G at Sylvia's farewell game, moaning that he could have been "the greatest footballer ever, if he wasn't so lazy".

Just like the club itself, Sylvia will forever continue to torture us, divide us, and generally make us want to bang our heads against the wall.

When he is good, he is very good. It's just that he isn't good very often, which is far more frustrating than watching a player who is plain talentless.

[Dannyz 3,008]

My crystal ball says that in 5 years time we'll all be sitting at the G at Sylvia's farewell game, moaning that he could have been "the greatest footballer ever, if he wasn't so lazy".

Just like the club itself, Sylvia will forever continue to torture us, divide us, and generally make us want to bang our heads against the wall.

When he is good, he is very good. It's just that he isn't good very often, which is far more frustrating than watching a player who is plain talentless.

His been very good in alot of the final 10 games - the consistency is almost there. We've been saying it for years but another Pre-season (A Neeld/Misson pre-season) should see him become an elite player next season.

[old55 23,834]

it'd have to be a good deal.

[Bossdog 2,002]

In regards to consistency I mean more over the duration of his career. I actually think we don't have to be shite for very much longer. If we play our cards right over the free agency and trade period (especially) and use picks well, we can turn it around rapidly.

Just tell me who are you going to trade him for????

A 18yo draft pick???? ....What other midfielder from other clubs are you going to replace him with.....

It's all very well to yell....trade him...delist him.... but you have to get a better player to replace him

So tell me who is going to replace him??????

[Bossdog 2,002]

Sorry used 'replace' too many times...

Edited August 27, 2012 by Bossdog

[Hannibal 5,814]

Yep and after all these years I've decided to go home to my wife.

Say hello for me.

[Little Richard 6,265]

Just tell me who are you going to trade him for????

A 18yo draft pick???? ....What other midfielder from other clubs are you going to replace him with.....

It's all very well to yell....trade him...delist him.... but you have to get a better player to replace him

So tell me who is going to replace him??????

Basically if we could get a 2nd rounder for him, somewhere in the early 20's, this could be packaged with a player or what have you to pick up a solid established mid. Doesn't have to be a superstar or anything, a hard worker with some leadership ability that fills in the leadership vacuum created by Sylvia.

[jnrmac 20,276]

Col will stay next year. Neeld likes him and sees him as part of the future. With Green gone and Moloney's future in doubt, we need to retain experience, talented players who are starting to show that they can perform under this game plan.

The only way he will go is if he seriously doesn't want to play for us and wants out.

8 years of average crud is what Sylvia has given us, Dream on if you think he will step up from that,

[Allen Jakovich 516]

One bad game?? are you for real?? 3 possessions to half time last week.

NEVER finished inside the top 5 in our b&f in 8 seasons.

Lazy lazy lazy. Must go. He is a cancer. No wonder our culture is shiite when we have lazy senior players who won't chase, and give second efforts. What must younger players think after watching him?? Oh if he doesn't run why should I....

Can't go quick enough for mine.

yes, one bad game. I don't care about previous years or the start of the year when he was recovering from a broken back. Since then he has been CONSISTEntly excellent. so stfu

[jnrmac 20,276]

yes, one bad game. I don't care about previous years or the start of the year when he was recovering from a broken back. Since then he has been CONSISTEntly excellent. so stfu

Quality post. What are you 5years old? Schoolyard bully?? Is it school holidays again?

He's a liability because he has consistently proven cannot play a team role nor perform consistently as an individual. If you think 4 games out of 5 makes him a champion you are deluded.

[daisycutter 29,892]

Quality post. What are you 5years old? Schoolyard bully?? Is it school holidays again?

He's a liability because he has consistently proven cannot play a team role nor perform consistently as an individual. If you think 4 games out of 5 makes him a champion you are deluded.

from Neeld's comments he doesn't agree with you. even suggests a leadership role.

i know col is frustrating and hasn't fulfilled his potential but neeld reckons he is now on-board so we might see a better col next year

if there is a chance of that then we need to keep him. we haven't got much class and i doubt we are going to get all the mature fa/trades that many landers expect

[jacey 333]

from Neeld's comments he doesn't agree with you. even suggests a leadership role.

i know col is frustrating and hasn't fulfilled his potential but neeld reckons he is now on-board so we might see a better col next year

if there is a chance of that then we need to keep him. we haven't got much class and i doubt we are going to get all the mature fa/trades that many landers expect

Maybe but Dean Bailey was keen to turn around Travis Johnstone and play him off the halfback. Traded within months.

Can't see how this Sylvia is different (age/talent/price) to TJ.

Mind you posters were against TJ being traded. Pfft

[daisycutter 29,892]

Maybe but Dean Bailey was keen to turn around Travis Johnstone and play him off the halfback. Traded within months.

Can't see how this Sylvia is different (age/talent/price) to TJ.

Mind you posters were against TJ being traded. Pfft

I wasn't talking about landers being against trading col, i was saying many landers think we are going to score well on fa and trades to bring in some experienced good players from other clubs. I'm thinking this may not happen so easily and we don't want to get stuck with little experience (class) and essentially just a new bunch of kids. Of course I'm hoping this doesn't happen and we strike it rich with some good gets (in which case we can give up some players like col)

but of course anything could happen between now and end of drafting but i'm skeptical especially about picking up any classy experienced mids

[rolly 149]

Maybe but Dean Bailey was keen to turn around Travis Johnstone and play him off the halfback. Traded within months.

