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I have real problems in understanding why there may exist such divisions between a list as young and inexperienced as ours and the senior management. Certainly there is no sign of there being enough leadership shown by any player to actually consolidate a particular view amongst the team.

i think it would be led by the the older players, Green, Rivers, Jamar and co regarding the handling of junior last year, and youngsters are just following in the lead of those guys.

thats my guess

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Sorry, to clear up the confusion. The players spoke to the board during the week. Caroline Wilson then followed that statement by saying herself that in her opinion yesterday's performance by the pl

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I'm as shocked by all this as anyone ............ and I don't know the answer ...... but disillusionment with administrators who threaten a coach you respect or operations managers who sack your capta

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Partly answered your own question there. One of the reasons we have less money available for the FD is because it's all being eaten up by Cameron and his staff. It's also obvious that yesterday's l

deeflog Redleg

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Gerard Weatley just said on "After the bounce" that Bailey won't be coaching next week and all 3 have been sacked (Bails CS and CC) According to his source......

WOW!!!!

thats huge if true

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i think it would be led by the the older players, Green, Rivers, Jamar and co regarding the handling of junior last year, and youngsters are just following in the lead of those guys.

thats my guess

I'm guessing that is the case, if it is, then really poor form from the senior boys. Junior was a loyal soldier for us, but it was the right choice to move him on, as was the Bruce call. It seems as if these older guys are content to continue on toiling away in mediocrity for the rest of their careers. I never really believed the whole idea about Melbourne having a losing culture, but the current state of affairs just goes to show that it was still prevalent in the Daniher era as it is today.

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I'd love to know what Cameron Schwab has done wrong? Since when does a team get flogged and they get rid of the CEO. Bizzare. If they flick him, he'll have the dubious honour of being sacked by the club twice.

I think we have to look at our bargain basement coaching panel in all of this. Josh Mahoney as forward coach (someone who can't teach our forwards the art of pressure, our big men how to play key position football and most importantly score!), David Loates as ruck coach for heaven's sake - what could he possibly teach our big men? Only last year did they bring Scott West on full-time. He was a part-time midfield coach...

In this age of specialist coaching appointments to help develop promising young lists, we're clearly not giving ourselves the best chance of success.

It's time to shake things up.

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I'd love to know what Cameron Schwab has done wrong? .....

I think we have to look at our bargain basement coaching panel in all of this.

Partly answered your own question there.

One of the reasons we have less money available for the FD is because it's all being eaten up by Cameron and his staff.

It's also obvious that yesterday's loss has really brought to a head various rumblings regarding rifts and factions that have been going on for at least most of the season, even back to last year. It's not just about one very bad performance. Just go back to the Moloney incident ... why was Schwab (admin) involved in that press conference?? Not to mention that old enigma ... why did Scully leave the China trip??

Finally, having had on more than one occasion the unfortunate opportunity to experience how the "admin" part of an organisation can really mess up the "making/doing/practising" part of an organisation, I can well understand why the CEO would be one of the first to go at a time like this.

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Partly answered your own question there.

One of the reasons we have less money available for the FD is because it's all being eaten up by Cameron and his staff.

It's also obvious that yesterday's loss has really brought to a head various rumblings regarding rifts and factions that have been going on for at least most of the season, even back to last year. It's not just about one very bad performance. Just go back to the Moloney incident ... why was Schwab (admin) involved in that press conference?? Not to mention that old enigma ... why did Scully leave the China trip??

Finally, having had on more than one occasion the unfortunate opportunity to experience how the "admin" part of an organisation can really mess up the "making/doing/practising" part of an organisation, I can well understand why the CEO would be one of the first to go at a time like this.

Good points Bing. Like all of us, I'm watching with interest. I must admit, I didn't see the admin shake-up coming. Coaching, yes, but not the admin. Scary where this could leave us.

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Finally, having had on more than one occasion the unfortunate opportunity to experience how the "admin" part of an organisation can really mess up the "making/doing/practising" part of an organisation, I can well understand why the CEO would be one of the first to go at a time like this.

This. If it's true that the footy dept budget is suffering because of admin / management excesses, then "off with his (CS) head".

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There's a lot of unfounded rumour and innuendo.

Caro would like to present an image of having her finger on the pulse, but really she's just good at covering up the fact she is speculating.

Schwab has now had his contract extended til Oct 31st 2012.

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Schwabs not going nowhere, if Bailey hadnt, he wouldve. Therefore the board saw value in keeping Schwab over Bailey and that to me has been the right call. His record is impeccable and unfortunate for him, Bailey's isnt.

Curly's done us well to a point but now its gotta go the next level. Contract expiry was right on track as far as im concerned. No extensive payouts, no crying poor, foul, etc, etc.

As much as why the board couldnt have hung out for another 5 weeks is beyond me or any of us, unless you thought the sacking was justified.

To most honest sensible people, it rips hearts out when something like this happens and in the way it does because its real, it can happen to any of us in careers, etc. But reality stings like a [censored] and now its time to move on and recompose. Get a handle on it... to those extremists who say our Club wont recover and is gone and stands for nothing, to those that think that, some advise- its not snowing this week, so get to the game and enjoy the ride of the future.

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I'd love to know what Cameron Schwab has done wrong? Since when does a team get flogged and they get rid of the CEO. Bizzare. If they flick him, he'll have the dubious honour of being sacked by the club twice.

Many years ago when he was CEO with West Coast, Brian Cook said there should be a clear 'separation of powers' between the different arms of the football club. It appears that Schwab crossed that line at various times and the players and others have taken exception.

There will have to be a lot of fence mending at the club if he continues as CEO.

Just listening to Dean Bailey's press conference. He is a much better media performer than four years ago. Said he was glad the club took the direction they did (blooding new players) even if it cost him his job. He's a nice bloke. He just couldn't get the players to hit targets and execute his game plan.

It certainly would have been better if we'd handled his removal with the same smoothness that Adelaide did with Craig, but I suspect that Craig offered his resignation and Bailey thought he still had something to offer. It makes a big difference.

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Interesting when Bailey was asked about what support he had from CEO & administration he referred back to feeling he had total support from players and coaches.

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