Can't see how this Sylvia is different (age/talent/price) to TJ.

Mind you posters were against TJ being traded. Pfft

pretty sure we got a first round pick for johnstone...are you suggesting we will get the sane for sylvia

[beelzebub 23,390]

pretty sure we got a first round pick for johnstone...are you suggesting we will get the sane for sylvia

thatd be fine by me

[rjay 25,306]

Have never been a fan of Moloney and Silvia in the same side, with Moloney gone Silvia has stepped up and will probably be a keeper unless their is someone better out there that we really need. He is one of the few players with true trade value.

[jnrmac 20,276]

pretty sure we got a first round pick for johnstone...are you suggesting we will get the sane for sylvia

He's worth a 1st rounder to someone. Maybe a Sydney. I'd take it in a heartbeat. As I would Beemer for Boak.

[robbo24 66]

I've said it before i'll say it again. Sylvia is our best player. Judging him harsher than others is unfair. Players don't seem to thrive in the environment that we provide, yet he is still one of our most productive.

Don't tell me about B&F finishes. I don't care. He has battled OP, started seasons with broken backs and broken jaws. He's been played on a HFF or deep in the forward line when he should have always been in the midfield. He is our only player capable of tearing a game apart, yet people want to move him on for untried kids? Give me a spell.

He is our best kick, surprisingly quick, great mark and has improved his decision making greatly.

Good, fit footballers can play until they are 34. He still has 8 years and a couple of premierships left in him at the MFC

[hardtack 10,861]

His been very good in alot of the final 10 games - the consistency is almost there. We've been saying it for years but another Pre-season (A Neeld/Misson pre-season) should see him become an elite player next season.

Let's see him get through a full pre-season without any off-field indiscretions... if he can manage that, I believe he can step up and possibly even find himself back in the leadership group.

[binman 44,533]

Sorry used 'replace' too many times...

With the edit function just replace the times you have written replace with a suitable replacement .

By the by talk of trading Sylvia is crazy talk. As i have just posted on another thread, col with a decent run with injuries could be our most important player next year.

I've loved his last 8 or so games, his coach has praised his work ethic and leadership (and i don't think Neeld is one to gild the lily) and in an interview this week sounded focused and professional (noting that playing well last week is ok but he needs to back it up this week in Perth).

He also noted he is dead keen to get back into pre season work.

[binman 44,533]

He's worth a 1st rounder to someone. Maybe a Sydney. I'd take it in a heartbeat. As I would Beemer for Boak.

Not trying to be a smart arse Junior, but this business about trading Boak for Beamer tends to weaken your credibility on the trade front. Has the hundreds of related posts not alerted you to the fact that Moloney is a restricted free agent?

If he want to go to Port all they have to do is offer him an amount that is more than we would be willing to match to keep him (which to be honest i don't think would be much, especially given we ill get compensation if he goes to another club as a FA). Boak is unlikely to come into the equation (unless we did something weird like match their offer in order to force a trade, but we won't do that and i'm not sure that it is within the rules anyway)

[Little Richard 6,265]

I've said it before i'll say it again. Sylvia is our best player. Judging him harsher than others is unfair. Players don't seem to thrive in the environment that we provide, yet he is still one of our most productive.

Don't tell me about B&F finishes. I don't care. He has battled OP, started seasons with broken backs and broken jaws. He's been played on a HFF or deep in the forward line when he should have always been in the midfield. He is our only player capable of tearing a game apart, yet people want to move him on for untried kids? Give me a spell.

He is our best kick, surprisingly quick, great mark and has improved his decision making greatly.

Good, fit footballers can play until they are 34. He still has 8 years and a couple of premierships left in him at the MFC

It is the fact that he has produced sweet fa in 8 years and is supposed to be a senior leader of the club that he is in the firing line, or would you prefer to take pot shots at players who have just finished their second or third season?

8 years? That is complete rubbish, there is no way he'll be playing in 2019/2020. How often do you get players playing past 32-33? Very very rarely.

[Ron Burgundy 8,587]

I hope he gets elevated to the leadership group next year.

Inherent in that will be that he's earnt it, he's focussed, and that he's finally acting as a mature, disciplined, committed MFC leader - on and off the field.

If he brings that level of focus and commitment, he could win the Brownlow.

[binman 44,533]

I hope he gets elevated to the leadership group next year.

Inherent in that will be that he's earnt it, he's focussed, and that he's finally acting as a mature, disciplined, committed MFC leader - on and off the field.

If he brings that level of focus and commitment, he could win the Brownlow.

You know i wouldn't be shocked if he does get elevated into the LG. A good way to encourage some people to step up is to tell them you think they have it in them and that its time they do so. Might be another example of Neelds man management approach'.

[beelzebub 23,390]

The most annoying thing abouth this bloke is that if he ever put in 4 qtrs for 22 games at at least 75% of his ability hed be an absolute gem.

its just that about 98% of us just think this will never happen. In that light we'd want a player that was maybe 75% as good but 100% of the time as opposed to the 15% of brilliance most of the time you get with Col

its all about return. Anyone in investment will get this no doubt